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Edit request

In the Resignation controversy section, the article states: "The Nation editor Katrina vanden Heuvel, editor and publisher of The Nation, wrote:..." Can someone remove the redundant information? 204.111.20.10 (talk) 21:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. It looks as though that part was removed a little while ago. 204.111.20.10 (talk) 21:52, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah McClendon was actually the first woman elected to high office in the National Press Club. She served a four month unexpired term as Vice President from in 1974. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.114.242.226 (talk) 16:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

edit request

The first sentence in the 2010 speech on Arab Americans section states: "On December 2, 2010, shortly before a speech for the eighth annual "Images and Perceptions of Arab Americans" conference at the Byblos Banquet Center on Chase,..."

Please change to one of the following:

  • "On December 2, 2010, shortly before a speech for the eighth annual "Images and Perceptions of Arab Americans" conference at the Byblos Banquet Center in Dearborn, Michigan,..."
  • "On December 2, 2010, shortly before a speech for the eighth annual "Images and Perceptions of Arab Americans" conference in Dearborn, Michigan,..."

Apparently Byblos Banquet Center is located on Chase Road and the editor who added that sentence assumed we'd all know what "on Chase" means. 204.111.20.10 (talk) 22:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, can someone please add Category:Journalists from Washington, D.C.? Thanks. 204.111.20.10 (talk) 23:10, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done both. Thank you. Went with second option on the first one. Less wordy. — Wyliepedia 06:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. 204.111.20.10 (talk) 09:38, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tripoli was always in Lebanon not in Syria.

Sorry, but Tripoli, her place of birth, is in Lebanon and never been in Syria — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.206.42.242 (talk) 00:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Categories

Do others think that the category Anti-Zionism should be added to this bio? I have removed it for now. It is also linked in the see also section. I usually work on trimming the See also section of entries repeated in the body or others that only seem remotely related. I know there was a brouhaha over comments the subject made, but would that qualify for these entries inclusion? Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 11:05, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It really is quite sourceable. The "brouhaha" was enough to kill her career, and still ongoing. [1] Her anti-Zionism seems very vehement. To not include the category smells on lack of neutrality if not whitewashing. --Wlmg (talk) 11:48, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
e/c, I indented your comment, hopefully you don't mind. Can you just post the source(s) here so we can review them here? I see you did, thank you. Also, please assume good faith, this is not "whitewashing" or trying to to be POV. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 11:53, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Any such categories (anti-catholicism, anti-semiticism, etc) should not be added to bios per long-standing consensus at CFD. See the header at Category:Antisemitism for example, which states "This category is for issues relating to antisemitism. It must not include articles about individuals, groups or media that are allegedly antisemitic." . Discussion of her views can be held in the article, but not as a category. otherwise, Tutu and Mel Gibson would be added to Category:Antisemitism (as there are sources which accuse them of this), and its just downhill from there, and we start classifying sexists, and homophobes, and racists, etc. If you want to change this consensus, I'd suggest a community-wide RFC - I don't think this talk page is the place however.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 12:00, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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please recall bLP applies to those recently passed, this no need to engage in name calling.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Zionism is not comparable to anti-catholicism or other discriminatory beliefs because Zionism is a political belief that itself hinges on discriminatory beliefs. Helen Thomas was adamantly Anti-Zionist and for Wikipedia to reflect otherwise is a shame. 75.98.19.140 (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

huh? It isn't comparable to other discriminatory beliefs because it is based on a belief that hinges on discriminatory beliefs?? My head is going to explode. I would go read the wiki article on anti Zionism, but I have a feeling that won't help :) --Malerooster (talk) 19:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Zionism is the discriminatory belief that there should be a Jewish only state. Therefor Anti-Zionisism is an Anti-Discriminatory belief. Unfortunately, the JIDF will likely not permit her Bio to accurately reflect her Anti-Israel stance, which is a damn shame. Xicillin (talk) 16:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should take this over to the category page for anti-zionism. There may be value in adding this category to certain pages, even if we don't add anti-semite categories to bios.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 14:43, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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