Real or fake?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BurrosCoins, Dec 18, 2023.

  1. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    My uncle picked up a couple Morgan VAMs this past week. I have been able to verify all but one. This looks real to me but comes up as bad certification number on PCGS. Photos not great, these are what he sent me.

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  3. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    I don't like the looks of it. The slab looks like a generation 6.0 https://www.pcgs.com/holdermuseum

    Here's a comparison of the PCGS logo located on the back of the slab.



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  4. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    The QR code comes up with the same number.
    That should be a good sign.
    But PCGS Still didn't find it.
    Make an inquiry with PCGS.
     
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  5. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    @Mr. Numismatist Thanks for information. That definitely looks questionable. I haven't seen the coin in hand yet, so was holding judgement. The more I look the more questions I have. I let my uncle know I questioned the coin/holder. He submitted a request to PCGS to request information but has not heard back. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
     
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  6. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    I ran a check on the QR code also. it says "https://www.pcgs.com/cert/36495269". Hopefully PCGS can shed some light on this.
     
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  7. Sting 60

    Sting 60 Well-Known Member

    Scanning the code comes up with invalid cert number. Same withe the certnumber lookup.
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The photo gets blurry when I enlarge it. I don’t know about the very number but the O/S mint mark looks like mine but it’s really not that clear due to being blurry. Can he send you a better closeup photo?
    Also, is the obverse reslly pink or is that the lighting? Nice looking coin.
     
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  9. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    I think it's ok. If you search for the surrounding cert numbers (36495268, 36495270, 71) - they all come back as the same coin, so perhaps a bulk submission with a clerical error on that cert number?
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  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Always suspicious of Morgan dollars, there
    are allot of fakes out there slab or no slab
    with these you really have to dive in to the research to make sure you have a genuine
    article.
     
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  11. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    I’ll ask for another picture. He’s not real good at pictures. The pink tone is from the lighting.
     
  12. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    Clerical error. That would be nice.
     
  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Some of these Certs were removed because of counterfeit coins in counterfeit slabs. I am hoping for the best outcome. Good luck.
     
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  14. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Be safe not sorry, check it out.
     
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