Working with farmers in Zambia and South Africa by really really listening to them. ----------------------------------------------------------Welcome to Investing in Regenerative Agriculture and Food.Join our Gumroad community, discover the tiers and benefits here: www.gumroad.com/investinginregenag. Other ways to support our work:- Share the podcast - Give a 5-star rating- Or buy us a coffee… or a meal! www.Ko-fi.com/regenerativeagriculture. ----------------------------------------------------------- For the first time I interviewed two people at the same time! Thekla Teunis and Gijs Boers, cofounders of Grounded  They are working to bring the agriculture sector in Africa back into balance. We luckily had time to cover many things in this podcast and to discuss how regenerative agriculture really works in practise on the ground in Southern Africa. The key take-aways:Listening to farmers, (really really listen) they know what could work well on their land, even if they don’t grow that mix of crops today because of circumstances forcing them to choose for short term solutionsIt is essential to find the right local crop mixWhen you are working with farmers and really listen, business cases will emerge, but you can't have a strict 10 year planningThere are huge opportunities in local processing in Africa, due to long distances to markets, challenging infrastructure, and it makes a lot of sense to process locallyLocal processing makes it possible to pay farmers for Regenerative agricultureAnd this offers many opportunities for (patient) Impact InvestorsShow notes and links:www.investinginregenerativeagriculture.com/2017/04/29/thekla-teunis-gijs-boers. ----------------------------------------------------------- For feedback, ideas, suggestions please contact us through Twitter @KoenvanSeijen, or get in touch through the website www.investinginregenerativeagriculture.com. Join our newsletter on www.eepurl.com/cxU33P. The above references an opinion and is for information and educational purposes only. It is not intended to be investment advice. Seek a duly licensed professional for investment advice.https://groundswellag.com/2023-speakers/ https://groundswellag.com/2023-speakers/ Support the showFeedback, ideas, suggestions? - Twitter @KoenvanSeijen - Get in touch www.investinginregenerativeagriculture.comJoin our newsletter on www.eepurl.com/cxU33P! Support the showThanks for listening and sharing!