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== Geonotice ==

I'll try and get this up later today. There's no coordinates, but Gabriel's suggested another one at Boston with "approximately 100 mile radius" - are you happy for me to use the same area? [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|talk]]) 10:51, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

:Oops, I messed up the formatting when I was creating it! I had some coordinates, but it looks like I somehow left those out. But yes, Gabriel's coordinates should work just as well. Thanks! <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 13:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

:It seems they were there but were commented out! They do look very much smaller than Gabriel's, though - I've used your original ones, but if you think the others are preferable it should be easy enough to switch. [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|talk]]) 22:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

::By the way, we've a request up for another WLL event in Cambridge MA - I've left a note asking if it might be worth merging them. Thoughts appreciated. [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|talk]]) 10:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

:::Sure, might as well switch to Gabriel's coordinates. I wasn't sure how small to go, so I erred on the smaller side. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 14:00, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

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== C++ ==

Please don't imply that there are no sources for C++ Exception Handling provided on this page already. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExcessPhase|ExcessPhase]] ([[User talk:ExcessPhase|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExcessPhase|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:I have moved this message here, as you mistakenly edited my user page with it. Please be sure you're editing user ''talk'' pages and not user pages in the future.

:The text that you have added is quite opinionated. For example, "C++ without Exception Handling is kind of useless" is an opinion, not a generally-accepted fact. There are derivatives of C++ (such as [[Embedded C++]]) that exclude exceptions, and they are not "kind of useless". The text you've added appears to be entirely [[WP:OR|original research]], and without '''specific''' sources to back it up, will be removed. You cannot claim that the information you are adding is cited somewhere in the 46 references on that page; that is much too vague.

:I would furthermore suggest that you stop reverting back to your content without changing it. This is [[WP:EW|edit warring]] and can result in a block from editing. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 18:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

"edit waring" -- I agree! But who are you to tell me that this is just a personal POV? I think my "opinion" about C++ is king of relevant
having used Exception Handling for more than 16 years. That the wikipedia page does not contain a mentioning of C++ exception Handling until now is kind of embarassing. Years ago I added the section regarding Exception and constructors in the C++ page of wikibooks.
BTW -- how to I add a reference to the C++ page regarding phobia?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExcessPhase|ExcessPhase]] ([[User talk:ExcessPhase|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExcessPhase|contribs]]) 18:31, 7 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

"kind of useless" -- this assumes that a programmer cares about things which may go wrong -- many don't. I explained the reason behind this "opinion". Many people with a different opinion are the people which don't care about a certain level of quality. I know that there are "C++" implementations without C++ Exception Handling. Somewhere I said: "I would refuse writing a complex application for such platforms in the same way that I would refuse writing a complex application in assembler code."  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExcessPhase|ExcessPhase]] ([[User talk:ExcessPhase|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExcessPhase|contribs]]) 18:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

"kind of useless" -- this also assumes that we are talking about code, for which things may go wrong. So if your code is just a CPU heater, there is no need for C++ Exception Handling. But as soon as you're calling fallible calls like allocating memory or open files or writing files or tcp socket this does apply.   <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExcessPhase|ExcessPhase]] ([[User talk:ExcessPhase|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExcessPhase|contribs]]) 18:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::Relevant or not, your opinion is still uncited opinion. Wikipedia has a policy against inclusion of [[WP:OR|original research]] — please read that page, as it appears you have not. As for learning out to add a reference, [[Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners]] is a good guide. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 18:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

== name calling on swarm talk page ==

* The person who removed the link did so just because I provided the link.
* The person who removed the link did so without knowledge of the contents of the link or the relevance of the link.
* I did talk with the author of the page before about the relevance of the link.
* The link was relevant to the page
* Thus removing the link was an act of sabotage against me personally not the removal of spam or similar
* How would you call such a person?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExcessPhase|ExcessPhase]] ([[User talk:ExcessPhase|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExcessPhase|contribs]]) 19:03, 7 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:* Have they told you this? I would have also removed the link, simply because of its irrelevance to the page.
:* Have they told you this as well? It's hard for me to believe that this editor removed the link without clicking on it.
:* Wikipedia pages do not have a single author. See [[WP:OWN]].
:* No, it was not. There are plenty of media files on that page that offer the same information as your screensaver that do not require the download of possibly damaging files.
:* Again, you are inferring this without [[WP:AGF|assuming good faith]].
:* I would not resort to name-calling, as it is damaging to the Wikipedia project as a whole. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:08, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

== A bowl of strawberries for you! ==

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:Damn, that's a nice combination of a nickname and a user photo, ahahahahah. I like that. [[User:Нирваньчик|~<font color="green">Nirvanchik</font>~]] <sup>[[User talk:Нирваньчик|⊤άλҟ]]</sup> 12:24, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you :) <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 17:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I am not testing wikilove and also send you bowls of virtual fruit.  But then I got virtually hungry... and ate it.    How was your library workshop?  <span style="padding:2px;background-color:white;color:#666;">&ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Sj|SJ]][[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">&nbsp;+</font>]]</span> 00:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
:It went well! We didn't do much editing of the articles like we'd planned, but we spoke with quite a few people (mostly elementary-school aged children) about Wikipedia. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 00:31, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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==Boise State Football Page==

I received this message from you "I noticed that you recently removed some content from Boise State Broncos football without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, – GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)"

I removed the "1 finalist" from the column on "heisman winners" for two reasons.  1 because it is atypical for football pages to list their finalists under winners, and it seems to me that the standard is to list the number of winners.  2 because a mere heisman finalist by definition is not a heisman winner.  It is a 2nd through 5th place finish.  It makes as much sense to list finalists under a category for winners as it does to list 3rd place finishes in a category labelled "conference titles".  Sorry for not putting any explanation next to my edit when I performed it, but ^^this was my reasoning for making the edit.  Thanks. ([[User:Veritas KGB|Veritas KGB]] ([[User talk:Veritas KGB|talk]]) 13:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC))

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== [[Hayden kappen]] ==

Please be aware that this nonsense page has already been deleted before - consider preventing future creation. [[User:הסרפד|<span style="font-size:125%; font-family:David, 'Times New Roman'" dir="rtl">הסרפד</span>]] ([[User talk:הסרפד|Hasirpad]]) [formerly Ratz...bo] 19:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
:Ah, so it has. I've salted the page for two weeks—that should be sufficient, I think. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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== Henry Ian Cusick ==

This isn't a serious issue, obviously, but was there a reason Henry Ian Cusick wanted that image used? It's just because I, personally, think the old image was much better. I'm not trying to fight it, or whatever, I was just wondering. [[User:Gran2|Gran]]<sup>[[User talk:Gran2|2]]</sup> 11:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
:I'm not sure why he prefers that photo, but I'd be inclined to stick with it as per his preference. It's not a ''bad'' photo for illustrating the article, and I'd guess it's more recent. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:16, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
::Okay, no problem, thanks. [[User:Gran2|Gran]]<sup>[[User talk:Gran2|2]]</sup> 13:06, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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'''Progress report:''' We achieved our primary goal of clearing November and December 2011 from the backlog. For the first time since the drives began, the backlog consists only of articles tagged in the current year. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2690 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 56 requests outstanding before November 2012 as well as eight of those made in November.

'''Copy Edit of the Month''': Voting is now over for the October 2012 competition, and [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Copy Edit of the Month/October 2012|prizes]] have been issued. The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Copy Edit of the Month/November 2012|November 2012 contest]] is closed for submissions and open for voting. The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Copy Edit of the Month/December 2012|December 2012 contest]] is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote.

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== [[KUBA Ka]] ==

17:34, 6 December 2012 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Talk:KUBA Ka ‎ (GorillaWarfare moved page Talk:Kuba Ka to Talk:KUBA Ka over redirect: Format title as the artist uses it) (top) 

The artist does not "use it". It is the way how their PR staff writes some names:
<blockquote>
Truly a life force with a “TWISTER” like dynamism, KUBA creates all-new entertainment formats to wow audiences. For more than a decade, KUBA has captivated the imagination of millions in Europe, on stage, radio, and television. He became the first artist after Michael Jackson to be represented by legendary entertainment manager – Frank Dileo.
 
DAILY VARIETY wrote: “Dileo, who once managed the late Michael Jackson, has hitched his wagon to Polish mega-watt performer KUBA Ka, who plans to establish a beachhead in the U.S.” Dileo mentioned during the interview for VARIETY: “I am delighted to start an association with KUBA and his production company.” Frank Dileo said in his press statement about KUBA: “He’s an incredibly unique and versatile performer with an imaginative dynamic vision for his far-reaching projects. We think his one-of-a-kind talent will translate extraordinarily with U.S. and international audiences.”

Steve SILK Hurley, who recorded with KUBA a hot dance song called “PHYSICAL ATTRACTION”, and did club mix of “IN THE STREETS”.

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Also, regardless how artist writes it, in his PR, obviously newspapers don't think so, an wikipedia has its own rules about exsessive capitalization in titles, and there was an extensive discussion about this. (You may want to know that many companies just love to shout their names in all caps.) 

Anyway, after an attempt to improve the article I decided it is AfD-worthy, and further discussion about atricle title is postponed until the outcome. [[User:Staszek Lem|Staszek Lem]] ([[User talk:Staszek Lem|talk]]) 19:02, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
:The artist uses this capitalization on [http://kuba-ka.com/ his website], [https://twitter.com/Kuba_Ka Twitter], etc. That said, I too think it's wise to postpone further discussion until after the AfD runs its course. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, my quote is from his website, where capitalization is ...er... liberal. Twitter quote:"Entertainer, called the STAGE ANIMAL". ORLY? [[User:Staszek Lem|Staszek Lem]] ([[User talk:Staszek Lem|talk]]) 19:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

===Notability of KUBA Ka===
I've added more references of KUBA Ka. Do I need to add more? Please, help. TanweerIKhan 07:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nickaang|Nickaang]] ([[User talk:Nickaang|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nickaang|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I'd suggest asking this at the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KUBA Ka|deletion debate]]. I am not the person who nominated it for deletion, nor can I alone decide whether the article is kept or deleted. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 07:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! NickAang 18:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

==The notoriuos wiki troll ( Iaaasi) returned==

Hello!

The well known chauvinist romanian wiki-troll User:Iaaasi returned (with a new croatian fake identity) He is now active alias user: Irji2012
He is often active in Hungarian-related aricles, he enjoy edit-warring deleting good sources and sentences from important articles, and he like to break the rules of wiki even 3 revert rule.
Can you arrange about this notorious wiki-troll?
Thank you!
Peter.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.0.49.97|84.0.49.97]] ([[User talk:84.0.49.97|talk]]) 10:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== CityNightLine ==

I'm so sorry, I had a bad experience on a train last week and just felt so angry.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.28.126.134|82.28.126.134]] ([[User talk:82.28.126.134|talk]]) 11:49, 9 December 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I would suggest taking that up with them directly, not involving Wikipedia in the issue. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

== Edit vandalism by user 108.179.25.130 ==

Hi, I'm not sure if this is where I should be bringing this up, so, I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to be doing this...  But the user with the IP address of [[User talk:108.179.25.130|108.179.25.130]] has been vandalizing the [[List of Heisman Trophy winners]] Wikipedia page, similar to the vandalizing that he did to [[T. Y. Hilton]]'s page earlier and that he did today (Dec. 10th).  Is there anything else that can be done to protect against more of his vandalizing?  Thanks, and sorry for any bothering.... [[Special:Contributions/174.56.61.210|174.56.61.210]] ([[User talk:174.56.61.210|talk]]) 21:46, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
:This user appears to have stopped, so I'm not going to block him. That said, in the future, these sorts of things should be reported to [[WP:AIV]]. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 23:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

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== GOCE mid-December newsletter ==

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The '''[[WP:GOCE|Guild of Copy Editors]]''' invites you to participate in its events:
*The '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Copy Edit of the Month/December 2012|December 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest]]''' is currently in the submissions stage.  Submit your best December copy edit there before the end of the month.  Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC).
*Voting is in progress for the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Copy Edit of the Month/November 2012|November 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest]]'''. Everyone is welcome to vote, whether they have entered the contest or not.
*From Sunday 16 December to Saturday 22 December, we are holding a '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/December 2012|Project Blitz]]''', in which we will copy edit articles tagged with {{tl|copyedit}} from January 2012. The blitz works much like our bimonthly drives, but a bit simpler. Everyone is welcome to take part, and barnstars will be awarded.
*'''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/January 2013|January 2013 Backlog elimination drive]]''' is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on January 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in January, February, and March 2012 and complete all requests placed before the end of 2012. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in January, February, and March 2012", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: [[User:Stfg|Stfg]], [[User:Allens|Allens]], and [[User:Torchiest|Torchiest]].
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== 'Tis that season again... ==

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:Merry Christmas to you too, Eddie! Hope it was lovely :) <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:50, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

== Merry Christmas! ==

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''[[User:TheGeneralUser|<font color="Fuchsia">TheGeneralUser</font>]] [[User talk:TheGeneralUser|<font color="Fuchsia">(talk)</font>]]'' is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins|Merry]] [[Christmas]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!   <br /> 

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Hello GorillaWarfare! Wishing you a very Happy Merry Christmas :) ''[[User:TheGeneralUser|<font color="Fuchsia">TheGeneralUser</font>]] [[User talk:TheGeneralUser|<font color="Fuchsia">(talk)</font>]]'' 11:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:Merry Christmas, TheGeneralUser! <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:50, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

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== GOCE 2012 Annual Report ==

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== ''The Signpost'': 31 December 2012 ==

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== Belated Happy New Year with a Toast! ==

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Here's a [[:Toast (honor)|toast]] to the [[wikt:host#Etymology 2|host]]<br />
Of those who edit [[:MediaWiki|wiki]] near and far,<br />
To a friend we send a message, "keep the data [[:WP:V|up to par]]".<br />
We drink to those who [[:WP:WBE|wrote a lot of prose]],<br />
And then they [[:WP:UTM|whacked]] a vandal several dozen blows.<br />
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~'''''[[User:TheGeneralUser|<font color="DeepPink">TheGeneralUser</font>]] [[User talk:TheGeneralUser|<font color="DeepPink">(talk)</font>]]''''' — is wishing you a Happy New Year! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!   <br /> 

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A Very Happy (belated) New Year to you GorillaWarfare! Enjoy the Whisky {{Smiley|shade}} ~'''''[[User:TheGeneralUser|<font color="DeepPink">TheGeneralUser</font>]] [[User talk:TheGeneralUser|<font color="DeepPink">(talk)</font>]]''''' 23:29, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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== Help Project newsletter : Issue 5 ==

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== Wikipedia Ambassadors update ==

Hi! You're getting this message because you are or have been a Wikipedia Ambassador. A new term is beginning for the United States and Canada Education Programs, and I wanted to give you an update on some important new information if you're interested in continuing your work this term as a Wikipedia Ambassador. 

You may have heard a reference to a transition the education program is going through. This is the last term that the Wikimedia Foundation will directly run the U.S. and Canada programs; beginning in June, a proposed thematic organization is likely to take over organizing the program. You can [[Wikipedia:Education_Working_Group/Proposal|read more about the proposal here]].

Another major change in the program will take effect immediately. Beginning this term, a new MediaWiki education extension will replace all course pages and Ambassador lists. (See [[Wikipedia:Course pages]] and [[Help:Education Program extension]] for more details.) Included in the extension are ''online volunteer'' and ''campus volunteer'' user rights, which let you create and edit course pages and sign up as an ambassador for a particular course.

'''''If you would like to continue serving as a Wikipedia Ambassador — even if you do not support a class this term — you must create an ambassador profile.''''' If you're no longer interested in being a Wikipedia Ambassador, you don't need to do anything.

;Please do these steps as soon as possible
First, you need the relevant user rights for Online and/or Campus Ambassadors. (If you are an admin, you can [[Special:UserRights|grant the rights yourself]], for you as well as other ambassadors.) Just [[Wikipedia talk:Ambassadors/Become an ambassador|post your rights request here]], and we'll get you set up as quickly as possible.

Once you've got the ambassador rights, please set up at a Campus and/or Online Ambassador profile. You can do so at:
*[[Special:CampusAmbassadorProfile]]
*[[Special:OnlineAmbassadorProfile]]

Going forward, the lists of Ambassadors at [[Special:CampusAmbassadors]] and [[Special:OnlineAmbassadors]] will be the official roster of who is an active Ambassador. If you would like to be an Ambassador but not ready to serve this term, you can un-check the option in your profile to publicly list it (which will remove your profile from the list).

After that, you can sign on to support courses. The list of courses will be at [[Special:Courses]]. (By default, this lists "Current" courses, but you can change the Status filter to "Planned" to see courses for this term that haven't reached their listed start date yet.)

As this is the first term we have used the extension, we know there will be some bugs, and we know the feature set is not as rich as it could be. (A big wave of improvements is already in the pipeline. And if you know MediaWiki and could help with code review, we'd love to have your help!) Please reach out to [[User_talk:Sage_Ross_(WMF)|me (Sage Ross)]] with any complaints, bug reports, and feature suggestions. The basic features of the extension are documented at [[Wikipedia:Course pages]], and you can see a tutorial for setting up and using them [[Wikipedia:Training/For educators/Setting up your course|here]].

;Communication and keeping up to date
In the past, the Education Program has had a pretty fragmented set of communication channels. We're trying to fix that. These are the recommended places to discuss and stay up-to-date on the education program:
# [[WP:ENB|The education noticeboard]] has become the main on-wiki location for discussion of the Education Program. You can post there about broad education program issues as well as issues with individual courses.
# [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassador-announce-l The Ambassadors Announce email list] is a very low-traffic announcements list of important information all Ambassadors need to be aware of. We encourage all Ambassadors (and other interested Wikipedians) to subscribe to the list; follow the instructions on the link to add your email address.
# If you use IRC regularly, or need to try to reach someone immediately, the {{freenode|wikipedia-en-ambassadors}} IRC channel is the place to find me and fellow Ambassadors.

;Ambassador training and resources
We now have an online [[Wikipedia:Training/For Ambassadors|training for Ambassadors]], which is intended to be both an orientation about the Wikipedia Ambassador role for newcomers and the manual for how to do the role. (There are parallel trainings [[Wikipedia:Training/For students|for students]] and [[Wikipedia:Training/For educators|for educators]] as well.)

Please go through the training if you feel like you need a refresher on how a typical class is supposed to go and where the Ambassadors fit in, or if you want to review and help improve it. If there's something you'd like to see added, or other suggestions you have for it, feel free to edit the training and/or leave feedback. A [[Wikipedia:Training/For educators/Setting up your course|primer on setting up and using course pages]] is included in the educators' training.

The [[Wikipedia:Training/For Ambassadors/Resources|Resources page]] of the training is the main place for Ambassador-related resources. If there's something you think is important as a resource that's not on there, please add it.

Finally, whether or not you work with any classes this term, I encourage you to post entries to the [[Wikipedia:Ambassadors/Courses/Trophy case|Trophy Case]] whenever you see excellent work from students or if you have great examples from past semesters. And, as always, let students (and other editors!) know when they do things well; a little WikiLove goes a long way!

--[[User:Sage Ross (WMF)|Sage Ross (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sage Ross (WMF)|talk]]) 20:47, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 14 January 2013 ==

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== GOCE mid-drive newsletter, January 2013 ==

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== Some bubble tea for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Enjoy. =) [[User:Kurtis|Kurtis]] [[User talk:Kurtis|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:17, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
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== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Dear GorillaWarfare,

Thank you so much for being such a great advisor last year! I really enjoyed working with you on our editor engagement projects and I hope we'll get a chance to continue this relationship in coming years. Your guidance and insights mean a lot to me. :)

If you would like to keep in touch more often, I invite you to join our editor engagement mailing list, where we discuss initiatives that support new users and experienced editors on Wikipedia. We recently opened this list to the public, so we could have more frequent conversations with valued community members like you. To join us, you are very welcome to [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee sign up here].

And if you haven't already, I also encourage you to contribute to the current discussion on whether or not to deploy Article Feedback v5 widely on the English Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Article_feedback|see RfC]]). Because of your familiarity with this tool, you are in a unique position to present an informed perspective on its potential benefits. Note that we are adding a few final features recommended by the community, such as simpler moderation tools and better filters ([http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/12/20/article-feedback-new-research-and-next-steps/ see project update]).  

Thanks again for being such a wonderful advisor -- I look forward to more collaborations with you, to help make Wikipedia better for all of us!

Regards as ever,  [[User:Fabrice Florin (WMF)|Fabrice Florin (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Fabrice Florin (WMF)|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
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== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Everyone has just one chance at posting their first article on Wikipedia. You were so kind to review and post my very first article. I am very excited to be part of this organization! Thank you. [[User:Gotanero|Gotanero]] ([[User talk:Gotanero|talk]]) 04:38, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
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:Thank you, and thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia! <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 14:17, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

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== Reply to your Message ==
Hi I made an incorrect edit on Redfoo, and you correctly took it out, though there are numerous other inaccuracies on the page. I am in no way related to that guy, but just a college student trying to figure out how you guys pick up such spams. Could you tell me how you got notified of the bad edit I made? 

- Thanks  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.99.110.251|174.99.110.251]] ([[User talk:174.99.110.251|talk]]) 05:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== AfC ==
This article was based on first hand experience and due to sensitivities you may sources that know what I know  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.166.152.98|98.166.152.98]] ([[User talk:98.166.152.98|talk]]) 15:22, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Because you have not signed in and you've not edited the article to which you're referring with this account, I have no idea which article you're talking about. If you'd be a little more specific, I could discuss this with you in more detail. That said, Wikipedia cannot accept articles that are based on firsthand experience, as that is considered to be [[WP:OR|original research]]. All information in Wikipedia articles must be [[WP:V|verifiable]] in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 15:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

== Request for guidance. ==
Hi Gorillawarfare. You gave me some super help on 30 May 2013. I hope I could ask you another question: now on my edit page I find the intimidating notice: 

'WARNING: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Action on Addiction is 13,716 bytes. If it is not a redirect with only 1 edit in its edit history, this may be a "copy and paste" move. To avoid losing the edit history, administrators should consider merging the history of the AfC draft into this article. Non-administrators should consider placing <nowiki>{{histmerge|Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Action on Addiction}}</nowiki> at the top of this article before removing this AFC submission template.'

What should I do? I don't actually understand the directions (I realise they are probably obvious, but I don't know how to merge the history of the AfC draft into this article'...) Will my article be deleted? Is it okay to just leave it as it is? 

I will try to improve the detail in the article (to raise it from C-class). Just need time to learn how...
If there is a better place to ask this question, pls let me know. I did hope for an answer from you though.

Thanks in advance and thank you for the Barnstar!!

User: koji at 47koji01

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Hello, Ktgrell here, this is my first attempt a submitting something to Wikipedia<ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ktgrell/Leaving_Venus}}</ref> . May I ask for guidance? What is the specific thing (or things) that are preventing my submission from being accepted?
Thank you for your help!

[[User:Ktgrell|Ktgrell]] ([[User talk:Ktgrell|talk]]) 20:19, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

:The main issue with the article is with the citations. In order to demonstrate that the band is notable, you need to show that it has significant coverage in reliable sources. "[[WP:SIGCOV|Significant coverage]]" in this sense means more than just a trivial mention; inclusion in a list of songs on a playlist is trivial coverage, whereas a full writeup is not. "[[WP:RS|Reliable sources]]" can be a little bit more difficult to interpret when the subject is a band, as there are multitudes of blogs and personal websites out there, some of which are reliable, some of which are not. I typically try to defer to [[WP:USERGENERATED]], which clarifies a bit. 

:To break down the sources that you've provided:
:* Five sources appear to be from relatively small newspapers, the ''Hickory Daily Record'' and the ''Addison Post''. Newspapers are good sources, but the information you've provided about the coverage is lacking. From the citations, we only know the name of the paper and the date of publication. There is no link provided; links are ideal if the newspaper publishes material online, but they're not necessary. There is also no title provided, which is much more of a problem; even if someone had access to the papers, they could not verify the information. From what you've provided here, there's no way of knowing if the mention of the band was substantial, trivial, or even existent at all.
:* Four blog sources. Like I said, establishing the usefulness of a blog in determining notability is difficult. Out of the four, I would say that the [http://www.cc2konline.com/component/content/article/68-music-current-reviews/2863-album-review-leaving-venus-sick-of-it-all-ep CC2K source] is probably strongest, followed by [http://www.froglix.com/about Froglix], though they're both pretty small sources. I would not consider the other two to be helpful towards establishing notability. 
:* One extremely unreliable source. With user-submitted content, [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Leaving%20Venus Urban Dictionary] should really never be cited. I'd strongly suggest removing this altogether.
:* Three trivial mentions ([http://www.1065.com/pages/divakar.html?article=10188608], [http://lesracquet.com/], and [http://thejustinwayneshow.com/2012/09/jw-show-171-chris-takes-over-and-september-discovery-2-preview/]). Two of these are mentions of songs in playlists, the third is a vague link to website which, when searched, turns up a mention or two of Leaving Venus joining them.

:In order for the article to meet the notability guidelines, you'll either need to demonstrate that it meets the specific [[WP:NMUSIC|notability guidelines for music]], or that it meets the [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]]. You'll need a good number of additional, strong sources to do so.

:I should mention that I've noticed your username is somewhat similar to the surname of one of the band members, which makes me wonder if you have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. Though this does not prohibit you from writing the article, it is ''strongly'' suggested that people with conflicts of interest do not write about the subjects with which they're affiliated. I hope this was helpful. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 22:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


Dear [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] 

Thank you for your thoughtful review and comments.  As you know, I've made some significant edits to the page based on your feedback and resubmitted it to be rejected a second time.  It sounds as though the second rejection was exclusively for a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]].  To address it, please let me say this; my surname does match the surname of one of the band members but I have no relationship to the other two fellows.  This is something I cannot change.  Would this page be more acceptable if one the band's biggest fans submitted the page instead of me?

Once again, I thank you for your feedback!

Best regards,

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== Fleksy ==

Hi there, just wanted to thank you for going over my article for Fleksy. You are welcome to improve it, and please let me know if you have any suggestions. I will be adding more citations to make things clearer on some claims :) [[User:Nautilus1284|Nautilus1284]] ([[User talk:Nautilus1284|talk]]) 22:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
:You're welcome! Thank you for writing the article. One suggestion I do have is try to fix the orphan issue; if there are any articles that mention/should mention Fleksy, add the link! That said, don't feel the need to artificially introduce a link into an article if it's only tangentially related. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 23:20, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

== Wikipedia entry Professor Sir Andy Haines ==

Hi

Please can you give some advice as to the type of reliable sources I could use. Where available I have referred to published peer reviewed papers but am not sure what else I should be using.

Thank you!
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== ''The Tea Leaf'' - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap) ==

[[File:TH_Badge_I+.png|thumb|140px|right|A celebratory cupcake from the Teahouse [[Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge#TH-first|''Birthday Badge'']]]]

It's been a full year since the Teahouse opened, and as we're reflecting on what's been accomplished, we wanted to celebrate with you. 

'''Teahouse guests and hosts''' are [http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/02/27/wikipedia-teahouse-celebrates-its-first-birthday sharing their stories in a new blog post] about the project.

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For actually responding to a request for help on IRC (you were the 11th admin I asked and the only to respond) and for quickly helping out with a vandalism situation, I hereby award you this barnstar.  You are a credit to the adminship. :) <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 17:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)</small>
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== Empathy in personality disorders ==
Hi. 
It's my first time submitting an edited wikipedia article and I would like your feedback. I wrote about empathy in personality disorders, more specifically borderline personality disorder and psychopathic disorder. Can you read my sandbox or should I copy paste my edits in your talk page? Thanks!
[[User:Rudyzaltzman.t|Rudyzaltzman.t]] ([[User talk:Rudyzaltzman.t|talk]]) 20:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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== [[User:Patriotcanon]] ==

Where was this supposed legal threat made? I'm confused. --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 18:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
:The issue arose at [[Wikipedia:Help desk#Carspear]], ''q.v.'' --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 18:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
::I have replied there, to try to keep the discussion in one place. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 18:37, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

== Moore tornado ==

There are many other sources that clearly state that there were no fatalities. I am currently on a mobile device so that was why I was unable to provide any. Sharkguy05 is fixing to get himself blocked. He sent me a hateful message that failed both [[WP:AGF]] and [[WP:NPA]]. Not to mention going over the [[WP:3RR]] many times. [[User:United States Man|United States Man]] ([[User talk:United States Man|talk]]) 00:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I've been discussing this on IRC and I agree that the majority of sources firmly state there were no fatalities. I agree that the one source, though it is NBC, does not trump the many others contradicting it. I'll keep an eye on Sharkguy for a bit. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 00:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::[http://washingtonpost.com/national/graduates-in-oklahoma-town-where-24-died-vow-to-stay-despite-tornado-legacy/2013/05/25/a00471f8-c560-11e2-9642-a56177f1cdf7_story.html This] (from the evening of May 25) specifically says there were no fatalities. I have also seen various sources reporting that 10 children were killed (7 at Plaza Towers, 2-below school age-at home, and 1-below school age-at 7-11). If that doesn't wrap this up, I don't know what does. [[User:United States Man|United States Man]] ([[User talk:United States Man|talk]]) 00:47, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Even as an administrator, you have not only displayed a distinct sense of professionalism in your edits, but a true heart of community service. :) [[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 18:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you :) <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 18:21, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

== Hello fellow Google Summer of Code participant! ==

Hello,

I saw your application for Google Summer of Code; just wanted to say hi as a fellow participant and Wikipedian, although my project isn't for Wikimedia.

Great work on the Pentagon Papers on Wikisource by the way! I think it's an incredibly important project. I hope to help with transcription in the future. [[User:InverseHypercube|<font color="blue" size="2px">Inverse</font><font color="#6495ED" size="2px">Hypercube</font>]] <small>([[User talk:InverseHypercube|talk]])</small> 18:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
:Hello! Your project looks very interesting! Definitely a little more academic than mine, though :) Thanks for offering to help with the Pentagon Papers! There's [[s:en:Talk:United States – Vietnam Relations, 1945–1967: A Study Prepared by the Department of Defense/Progress|a long way to go]], so any help is much appreciated. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 22:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
::Great! I'll work on it when I have time, though I'm unfamiliar with the formatting of the pages. Good luck with your project! [[User:InverseHypercube|<font color="blue" size="2px">Inverse</font><font color="#6495ED" size="2px">Hypercube</font>]] <small>([[User talk:InverseHypercube|talk]])</small> 04:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::I've tried to record some of the specific formatting we've been applying on [[s:en:Talk:United States – Vietnam Relations, 1945–1967: A Study Prepared by the Department of Defense#Notes about how we're proofreading|the talk page]], though it's anything but comprehensive. Do you use [[WP:AWB|AutoWikiBrowser]] at all? If so, I have some find-and-replace regular expressions that I could pass along. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 13:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
::::I don't use AWB, but I do use [[meta:User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Regex menu framework|another regex tool]] so some regular expressions would definitely come in handy! [[User:InverseHypercube|<font color="blue" size="2px">Inverse</font><font color="#6495ED" size="2px">Hypercube</font>]] <small>([[User talk:InverseHypercube|talk]])</small> 21:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::Alrighty, I've added some of my find/replace rules at [[s:en:Talk:United States – Vietnam Relations, 1945–1967: A Study Prepared by the Department of Defense#Substitutions|the talk page]]. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 02:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, that's great! [[User:InverseHypercube|<font color="blue" size="2px">Inverse</font><font color="#6495ED" size="2px">Hypercube</font>]] <small>([[User talk:InverseHypercube|talk]])</small> 03:21, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{wb|Jcc|Addition of sockpuppet templates }} [[User:Jcc|jcc]] ([[User talk:Jcc#top|tea and biscuits]]) 16:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Talkback 2 ==

{{wb|Jcc|Addition of sockpuppet templates }} [[User:Jcc|jcc]] ([[User talk:Jcc#top|tea and biscuits]]) 16:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Block evasion by  ==

I believe that {{user|Ann1231988}} is evading their block with a sock, namely {{user|G61988}} who has just recreated [[Solid Roads Ltd]] previously created as [[Solid Roads]]. - [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 14:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:It would appear that way. Thank you for letting me know; I've blocked the sock as well. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 14:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

== Possible AfD for [[Helene Langevin]] ==

I'm not sure how to do this smoothly, but I suspect this article doesn't establish her notability well enough. -- [[User:BullRangifer|Brangifer]] ([[User talk:BullRangifer|talk]]) 17:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

:There are instructions at [[Wikipedia:AfD#Nominating article(s) for deletion]]. That said, I'm not sure why you think she's non-notable. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 17:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

:: She may be notable, but it needs to be established better using secondary sources. Isn't that the idea? -- [[User:BullRangifer|Brangifer]] ([[User talk:BullRangifer|talk]]) 18:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

:::The sources the article has now are not so lacking as to warrant an AfD, though. It would be better to just improve the sourcing. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 22:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

:::: It has been improved, so no problem anymore. Her methodologies have been seriously criticized, but that content can be added later. -- [[User:BullRangifer|Brangifer]] ([[User talk:BullRangifer|talk]]) 23:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

== GOCE May drive wrap-up ==

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==  Jim Rose Circus ==

i just wanted to thank you..im new heres the response i posted "thank you for input..everything i added is very relevant..i shouldnt be penalized for showing up late to the wiki party...first it was 1992 not the date you cited 2/ my show got more press than the headliners on that tour with the exception of pearl jam...lollapalooza wanted me to get all the press so they could establish a second stage for the future... its well documented that eddie vedder and i became best friends on that tour in several books..i could go on and on but really..the person who i should have civil discourse with is lugnuts and i would like to approach him in the appropriate manner and am not sure how..do i just go to his page and start a new headline using edit? or is there a chat mechanism that im missing?..PLEASE look at any lollapalooza history for 92 and you will see that I'm mentioned more than almost everyone..and thats articles all the way up to current times..l.a times did a cover feature on me..same with usa today..rolling stone called me the must see event and under whats hot proclaimed a jim rose circus tee shirt from lollapalooza"
thanks :)  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markfinkbine|Markfinkbine]] ([[User talk:Markfinkbine|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markfinkbine|contribs]]) 13:20, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I will respond there. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 14:40, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

== The Seventh Seal ==

It's not too hard to back up those statements from literature about Bergman (interviews and research about him, and his own books). ''Bergman on Bergman'' (1970) has a dozen pages of Bergman opening up about the shoot and the circumstances around it to a trio of quick-witted movie critics. I've seen TSS like seven times and have talked to people doing research on it, so Í'm definitely not doing idle gushing about the film. This is rather well-known stuff, though I'd probably source it from texts in Swedish not just in English. Give me a few days though, it's night here. [[Special:Contributions/83.254.151.33|83.254.151.33]] ([[User talk:83.254.151.33|talk]]) 02:28, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

==Mexican Songs==
I have made edits to this article but I don't believe them to be unconstructive or vandalism. The songs selection is from [[Un Canto De México]] a collection of Mexicos most well known songs.[[Special:Contributions/99.176.6.203|99.176.6.203]] ([[User talk:99.176.6.203|talk]])  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 02:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== User:Stoölenmäärchen ==

Hi, Crouon Crouton Croutson is a sock of Technoquat as well. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 13:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
:Oh, fair enough. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 14:07, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

== Sock puppetry ==

Bit rushed, but it looks like you-know-who has got an IP sock; I've readded the AFD and MFD notices and removed the material they added to someone elses's take page. [[User:Pinkbeast|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast|talk]]) 19:54, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

== Bhimsen Joshi ==

That has gone crazy. Either they are using proxy or multiple people are attacking the article. I am not going to revert more. RFPP will see. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 19:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
:It's the same person, obviously, like I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=560342051&oldid=560341898#Bhimsen_Joshi_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Cprotect.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 stated] at [[Wikipedia:Requests for page protection]]. The article needs long-term semi-protection. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 19:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
::My apologies; I'd had to step away for my commute. It appears Bishonen has applied the protection though, so it looks like all is in order. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 20:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

== Thank you for deleting that article however I still have a question ==

Thank you. So you see that answered my question, kind of. I was correct in my assumption that it was promotional and the next time I shall act on it myself. Or at least vote it for speedy deletion or however it is that you do that. But you see I still have a question about what the process is or what I "should" have done which is the whole purpose for asking a "question" in the first place. Do I have the authority to delete an article or am I suppose to put a template on it or what? THanks <span>[[User:Tattoodwaitress|<font color="green">TattØØdẄaitre§</font>]][[User talk:Tattoodwaitress|<font color="#333333"> lĖTŝ tÅLĶ</font>]]</span>'' 03:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
:Hi! I apologize for not explaining it myself; I was expecting PBASH to do so. For articles like that that should be speedily deleted, you should add the appropriate speedy deletion template from [[WP:CSD]]. Keep in mind that an article must meet one of these very specific criteria; otherwise it must be deleted by the [[WP:PROD|PROD]] or [[WP:AfD|AfD]] processes. Only administrators have the technical ability to delete articles, but adding a speedy deletion tag will bring the article to our attention. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 05:19, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you so much for the explanation. PBASH did finally give me an explanation I could understand but not till after I posted here. So all is well. The main thing for me is that my first assumption about the article was correct and I should have more confidence in myself but this is nothing new. THANKS again. <span>[[User:Tattoodwaitress|<font color="green">TattØØdẄaitre§</font>]][[User talk:Tattoodwaitress|<font color="#333333"> lĖTŝ tÅLĶ</font>]]</span>'' 06:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
:::No worries! Sometimes it's hard as a new editor to launch into editing, so if you feel uncomfortable with a decision, feel free to add a {{tl|helpme}} template for a second opinion. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 13:29, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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== I notice you created uncategorized pages like [[m:Book management]] ==

Please categorize new pages on Meta. There's already a ''huge'' backlog there. (Feel free to create new categories as needed.) [[User:PiRSquared17|<b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr<sup>2</sup></b>]] ([[User talk:PiRSquared17|<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">'''t'''</i>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17|<i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">'''c'''</i>]]) 02:59, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
:Ah, sorry. I've done so. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 03:39, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[User:PiRSquared17|<b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr<sup>2</sup></b>]] ([[User talk:PiRSquared17|<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">'''t'''</i>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17|<i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">'''c'''</i>]]) 03:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

== Original Cover Girls block ==

Just as a general rule, we don't block people for username violations if their only edits are to [[WP:AFC|AFC]], as I indicated in my comments at AIV (if that's where you initiated the block from). [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 16:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
:I was asked by a user on IRC. What is the reasoning there? <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 16:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

== Mangoeater1000 ==

One of his confirmed and strongest sock-account remains unblocked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marco_Guzman,_Jr  --[[User:Yograj Khanna|Yograj Khanna]] ([[User talk:Yograj Khanna|talk]]) 20:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:It looks like it's been blocked since you left the message. In the future, you might want to post this to a noticeboard or something instead of just asking one random administrator—you're liable to get a faster response. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 21:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::It actually seems to be the other way around. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 22:37, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Oh, how did I mess that up? <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 23:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Mango is a sockmaster who has started harassing the people who report him and revert him, so he's trying every trick in the book - [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mangoeater1000]]. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 23:18, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::Indeed, I looked at the SPI when I was looking into this message. Could have sworn I saw that the user link he gave was blocked when I saw it, but I must have been looking at something else. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, it was also mistakenly tagged too. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 00:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Copies of deleted articles ==

Hi, I found you on the list of administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. Can I get a copy of these articles. 
*[[User:Alexbonaro/present day Genovese crime family]]
*[[User:Alexbonaro/Genovese crime family circa 1990]]
*[[User:Alexbonaro/Genovese crime family circa 1999 (after Cirillo heart attack)]]

Thank You. --[[User:Vic49|Vic49]]  ([[User talk:Vic49|talk]])  22:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:I typically send these via email. Can you send an email to gorillawarfarewikipedia{{@}}gmail.com so that I can send them to you? <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 22:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== You asked... ==

[[User:PantherLeapord]] is an editor that has a few bumps along the way, and needs adoption.  Please drop by and consider if you have the time and inclination.  [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis&nbsp;Brown</b>]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User talk:Dennis Brown|2¢]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|©]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|<small>WER</small>]] 18:56, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
:I'd be happy to help the user, although it appears [[User_talk:TheOriginalSoni#Question...|xe's already had a few offers]]. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 18:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
::I see, that is good, hope that works out.  During this time of year, you can't hang out a "looking for an adoptee" shingle for very long without getting pinged, as you just found :)  I will keep you in mind, however, as my observation of you tells me you have the right demeanor for the job. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis&nbsp;Brown</b>]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User talk:Dennis Brown|2¢]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|©]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|<small>WER</small>]] 19:03, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
::You might read the talk page of user:Retrolord.  It is complicated, and he hasn't asked for a mentor, but you might be able to offer a little guidance from time to time there.  Big bumps along the way, but I think he really has some good intentions.  He is just a bit impulsive.  [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis&nbsp;Brown</b>]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User talk:Dennis Brown|2¢]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|©]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|<small>WER</small>]] 19:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Can do. I would prefer an adoptee who really ''wants'' to be adopted, rather than being funneled there when they start to act up, as I find they tend to be a little more passionate about the whole process. That said, feel free to keep me in mind if you see anyone. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
::::I will.  I think I have got him on the road to "turned around" and pointed in the right direction.  What I think he needs is some encouragement and someone who he can ask questions to without fear of being judged.  That is why I thought you would be good, not as a mentor as much as offering to be a sounding board when he needs it.  You aren't nearly as mean as your name implies ;)   [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis&nbsp;Brown</b>]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User talk:Dennis Brown|2¢]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|©]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|<small>WER</small>]] 19:13, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

== Maher (NGO) ==
Hi! Maybe you remember me, I requested some help about writing an article of the ngo I volunteer for and after we spoke about the difficulties with requested articles (it is unlikely that it will be created in the next time) I decided to write it myself - and try my best to write it neutrally (and if possible critically). Now I finished the article as far as possible - I would be glad if it is possible for you to review it: [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Maher (NGO)|Articles for Creation: Maher (NGO)]]. 

Greetings, Lex

P.S.: I tried to find tertiary sources with critical comments about the organisation, but couldn't find any (only statements from an interview with the founder about difficulties in the beginning - and as it is a primary source, I didn't put it i
[[User:Asenox|Asenox]] ([[User talk:Asenox|talk]]) 11:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
:Hi Lex. I do remember you. The article looks alright at a glance, but I don't have time right now to do an in-depth review. Hopefully it will be reviewed shortly; otherwise, I'll try to take a look at it when I have a few spare minutes. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 14:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Humour Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Barnstar of Good Humor'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for helping me on the Teahouse freenode channel! [[User:Matty.007|<span style="color: #F00;">Mat</span>]][[User talk:Matty.007|<span style="color: #00F;">ty</span>]]<span style="color: #800080">.</span>[[Special:Contributions/Matty.007|<span style="color: #0f0">007</span>]] 19:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
|}

== Block request ==

Hi,
Can you please block my alt account, {{user|Cookies52}}, as I feel someone may have got hold of the password. A fairly neutral block summary would be appreciated. Thanks, [[User:Mdann52|Mdann52]] ([[User talk:Mdann52|talk]]) 20:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
:{{Done}} <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 20:37, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Administrator Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Admin's Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks a lot for your willingness, shown every time I needed help/suggestions. '''[[User:DerBorg|Dэя]]-[[User talk:DerBorg|Бøяg]]''' 01:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
|}

== Articles for creation/Jean Michel Gibert  ==

hello 

Your comments are duly noted. will review and try again.

Thanks
Michele

[[User:CMG2012|CMG2012]] ([[User talk:CMG2012|talk]]) 19:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
:Great, good luck. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 20:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Brilliant Idea Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Brilliant Idea Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | GorillaWarfare has extremely brilliant, accurate, and well-thought-out ideas.

Sincerely,
JustBerry [[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 01:49, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
|}

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Barnstar of Diligence'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Without a doubt, GorillaWarfare is a determined person who strives to reach out to other users, both on Wikipedia and on IRC, in a genuine and friendly manner. She is diligent in achieving high accuracy, precision, and definitely community service as a whole. 

Sincerely,
JustBerry [[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 01:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
|}

== A cookie for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Choco_chip_cookie.png|120px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For your diligent, hard working ethics! [[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 01:53, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
|}

== Some baklava for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG|135px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Enjoy your baklava! My adoptee, [[User:OscarLake|OscarLake]] valued your help about your help on the Teahouse freenode. [[User:Matty.007|<span style="color: #F00;">Mat</span>]][[User talk:Matty.007|<span style="color: #00F;">ty</span>]]<span style="color: #800080">.</span>[[Special:Contributions/Matty.007|<span style="color: #0f0">007</span>]] 18:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
|}

== BAFA ==

Hello, no idea what I am doing or if this is the right way to contact you. My name is Mel Biscombe and I am head of the UK American Football Leagues (BAFANL) and a board member of the British American Football Association (BAFA). I understand there has been talk of deleting all our team pages. Please could you let me know how I can help our teams meet the requirements?
Thank you
:Each team needs to meet the [[WP:GNG|notability guideline]], which states that it must be shown that there has been significant coverage of the team in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that are [[WP:INDEPENDENT|independent]] of the subject. Many of these articles do not have any such sources at all, and many of them are written with a very biased tone. I'm going to go through and try to clean up the tone issue and see what sources I can find, but if there are no sources showing notability for an article, it may be deleted. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 13:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

==Talkback==
{{talkback|JustBerry|User_talk:JustBerry#Talk_page_etiquette|ts=20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

{{talkback|JustBerry|User_talk:JustBerry#Talk_page_etiquette|ts=20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 21:01, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

{{talkback|JustBerry|User_talk:JustBerry#Talk_page_etiquette|ts=20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 21:05, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

{{talkback|JustBerry|User_talk:JustBerry#Talk_page_etiquette|ts=20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 21:12, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

{{talkback|JustBerry|User_talk:JustBerry#Talk_page_etiquette|ts=20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 21:16, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

{{talkback|JustBerry|User_talk:JustBerry#Talk_page_etiquette|ts=20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 21:35, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

{{talkback|JustBerry|User_talk:JustBerry#Talk_page_etiquette|ts=20:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 21:55, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

{{done}}

== Rollback Rights ==

Hi GorillaWarfare,

I know it's a little early on in the adoption course to ask, but by when do you think I may be granted for rollback rights? I am planning to use [[Wikipedia:STiki|STiki]]. --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 22:17, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
:You need a history of good vandalism reverts before you'll be considered for rollbacker. Be patient, and keep on with Lupin's tool for a while. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 22:19, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
::Okay, was just wondering. --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 22:36, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

== IRC ==
<nowiki>{{User:JustBerry/IRC}}</nowiki>
:I run my IRC client in a screen instance on a friend's server, so I always appear online. If I don't reply quickly, it's probably because I'm detached from the server—that said, I'll still get your messages when I get back. When I'm at my computer, I'm always on IRC, so leaving me notes like this won't really speed things up. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 02:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for the feedback; this was only an idea that suddenly popped into my head. I figured I would try it with you, as you give extensive, detailed feedback, which is certainly great. Thanks again. --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 19:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

== "Attack" User Page ==

Please let me know what you think of this: [[User:BuckMuckPluckSuck/sandbox]]. --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 20:07, 8 July 2013 (UTC)<br />

As a follow-up, and according to the attack page template, I put a notice on the talk page as well: [[User_talk:BuckMuckPluckSuck/sandbox]] --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 20:10, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
:(Discussed on IRC) <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 20:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

{{done}}

== [[User:Makeahero]] ==

Do you want to take responsibility for this account? Otherwise, I will block them for their user name and promotion (there's also the copyright infringement).--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 21:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
:I see that you've already done so, which seems wise. Out of curiosity, why did you contact me regarding this? I don't see that I've had any interaction with the editor in the past, although I could easily be forgetting something. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
::Actually, I had not blocked the user (now I have). The only reason I came to you was because the user's case bore some similarities to the user I blocked the other day. If you recall you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bbb23&diff=563028272&oldid=563027986 came to my talk page] asking me to change the block because you wanted to work with the user. Both users were involved with a non-profit organization that ''might'', if done properly, merit an article on Wikiedia (I haven't researched this user's organization). The exact sequence of events with the other user wasn't clear to me. Apparently, you spoke with her at IRC, but I wasn't sure if that happened before or after I blocked her. Anyway, all of this led me to believe that you might be interested in probing more deeply in these kinds of cases. Based on your response, it sounds like that was a special case because of the contact. I'll bear that in mind in the future. Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 10:49, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see. That was indeed an isolated incident—I'd been speaking with the user in #wikipedia-en-help prior to the block. Thanks for checking in! <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 15:34, 9 July 2013 (UTC)



== Input  invited ==

Hi  GW. I'm  just  letting  you  know that  I  have mentioned you  [[User talk:Worm That Turned#ne blocked, one retired|here]]. Depending  on  your available time, perhaps you  might  be the ideal  admin for the situation. You'll  need to  read the entire thread to  get  a full  grasp  of the situation. Cheers, [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 02:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I see that. I've been following that conversation, as well as the one on WT's talk page, so I think I'm relatively up-to-date. I have responded there. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

== Hulkster1 ==

Thank you. [[User:Cullen328|'''<span style="color:green;">Cullen</span>'''<sup style="color:purple;">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:blue;">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 05:19, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
:You're welcome. Hope you've been well :) <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 05:22, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
::Very well, GW. And you? Nice to see you more active these days. I assume that you are on summer break? [[User:Cullen328|'''<span style="color:green;">Cullen</span>'''<sup style="color:purple;">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:blue;">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 05:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's nice to be back on the project more. I am on summer break, though [[mw:User:GorillaWarfare/Proposal|I'm also working]] :) <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 05:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
::::Very cool! I will read the proposal tomorrow, since I am also working. But then again, I work all the time and need to sleep now. Take care. [[User:Cullen328|'''<span style="color:green;">Cullen</span>'''<sup style="color:purple;">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:blue;">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 06:12, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::You take care as well :) Say hello to Mrs. Cullen! <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 06:27, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::I read the proposal. I am not a "code monkey" or as in your case "great ape", so I don't understand the intricacies, but it sounds very worthwhile for making more books freely accessible. I am eating lunch with my wife (a rare workday treat). She remembers you from Boston and sends her greetings. She's been editing more lately as [[User:ChesPal]] but is nowhere near as addicted as I am. Take care. [[User:Cullen328|'''<span style="color:green;">Cullen</span>'''<sup style="color:purple;">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:blue;">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 20:26, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Cockapoo ==

Hi, I noticed you closed the discussion about excess images appearing in the [[Cockapoo]] article - thank you! Please could I prevail on you a little further and ask if, as an uninvolved Admin, you could remove the images that were being debated from the article? They had been left in while the discussion took place. The images are:

* <nowiki>[[File:Eight week old cockapoo.jpg|thumb|Eight week old Cockapoo]]</nowiki>
* <nowiki>[[File:Twelve (12) Week Old Cockapoo.jpg|thumb|Twelve (12) Week Old Cockapoo - Same as above]]</nowiki>
* <nowiki>[[File:Six Month Old Cockapoo.jpg|thumb|Six Month Old Cockapoo - Same as above]]</nowiki>
* <nowiki>[[File:One Year Old Cockapoo.pdf|thumb|One year old Cockapoo - same as above]]</nowiki>
* <nowiki>[[File:Cockapoo in the snow.jpg|thumb|Older Cockapoo in the snow]]</nowiki>

The reason I think it might be better for an uninvolved Admin to do the removal is because, despite being pinged, the Editor (theMastereditor3000) who had been re-adding the pics did not participate in the discussion - possibly because the images remained in the article? - and I suspect the images may once again be put back in once removed. I am not completely familiar with the nuances of 3RR and don't want to risk falling foul of them as I have previously removed the images! Sorry to bother you. [[User:Sagaciousphil|<span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 12pt">SagaciousPhil</span></span>]] - [[User Talk:Sagaciousphil|<span style="font-family: Century Gothic; font-size:10pt">'''Chat'''</span>]] 08:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
:Sure, I've removed them. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 15:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[User:Sagaciousphil|<span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 12pt">SagaciousPhil</span></span>]] - [[User Talk:Sagaciousphil|<span style="font-family: Century Gothic; font-size:10pt">'''Chat'''</span>]] 15:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

==Darren Bartlett==
Regarding your G11 deletion of [[Darren Bartlett]]:
*Nobody had nominated it for deletion.
*The article may have been intended for self-promotion but it was not ''unambiguously'' promotional, which is a requirement for G11.
*There was no copyvio. OTRS permission for re-use of material was confirmed, as indicated on the article talk page.
I am also an OTRS volunteer and have been communicating with the author about sources and COI. There have been improvements, but I do agree the article should go. However, I disagree that it qualifies for speedy. It should have been proposed for AFD instead.

I have also posted a query about the notability of the subject at [[WP:N/N#Darren Bartlett]] and would like to see some discussion before proposing it for AFD.

Please restore the article for now. I will do so myself in a day or so if you don't get around to it. ~[[User:Amatulic|Amatulić]] <small>([[User talk:Amatulic#top|talk]])</small> 14:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
:I have undeleted for now. I'll let you take the reigns on the AfD, since you said you would prefer to see some discussion at N/N first. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 15:05, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks. Do you have any thoughts about what I posted at [[WP:N/N]]? It's been waiting around for quite a while with no response. It seems that this noticeboard isn't on a lot of people's watch list. ~[[User:Amatulic|Amatulić]] <small>([[User talk:Amatulic#top|talk]])</small> 19:15, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
:::I think the article should go to AfD. I just don't think all of those trivial mentions are sufficient. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 20:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

[[File:Snuggle_logo.png|100x100px|thumb|right|[https://snuggle.grouplens.org Start '''Sn'''uggle]|link=https://snuggle.grouplens.org]]
== IRC office hours for wiki-mentors and [[WP:Snuggle|Snuggle]] users ==
Hi.  We're organizing an office hours session with the [[WP:Teahouse|Teahouse]] to bring in mentors from across the wiki to {{Plainlinks|https://snuggle.grouplens.org|try out Snuggle}} and discuss it's potential to support mentorship broadly.  The Snuggle team would appreciate it if you would come and participate in the discussion.  We'll be having it in {{channel|wikimedia-office}} on '''Wed. July 17th @ 1600 UTC'''.  See [[WP:Snuggle/IRC/2013-07-17|the agenda]] for more info.  --[[User:EpochFail|<span title="ohai" style="font-variant:small-caps">EpochFail</span>]]<small><sup>([[User_talk:EpochFail|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/EpochFail|work]])</sup></small>, [[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]] ([[User talk:Technical 13|talk]]), [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[user talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 17:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

== WP:GOCE Menu ==

Hi GorillaWarfare,

You may want to view some of the feedback given here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Coordinators#GOCE_Menu_Page. Overall (tell me if I'm wrong), this is what appears to be the "to-do" list:

1. Re-structuring page so that it is easily viewable on mobile/tablet devices.
:'''Solution''': {{discuss}}
2. Images link to tabs (instead of the original photo page)
:'''Solution''': {{done|Done, [[User:JustBerry/GOCEMenu|mind checking]]?}}
3. Explanation on the following:
:a. How does the portal appear confusing as it is?
::'''Solution''': As an example, when I work on articles on articles from [[:Category:Wikipedia_articles_needing_copy_edit_from_July_2013]] and I need to update my score or navigate to another tab, I spend time searching for the page, scrolling down, etc. I find that the menu allows the user to have a simplified, easy-to-use interface which provides the essential links/information for [[WP:GOCE]].
:b. How would the menu page integrate into the current portal?
::'''Solution''': This would be up to the group to decide how they feel that the menu may best integrate, but I do feel that it would be best to have it as the "front tab/page" so that users can directly navigate to where they want to go. Basically, it's a clear, basic "home screen."

Is it okay if we work on this project here? If not, I can move it to another page if you wish. --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 23:52, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
:Sure. The images do appear to be linking to the correct pages, which is good. A few notes: the design still does not work well in mobile view. The icons get pushed way down to below the sidebar, and at resolutions that are less than ~680px wide, you start to lose the sidebar and header. I also feel like you should not rely on users knowing what the large icons mean—there should be some sort of textual explanation. Keep in mind that users on mobile/tablet devices can't hover. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 16:25, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

== A cup of tea for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg|120px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for helping on the IRC when it seemed to be rush hour! Here, have a tea to keep you going! [[User:Matty.007|<span style="color: #F00;">Mat</span>]][[User talk:Matty.007|<span style="color: #00F;">ty</span>]]<span style="color: #800080">.</span>[[Special:Contributions/Matty.007|<span style="color: #0f0">007</span>]] 20:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
|}
:Thanks Matty :) <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 20:14, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

== 2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting ==

You are invited to the [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston/2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting|2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting]], on 20 July 2013 in Boston! We will be talking about the future of the chapter, including GLAM, Wiki Loves Monuments, and where we want to take our chapter in the future! [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 09:22, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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== your username ==

hello, i could not help but notice your username and wonder, is it a reference to the "Navy Seal/Gorilla Warfare copypasta" internet meme, or did you make it up yourself? you probably get asked this a lot, but i was just curious as to which it is.--[[Special:Contributions/174.103.114.44|174.103.114.44]] ([[User talk:174.103.114.44|talk]]) 20:52, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:I wasn't aware there was an internet meme like that. I created it six years ago; it was just something that popped into my head. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 20:54, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
::ah, ok, so it predates it. thanks for the answer!! :D -- [[Special:Contributions/174.103.114.44|174.103.114.44]] ([[User talk:174.103.114.44|talk]]) 21:24, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks again for help :-D  '''[[User:DerBorg|Dэя]]-[[User talk:DerBorg|Бøяg]]''' 04:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
|}


== Thanks, Gorilla, for "unbanning" me from Wiki's help chat room ==
[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:20, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello
<nowiki>{{whisperback}}</nowiki> my username: FrankSanello [[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

Sorry, Gorilla. I didn't realize Protospam considered my questions disruptive and irrelevant. By any chance were you able to review the transcript of our chat in the help room a few days ago?
Protospam determined I was asking irrelevant/disruptive questions there. No one else was complaining. Basically, Protospam told me to "shut up," then blocked me.
Thanks, Gorilla, for unblocking me. I'm about to check if I am now able to reenter the Holy of Holies, aka Wiki's help chat room.
Danke sehr, muchas gracias, gratia tibi, spacebo bolshoye, merci, mille grazie and half a dozen other languages I speak or read. :)
[[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:20, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello
[[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello
:I suppose I should clarify a little bit: PROMOSPAM performed the initial "quiet", which removes your ability to speak in the channel. I was the one who kicked and banned. If you'd like to discuss the reasoning behind it, I will be happy to discuss it with you on IRC—I have removed the ban in {{IRC|wikipedia-en-help}}, so you should have no trouble joining.

:As a side note, you do not have to use the whisperback template when you post on other users' talk pages. You also only need to sign your posts once. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 21:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

<nowiki>{{help me}}</nowiki>
After inserting <nowiki>{{whisperback}}</nowiki> on Gorilla's User talk page, I got an error message saying insert <nowiki>{{whisperback}}</nowiki> in the "first parameter." What is a first paramater? Thanks. So sorry to be a pest, but Wikipedia's formatting is way behind this 61-year-old man's technical abilities! :)
[[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello
[[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello
::As I mentioned above, you should not leave a whisperback template when you are leaving a message on someone else's talk page. When you leave a message for someone on ''your own'' talk page (as I am right now), you would add <nowiki>{{whisperback|userpage name}}</nowiki>. The whisperback I'm about to leave you to notify you of this response will be formatted <nowiki>{{whisperback|GorillaWarfare}}</nowiki>. In general, though, you don't typically need to worry about them. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 21:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
[[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

{{you've got mail}} 
How do I connect with you on IRC ??? to discuss the reasons you banned me from the help node?

Thanks, Gorilla.

[[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 21:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello
:I have emailed you back. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 22:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

**I've been so busy writing a book I didn't check my email in-box re: your info re: IRC??? I'll check now. Thanks, Gorilla.
[[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] ([[User talk:FrankSanello|talk]]) 14:16, 19 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello
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== This is the sandbox ==

[[User:Guerillero/Sandbox 5]] --[[User:Guerillero|<span style="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</span>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 05:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
:Awesome, thanks! <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 10:48, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

== A pie for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks!  [[User:Greatpumkin|Greatpumkin]] ([[User talk:Greatpumkin|talk]]) 16:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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==Talkback==
{{talkback|Nmandowa|ts=19:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)}}

== Cockapoo - again ==

Hi, a couple of weeks ago, you removed a series of images from [[Cockapoo]] as per the consensus on the talk page - see the conversation we had above about it. The editor has just added them all back in again [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cockapoo&diff=565565278&oldid=563675946] despite never becoming involved in the discussion. Would you mind having a look at it - or could you advise what the next steps should be, please? [[User:Sagaciousphil|<span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 12pt">SagaciousPhil</span></span>]] - [[User Talk:Sagaciousphil|<span style="font-family: Century Gothic; font-size:10pt">'''Chat'''</span>]] 05:13, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:Hi. I see someone has already reverted the edit, but I don't see that they have explained why. In the future, these edits should be reverted and an explanation should be given to the editor. I will leave a message on the user's talk page. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 15:17, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for that. I hadn't wanted to revert as I had already removed them just before the discussion and I thought I might have fallen foul of 3RR. What would be the best course of action if the editor puts them back again (which has already happened quite a few times)? [[User:Sagaciousphil|<span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 12pt">SagaciousPhil</span></span>]] - [[User Talk:Sagaciousphil|<span style="font-family: Century Gothic; font-size:10pt">'''Chat'''</span>]] 15:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:::I'll try to keep an eye on the page. If they continue to re-add the images without seeking discussion, they should be warned for edit warring. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 16:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
::::Great - thanks (again!). [[User:Sagaciousphil|<span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 12pt">SagaciousPhil</span></span>]] - [[User Talk:Sagaciousphil|<span style="font-family: Century Gothic; font-size:10pt">'''Chat'''</span>]] 16:09, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

== Contesting deletion of Giant Sparrow article ==

Hello GorillaWarfare,

I would like to contest the deletion of the article I have recently created, [[Giant Sparrow]]. I believe that a page for Giant Sparrow should exist for the same reason that the page for [[Thatgamecompany]], creator of the award-winning game [[Journey_(2012_video_game)|Journey]], exists. Giant Sparrow is the creator of [[The Unfinished Swan]], an innovative indie game that has been featured and praised by many notable news sites, such as NBC [1], VentureBeat [2], Forbes [3], and IGN[4]. 

[1] http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/unfinished-swan-beautiful-shooting-game-without-bullets-1C6656836

[2] http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/25/how-the-unfinished-swan-moved-from-student-project-to-playstation-3-downloadable-game/

[3] http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/10/29/review-the-unfinished-swan-is-a-splash-of-brilliance-that-soon-fades/

[4] http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/15/the-unfinished-swan-review

Thank you for your consideration of my request  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Impiety|Impiety]] ([[User talk:Impiety|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Impiety|contribs]]) 06:58, 25 July 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I have moved the article to [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Giant Sparrow]]. Once you've added these references and shown that the company is notable, you can submit the article for review. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 14:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
::I have moved it to the article space because it is notable for creating [[The Unfinished Swan]], and is covered in multiple reliable secondary sources here, in the article, and at [[The Unfinished Swan]]. It would be pointless to list 5+ sources for one point. [[User:Surfer43|Surfer43]] ([[User talk:Surfer43|talk]]) 16:10, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
:::The game seems clearly notable, and there is a lot of material in those references that could be added to the article. I'm confused as to why you insist on moving this article to the mainspace when it has one [[WP:PRIMARY|primary source]] and one basic listing. The article does not explain how the game is notable whatsoever; a couple of minutes of work could easily fix that. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 16:23, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

== Administrator abusing their Rights ==

Hello,

I believe a certain administrator on Wikipedia User:Bidgee, has been abusing his rights on Wikipedia and has been following my every edit, and calling it vandalism if he doesn't agree with it. He also believes I am a sock puppet and will probably soon block me for the 3 revert rule, even though he would've reverted it for the 4th time in a row and he uses Twinkle to revert obviously non vandal edits. I would wish for you to investigate him for me. Thank You in advance [[User:Mydogeatsbetter|Perisher Blue]] ([[User talk:Mydogeatsbetter|talk]]) 06:00, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
:I see no evidence of an administrator abusing their rights. I do see evidence of an editor using a misleading signature and pushing a bizarre point of view against consensus. But then again, I could be completely wrong, in which case I apologize. [[User:Cullen328|'''<span style="color:green;">Cullen</span>'''<sup style="color:purple;">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:blue;">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 06:20, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

:{{tps}} I  think you are referring  mainly  to  the [[Melbourne]] article. First  off, [[User:Bidgee]] is not  an admin. Secondly, you  should really  take the issue up  with  him or on  the article talk talk page, neither of which  you  have done. If  either of you  revert those edits again, you would both  in  breach  of [[WP:3R]]. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 06:24, 
26 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Maybe [[Sydney]] too? [[User:Cullen328|'''<span style="color:green;">Cullen</span>'''<sup style="color:purple;">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:blue;">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 06:28, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
::::PerisherBlue, or whatever your user name is, please don't make substantive changes to your remarks after other editors have commented. That is bad form. If you have something new to say, please make a new comment. Thank you. [[User:Cullen328|'''<span style="color:green;">Cullen</span>'''<sup style="color:purple;">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:blue;">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 06:49, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I am going to go ahead and leave this here without any real response, as the talk page stalkers have answered this pretty thoroughly. An issue with Bidgee is not something that should be brought to me, but rather something you should discuss with the user. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 02:40, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

==Partition of Ireland==
Hi you reverted my edit on the above. My intention was to add in some further detail about the debate on the Ulster Month. Maybe something went wrong on my edit. I am not sure. Either way, would you be able to go into the version that I edited and retrieve and paste onto my talk page the below. I cannot retrieve the underlying text with the formatting and sources. I may not have the most up to date version web browser or something but I can't go into "Edit" a historic page and thereby copy the text I had worked on so I can re-put it into the article carefully so as not to delete any other text (your note suggested I had deleted something but I had not intended to delete anything). Many thanks....Here is the "below" referred to. [[User:Frenchmalawi|Frenchmalawi]] ([[User talk:Frenchmalawi|talk]])

===text requested===

Debate on Ulster Month

As described above, under the treaty it was provided that Northern Ireland would have a month – the "Ulster Month" – during which its Houses of Parliament could opt out of the Irish Free State. There was some debate on when that Ulster Month should run from: From the date that the Treaty was ratified (in March 1922 via the Irish Free State (Agreement) Act) or the date that the Constitution of the Irish Free State was approved and the Free State established (6 December 1922).[1]

When the Irish Free State (Agreement) Bill was being debated on 21 March 1922, amendments were proposed which would have provided that the Ulster Month would run from the passing of the Irish Free State (Agreement) Act and not the Act that would establish the Irish Free State. Essentially, those who put down the amendments wished to bring forward the month during which Northern Ireland could exercise its right to opt out of the Irish Free State. They justified this view on the basis that if Northern Ireland could exercise its option to opt out at an earlier date, this would help to settle any state of anxiety or trouble on the Northern Ireland frontier. Speaking in the House of Lords, the Marquess of Salisbury argued:[2]

The disorder [in Northern Ireland] is extreme. Surely the Government will not refuse to make a concession which will do something...to mitigate the feeling of irritation which exists on the Ulster side of the border...[U]pon the passage of the Bill into law Ulster will be, technically, part of the Free State. No doubt the Free State will not be allowed, under the provisions of the Act, to exercise authority in Ulster; but, technically, Ulster will be part of the Free State...Nothing will do more to intensify the feeling in Ulster than that she should be placed, even temporarily, under the Free State which she abominates. Besides that there is the unrest in Ulster as a whole and the special unrest in the area which is to be the subject of delimitation...I need not remind your Lordships that the area in doubt, although according to His Majesty's Government it is small, is, in the opinion of the leaders of the Free State, a very large area.

The Treaty was ambiguous on whether the month should run from the date the Anglo-Irish Treaty was ratified or the date that the Irish Free State was established. The British Government took the view that the Ulster Month should run from the date the Irish Free State was established and not beforehand, Viscount Peel for the Government remarking:[1]

His Majesty's Government did not want to assume that it was certain that on the first opportunity Ulster would contract out. They did not wish to say that Ulster should have no opportunity of looking at entire Constitution of the Free State after it had been drawn up before she must decide whether she would or would not contract out.

Viscount Peel continued by saying the government desired that there should be no ambiguity and would to add a proviso to the Irish Free State (Agreement) Bill providing that the Ulster month should run from the passing of the Act establishing the Irish Free State. He further explained that the members of the Parliament of Southern Ireland had agreed to put that interpretation upon it. He noted that he had received from Mr. Arthur Griffith the following letter dated 20 March 1922:[1]

While it is held by the Irish plenipotentiaries and the Ministers of the Provisional Government that in the strict reading and interpretation of the Treaty the month in which North-East Ulster should exercise its option should run as from the date of the passing of the Bill [ratifying the Anglo-Irish Treaty rather than establishing the Irish Free State], they recognize that strong arguments might be made for the advisability of allowing North-East Ulster to consider the Constitution of the Irish Free State before exercising its option and they are willing to waive their interpretation, and agree that the [Ulster] month should run as from the date of the formal adoption of the Constitution [of the Irish Free State].

Lord Birkenhead remarked in the Lords debate:[3]

I should have thought, however strongly one may have embraced the cause of Ulster, that one would have resented it as an intolerable grievance if, before finally and irrevocably withdrawing from the Constitution, she was unable to see the Constitution from which she was withdrawing.

On 7 December 1922, the day after the establishment of the Irish Free State, the House of Commons of Northern Ireland heard an address by Sir James Craig to King George V requesting: "...that the powers of the Parliament and Government of the Irish Free State shall no longer extend to Northern Ireland". No division or vote was requested on the address, which was described as the Constitution Act and was then approved by the Senate of Northern Ireland.[4]

:Hi, Frenchmalawi. The text that you added is all visible in the page history (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Partition_of_Ireland&diff=565964118&oldid=565553547 your edit]). This will allow you to retrieve the text, formatting and all. That diff will also show what went wrong; you'll see the massive amount of text that existed in the previous edit, but was removed in yours. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 03:01, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Thanks but I was already aware of that. What I am looking for is only the underlying text of the above; not the whole article, if you would be kind enough to dig it out for me. I used to be able to but can't now. Working through the entire document is what I wanted to avoid. [[User:Frenchmalawi|Frenchmalawi]] ([[User talk:Frenchmalawi|talk]]) 03:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
::::Alternatively, I could revert back to my version; dig out the text and then revert back to your version again but don't want to be accused of edit warring in between! [[User:Frenchmalawi|Frenchmalawi]] ([[User talk:Frenchmalawi|talk]]) 03:17, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::Take a look at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Partition_of_Ireland&action=edit&oldid=565964118 the edit itself]. I believe the only text in there is the text you wrote. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 03:19, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, that was what I was looking for. I have re-edited and think it is better. I don't think there is anything controversial but, as always, if there is, we can pick it up on the talk page if needs be at which point I will probably give up. More often than not the discussions I partake in here go nowhere postive. [[User:Frenchmalawi|Frenchmalawi]] ([[User talk:Frenchmalawi|talk]]) 03:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

== Michaelewis ==

I don't think {{user|Michaelewis}} is trying to write an autobiography, because I don't think he's really [[Michael Lewis (model)]]. I think the former is (badly) impersonating the latter, since he's deliberately and obviously falsifying the article (hair and eye color being changed to not match the picture, etc). [[User:Jackmcbarn|Jackmcbarn]] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk]]) 02:49, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps... I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. The difference between "brown" and "dirty blonde" hair, and between "brown" and "hazel" eyes is slim enough that it may just be him trying to "correct" the article. Either way, I've blocked for edit warring, because he is unwilling to discuss. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 03:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
== Hi ==
I just saw your User Page and I think you look very lovely. Whatever edit you want on [[Partition of Ireland]] is ok by me. I am no doubt one among legions of fans. Well done. [[User:Frenchmalawi|Frenchmalawi]] ([[User talk:Frenchmalawi|talk]]) 03:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

== "inappropriate"? ==

Please elaborate.  [[Special:Contributions/99.181.144.35|99.181.144.35]] ([[User talk:99.181.144.35|talk]]) 03:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
:The mass-addition of ''Science Friday'' links appears to be [[WP:LINKSPAM|external links spam]]. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 03:59, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
::They are all different.  [[Special:Contributions/99.181.144.35|99.181.144.35]] ([[User talk:99.181.144.35|talk]]) 04:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
:::They all link to ''Science Friday'''s website, which appears to be an attempt to generate traffic for the site. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:03, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
::::I have no connection to the site, just a listener.  It just seemed efficient to do them as I saw them.  It is hard to imagine [[NPR]] being a "spam" concern.  [[Special:Contributions/99.181.144.35|99.181.144.35]] ([[User talk:99.181.144.35|talk]]) 04:23, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::If the episodes are very clearly providing detail that's unavailable in the article, feel free to re-add them. If they're just somewhat related, they shouldn't be included. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:30, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::Okay, sounds a bit arbitrary though.  [[Special:Contributions/99.181.144.35|99.181.144.35]] ([[User talk:99.181.144.35|talk]]) 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Perhaps [[WP:EL|the policy page]] will help clear it up. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
No, not really.  And now there is this [[User talk:Trlovejoy#Sugar substitute and Science Friday]] from this [[User talk:99.181.144.35]].  Seems dysfunctional.  [[Special:Contributions/99.181.144.35|99.181.144.35]] ([[User talk:99.181.144.35|talk]]) 04:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
:What don't you understand about the policy? I agree; a lot of it is a bit subjective. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
{{od}}
The IP, under various combinations of sock accounts, has been blocked for at least a year. See [[User:Arthur Rubin/IP list]][[User:NewsAndEventsGuy|NewsAndEventsGuy]] ([[User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy|talk]]) 10:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

== Please explain ==

Hey, I noticed that you undid my addition to River Phoenix's page. I am confused as to why you would do such a thing?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Knowledgebroadener|Knowledgebroadener]] ([[User talk:Knowledgebroadener|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Knowledgebroadener|contribs]]) 04:28, 29 July 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Wikipedia has a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]] policy that all articles should follow. Adding text like "River Phoenix was one of America's most iconic and beautiful child actors." and "His death was arguably one of the most tragic in all history." is highly biased, and conflicts with this policy. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

== I'm sorry, ==

I am so sorry, I don't know what came over me. :(.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Knowledgebroadener|Knowledgebroadener]] ([[User talk:Knowledgebroadener|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Knowledgebroadener|contribs]]) 04:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No need to apologize; as long as you do not reinsert biased information, it's fine. Regarding the heading of this message, you might do well to take a look at our [[WP:CIVIL|civility policy]]. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 04:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
::There's no need to shout, Knowledgebroadener. We're all real people behind these names who are just trying to curate the encyclopedia; there's no evil motives here. :-) [[User:The ed17|Ed]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[majestic titan]]]</sup> 04:52, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

== What is wrong with me?! ==

I am so sorry,

Of course I understand why you deleted my comment. I am so embarrassed. What's wrong with me. I knew it was going to be deleted some time or another. Please forgive me. :( --[[User:Knowledgebroadener|Knowledgebroadener]] ([[User talk:Knowledgebroadener|talk]]) 06:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Knowledgebroadener|Knowledgebroadener]] ([[User talk:Knowledgebroadener|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Knowledgebroadener|contribs]]) 05:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Allcargo Logistics Limited ==

Hi. I've left some notes at [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Allcargo Logistics Limited]], and notified [[User_talk:Vishalbansode|Vishalbansode]]. Let me know if you want the article moved into the encyclopedia. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole|email]])  17:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
:AFCH seems to think I'm the author of that page; I just moved the acceptance template to Vishalbansode's user talk page. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:50, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

== Paul Fleming bio ==

Why did you delete my page? Please advise on what the unambiguous advertising is, and I'll remove it. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AniDAAD|AniDAAD]] ([[User talk:AniDAAD|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AniDAAD|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:If you don't understand how text like "Paul Martin’s upscale American bistro focuses on fusing local and peak-of-season ingredients with great flavors to create tasty, affordable dishes for lunch and dinner." is [[WP:NPOV|biased]], I worry that you'll be unable to write a neutral article on the topic. If you would like to recreate the article, I will restore it for you, but in the draftspace. Articles that promotional are not allowed in the articlespace until they are rewritten neutrally. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 19:04, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Please restore and I will remove anything that seems like advertising. Thanks.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AniDAAD|AniDAAD]] ([[User talk:AniDAAD|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AniDAAD|contribs]]) 20:12, 31 July 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I've restored it to [[User:AniDAAD/Paul Fleming (restaurateur)]]. When you're finished, you can click "Submit this page" in the template at the top to submit it for review. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 21:23, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

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