Wiktionary:Feedback

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• Q. Why don’t you provide audio files giving the pronunciations of all entries?
• A. The recording of audio files requires volunteer editors who have the right equipment and software, and who know how to upload these files to the Wikimedia Commons. All this is somewhat time-consuming, and it seems that at the moment we simply don’t have editors who are able to do this for us regularly. We suggest that you learn how to read the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) transcriptions of pronunciations. For English entries, you can visit Appendix:English pronunciation, which you can also reach by clicking on the “(key)” link next to the word IPA on entry pages.

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• A. See incubator:Help:Manual.

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February 2024

quant

There's two things I would change about Wiktionary.

Number one. Wikipedia has a feature where you can hover over a wikilink and it pops up a little blurb with the opening text for the linked page. I think Wiktionary should do something similar. When you hover over a wikilink on Wiktionary, it should pop up a little blurb that contains the first definition (and maybe also the second definition) of that word in the user's language. For cross-linguistic cognates, the blurb should prioritize the user's language first, then the other languages in the order they appear on the word's page; e.g. if I hover my cursor over an internal link to the page for "reconnaissance" on en.wiktionary.org, it should show me the English definition, but if I do the same on fr.wiktionary.org, it should show me the French definition.

Number two. I think Wiktionary (and other Wikimedia Foundation wikis) should go back to Vector 2010 as the default skin.

174.76.218.106 16:07, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Personally, that would work if links were kept to a minimum. But the average page has multiple linked entries, and that could get messy and frustrating, in the end being more of a headache than a boon. Leasnam (talk) 22:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Unfight

Hello I am writing to submit a word That was never thought of Called "unfight" it means the opposite of fight It's up to you to find corresponding Events that are examples of the unfight in history — This unsigned comment was added by 68.194.120.81 (talk) at 02:23, 5 February 2024‎.

Unfortunately, we don't include words that people have just made up. There has to be evidence that words have been used by other people in books, magazines, etc. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:58, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Added at unfight, although as a verb. @Sgconlaw, this is hardly a made-up word—it's in the OED. Ioaxxere (talk) 06:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

scope_dope

Scope Dopes were the Army Sp/4's who sat in the Nike Here vans and watched the radars . The soldiers who maintained the missiles down range were nicknamed Rail Apes — This unsigned comment was added by 2604:b000:b208:e4a:f56e:eb20:35d2:b28a (talk).

μαϊμού#See_also

Why is a word from a different language (Spanish) included under See also? —71.105.243.101 00:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, guest. Corrected. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 20:45, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

muka

Serbo-Croatian: Etymology 1 should be removed and replaced by

Inherited from Proto-Slavic *mǫka (“torture, torment”), Cognates include Czech muka.

as far as I see. The relation to "flour" is already mentioned at Etymology 2 and is correct there.

--Rasmusklump (talk) 20:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

plik

Hello,

I believe the entry for the genitive singular in the declension table of the Polish word 'plik' (meaning 'a file') is incorrect. The entry shows 'plika' but I think it should be 'pliku'.

ㅋㅋㅋ

This is very helpful! i first learned of the WD (Wikionary = Wikipedia Dictonary) on the Pepe the Frog page. this is very helpful. Babysharkboss2 (talk) 14:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

sartor

how important is this page to you — This unsigned comment was added by 2600:6C40:5600:10CB:D962:32B4:B22F:921 (talk) at 05:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC).

Why do you ask? Chuck Entz (talk) 06:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Musekin

the musekin is an middle English word with variations in many languages that shows up in many 13-16th manuscripts. The definition of the word remained unknown for a long time and i don't know if it can or should be added because of the little known about it. https://doi.org/10.1080/17416124.2023.2189871 has a lot of info about it and says evidence points to it being a mail sleeve. so in short is the musekin eligible to be added and are there any other words here with unknown definitions Roboduckdragon (talk) 03:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Main_Page

i like the history that it shows me in the textes. — This unsigned comment was added by Chase.adkins (talk • contribs).

δέκατος#Numeral

The example sentence is Ο Οκτώβριος είναι το δέκατο μήνα but I think this is incorrect and it should read ...ο δέκατος μήνας. —71.105.243.101 07:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, guest. Corrected. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 17:39, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

я

Extremely helpful when learning another language!! Thank you!! Thanks for collecting not just one language but therms from such a big amount of languages (and translations between them)! A VERY VALUABLE Resource! -- 84.115.216.164 20:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Improve translation menus?

I would like the translation menus—to whatever extent—be improved upon. They are, in their present form, a complete mess from my experience.

I regularly translate moderately sized texts from English to Turkish. Therefore, I have my "recommended languages" preference set to Turkish. This works great for myself, but for visitors not logged into a user account, it just takes so long to navigate the massive menu on a lot of pages.

My proposal is a search function. Next to the title of the translation menu should be a search box. Enter a language name or code ("tr", "tur") in it, and it will filter the menu's contents upon your search. Ideally, the search box should be persistent between site visits, e.g. I can enter "tr" once and never again if I only wish to translate to Turkish.

As for the appearance, it's fine, really, but it could be better, especially regarding the yellow background...

Kind regards —Nataliemeoww (talk) 15:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Why i don't have a french traduction?

Bonjour, pourquoi il n'y a pas de traduction en Français pour tant on est 321 millions de locuteurs, est pas assez ? — This unsigned comment was added by 240f:c7:432:1:f9fc:e203:ca:687f (talk).

fr: —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

مول

I think someone has just tempered with this page. I can no longer be able to find the meaning of the verb mim waw jam in the second form. Before it existed. Could you please put it back. — This unsigned comment was added by 206.87.215.150 (talk) at 16:39, 28 February 2024 (UTC).

I'm not sure what you mean. موج is still where it's always been, but that would be "mim waw jim". This page is "mim waw lam", with an "l", not a "j". Of course, I don't speak any language that uses Arabic letters, so I could be missing something. @Fenakhay knows far more than I do. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

I've added a (modern standard) Arabic verb entry مَوَّلَ (mawwala), which is form II. I don't think it was removed. Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 04:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

March 2024

zagrada

The PONS-Dictionary Croatian-German gives more translation: https://de.pons.com/%C3%BCbersetzung/kroatisch-deutsch/zagrada

1. fence; 2. making a fence around; 3. parenthesis (only math)

It may be similar to all meanings of russian загородка and related to grad/город.

ngaji

I think the language linking does not rhyme with the meaning in other languages. Example, the Igbo word ngaji should be linked to the English word spoon which is it's equivalent, but I see a different thing. Please I need you to put me through how it works. Akwugo (talk) 22:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Akwugo: everything is arranged by spelling. If you look at an entry like a, you'll see that all the entries that are spelled the same are on the same page. Since we're a dictionary created and maintained by volunteers, there are many things we don't have yet. We may have millions of entries in thousands of languages, but we still have entries for only a fraction of the world's words and phrases.

According to the translation table at spoon, the word you're thinking of should be ngajị, which we don't have an entry for. If it's also spelled with a plain "i", someone would have to create an Igbo entry at ngaji before searching for it would work. You can see all 241 of our Igbo main entries at Category:Igbo lemmas. The sad truth is that we don't have enough contributors who know languages from other places than Europe and Asia- we have a few, but they can't do it all. If you know what you're doing (from your user page, I can see that you do) and can learn to format things properly, we can certainly use your help. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:34, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

@Chuck Entz Thank you for your kind response. I am ready to work with you then. Akwugo (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Feedback

I saw the little link on the sidebar saying "If you have time, leave us a note" so, I will. Thank you for maintaining Wiktionary! it is indispensable to me, and I reference it almost every day. It is effectively my primary dictionary, and the only translingual dictionary i know of. I especially appreciate the etymology sections! Please keep up the good work! 76.177.220.30 18:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for reading it! <3 —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:24, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Module:grc-headword

Hello Wiktionary maintainers,

Thank you for your hard work putting the Greek section together.

I noticed a small problem with the grc-verb template.

For the Greek verb ἔφαγον the grc-verb template produces the following output:

ἔφᾰγον • (éphagon) first-singular present indicative 

However, this is not correct, because ἔφᾰγον is not Present tense. It is obviously Aorist tense.

I don't see any way to pass any parameters to grc-verb to indicate the tense of this verb, or any other details.

Indeed the text "first-singular present indicative" appears to be hardcoded, for some reason, but this should not be hardcoded because there are many verbs which are never present tense, or never first singular: εἶπον, οἶδα, δεῖ, etc.

Can you folks please add some way to pass params to grc-verb so that we can explicitly mark the tense or person or number, if it is not default?

If this is already possible, can you let me know how to do it? How can we mark ἔφᾰγον as Aorist tense, or mark δεῖ as "third singular" or "impersonal"?

Thank you.

Latvvot (talk) 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, M @Latvvot, updating: ἔφαγον (éphagon) corrected, and cf Talk:ἔφαγον. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 16:07, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

bread

add that bread used to be a general term for food. 2A01:C23:6D85:6E00:D406:AE20:503B:CF3E 16:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

What you do mean exactly? The entry you are linking gives Food; sustenance; support of life, in general. as the second sense with two quotations, and has done for a while Arafsymudwr (talk) 16:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

وجد

please create a sentence that contains this word ⁧يُوجَدُ.

please add small seal script stroke order

Foreign word of the day: dormi ca valiza în gară

This is not a single word. It is an expression.

Wiktionary has entries on multiword terms in about 1,000 languages. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

balls_to_the_wall

Thanks for existing and making knowledge accessible and maintaining an independent place for both education and entertainment (not opposed to education), thank you! 21:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

145.255.0.150, thanks for reading. We do it for you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

noneditable

Never noticed this link before: "If you have time, leave us a note." If I had (noticed) earlier, I'd have commented the same thing - "Thank You for what you do here! It is utilized and appreciated." N.Kloever

Thank you, N. Please keep reading and let us know what we can do to make this the best dictionary. If you are so inclined, we'd love to have you editing to help as well. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:07, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Minor Edit Box on Mobile Edit

On the mobile version, there is no box to mark an edit as a minor edit. While on the desktop version, there is a box to mark an edit as a minor edit. This means people who edit on the mobile version can't mark an edit as a minor edit. The suggestion is, please add a box to mark an edit as a minor edit to the mobile version. Thanks. —Mardeon (talk) 15:25, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

This is a known issue, but it seems nobody is interested in implementing it. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 15:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Note:

Ok, so my note is, I can't tell y across this site, but I'm so passionate,excited and am now going to join in.ou how I came

indeLatin Quotations used to demonstrate word usage

Some quotations are so long and difficult that the baby is lost in the surrounding wordy water. Please use simple, straightforward quotations or concoctions a mediocre student can glean something from. Thanks.

inde#Latin has some pretty short quotations and the bold should make the term stand out. Can you explain which ones are confusing? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/seyt-

I believe there is an error here. You list síða as the Norse descendant. That means side. Meanwhile sīþaną and seyt- both mean magic. Therefore, seiðr is a better fit for the proper descendant of seyt- into Norse as it also means magic. Further, seiðr is listed as coming from soytós which is seyt- + -ós, meaning that at the very least, seiðr should be added to the list of Norse descendants here, but without some justification for síða it should probably be replaced by seiðr. 2601:681:8380:AF20:DC95:FFD5:F989:C2A1 05:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

věž

In my journeys through the Czech republic I found this sentence:

Kliče od WC jsou k vyzvednutí v prodejně a infocentru v ambitech pod hodinovou věží.

Though Google translted it to me I still cant deal with it.

If you have time, please add the words vyzvednutí , prodejně and ambitech somehow to this fine web page.

Tahnks

--Rasmusklump (talk) 01:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

okruh

I just uploaded a picture that could be shown at "okruh", I failed to insert it into this page.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/7/75/Prazskyokruh.jpg

Special:Log

merhaba bu sayfanın ileriye dönük çalışmaları güzel olacaktır — This unsigned comment was added by Volcano16 (talk • contribs).

The log is working. 02:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

April 2024

Special:AllPages

Merhaba wiktionary sayfalarını indirmek istiyorum ancak next page yani sonraki sayfaya basmadan olmuyor tek bir şerit halinde nasıl gorebilirim saygılar

Category:All_languages

Merhaba wiktionary sayfaları tek bir şeritte nasıl gorebilirim next page yapmadan — This unsigned comment was added by Mesut428 (talk • contribs).

autarquía

Not enough definitions. --2600:8804:481:F300:2DD2:C5B7:FDFD:1804 22:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

skellum

In Afrikaans the spelling is skelm

Word of the day: force majeure

The fine print reads falls on this day in 2023 (emphasis added). —⁠71.105.243.101 10:19, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. J3133 (talk) 10:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Audios

Many are poor quality. A robot would be better than many humans 90.174.3.118 21:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

parabellum#Latin

I'm confused. --2600:8804:481:F300:24E9:184F:FD9:97D3 23:27, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

musth

I can't find citations for the second sense, but it seems to mean the liquid they secrete as well Justin the Just (talk) 15:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

praeverto

Entry is incomplete: should include prefer

discord

there is a app called discord.

See Discord. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Appendix:Mandarin_Frequency_lists

Sorry, I have nothing to contribute but one question to ask: The page says "Full list contains 20,000 highest frequency Mandarin words that are used in Taiwan." but there are approximately 10,000 listed.

Anyway, Many Thanks

I've edited it to "10,000 highest". The person who worked on this list hasn't changed the list since 2013. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 21:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

zihoan

The IPA used in the pronunciation of this word and many of its related grammatical forms is wrong.

1. "(Gipuzkoan, Navarrese) /s̻ixoan/ [s̻i.xo.ãn]" should be changed to "(Gipuzkoan, Navarrese) /s̻ioan/ [s̻i.o.ãn]"
2. "(Biscayan) /s̺ixoan/ [s̺i.xo.ãn]" should be changed to "(Biscayan) /s̺ioan/ [s̺i.o.ãn]"

Basque <h> always has a null realization in southern dialects (including Gipuzkoan, Navarrese, and Biscayan), while it is realized as /h/...[h] or [ɦ] in northern dialects (including Navarro-Lapurdian).

If you look at the headword (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joan#Basque) and open the conjugation paradigm, there are inconsistencies in pronunciation across the columns.

Some columns have the correct IPA, such as

• 2nd sg inf. <hi>: hoa, hindoan, bahindoa, hindoake, hindoakeen, hoake, hoan, hoa (again)

(These entries all reflect the correct pronunciation and the correct realization in each dialect).

Other columns are completely wrong across the whole column:

• 3rd sg <hura>: zihoan, balihoa, lihoake, zihoakeen, bihoa
• 3rd pl < haiek>: zihoazen, balihoaz, lihoazke, zihoazkeen, bihoaz

These entries are inconsistent with other entries for Basque (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Basque_terms_with_IPA_pronunciation).

Their editor has wrongly entered the values /x/...[x] for the letter <h> under the pronunciation sections for "Gipuzkoan, Navarrese", "Biscayan", and "Southern" (the catch-all for those three).

In all those cases above, the phoneme and the phone should actually be null (silent).

I tried to edit them myself but couldn't figure out how to do so. They must be controlled by a module.

sycený

The Czech word sycený (with gas) is missing... of yourse also nesycený, e.g. sycená perlivá voda

host desecration

Isn't this just host + desecration? --2600:8804:481:F300:2DF9:F47D:3A99:F58B 08:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)