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Normally, in these type of movies, we get a simple plot where the hero defuses the bomb and the villain is either killed or arrested. Not here, which is the only good thing about it.
The bad stuff is just everywhere. You keep asking yourself: 'why doesn't he do this or that and save us some time?' None of the main characters makes sense.
The boy climbing down a ladder to help his dad finds himself stuck. The father, who is seriously injured, now has to pull his son back up the ladder using a rope. And what does he get in return? A ladder in his face! And so much for his dad, the guy's is goner. Killed by his own son. Nice thing to work with, plotwise? No way, the boy doesn't even care!
Mena Suvari's boyfriend is nothing more than a pain in the ass. He succeeds in getting injured even before anything happens! Then he just lays around feeling sorry for himself. Well done! The would-be-hero-dude (Rob Lowe) who pulls out of the rescue operation and leaves all the work to his college who (of course, he was black and previously unintroduced) dies. It's like saying: 'I'm a firefighter, but I have wife and kids, so I'd better leave now!'
I don't feel like writing anymore about this, as it feels like a waste of time. A strange thing is that I enjoyed watching it, merely to laugh at the mistakes and plot holes. So it might have Ed Wood potential!
O yeah: what ever happened to the black guy leading the firetruck parade?
4/10
The bad stuff is just everywhere. You keep asking yourself: 'why doesn't he do this or that and save us some time?' None of the main characters makes sense.
The boy climbing down a ladder to help his dad finds himself stuck. The father, who is seriously injured, now has to pull his son back up the ladder using a rope. And what does he get in return? A ladder in his face! And so much for his dad, the guy's is goner. Killed by his own son. Nice thing to work with, plotwise? No way, the boy doesn't even care!
Mena Suvari's boyfriend is nothing more than a pain in the ass. He succeeds in getting injured even before anything happens! Then he just lays around feeling sorry for himself. Well done! The would-be-hero-dude (Rob Lowe) who pulls out of the rescue operation and leaves all the work to his college who (of course, he was black and previously unintroduced) dies. It's like saying: 'I'm a firefighter, but I have wife and kids, so I'd better leave now!'
I don't feel like writing anymore about this, as it feels like a waste of time. A strange thing is that I enjoyed watching it, merely to laugh at the mistakes and plot holes. So it might have Ed Wood potential!
O yeah: what ever happened to the black guy leading the firetruck parade?
4/10
The piece starts interestingly enough, as a train carrying hazardous materials and a contraband nuclear warhead rattles its way across the mountains towards Denver with a serious case of brake-failure. The film never quite manages to be the action-adventure flick that the its creators probably intended (my fellow Dayton-ian Rob Lowe as Action Man?), but it does rather start to work as a comedy - a comedy of errors. Just when you think you've reached the end of your bad luck day, yet another incredible coincidence comes up that plunges the characters into harm's way.
I won't give away any of the various plot twists, but my wife and I started to laugh every time an ignorant walk-on character delivered a line like: "I've got to do something right now, because lives are at risk". This is, perhaps, one thing that distinguishes this film from other American-made catastrophe flicks: it does not glorify the plucky non-professional and well-meaning individualist who rebells from authority but then manages to save the day anyway. (Sorry, Bruce Willis.) These sorts of "rugged individuals" (i.e., stupid but well-meaning folk) keep recurring - mostly as cannon fodder for the ever-increasing body count.
Perhaps the moral of the movie could be summarised as, "this is what happens when you don't listen to the people in charge", or even, "no good deed goes unpunished". Unfortunately, the President of the US himself (played by reliable character actor Edward Herrmann) is given the unsavoury task of delivering the trite and didactic concluding thoughts near the end of the piece.
Come on, Rob, you are better than this train wreck waiting to happen.
I won't give away any of the various plot twists, but my wife and I started to laugh every time an ignorant walk-on character delivered a line like: "I've got to do something right now, because lives are at risk". This is, perhaps, one thing that distinguishes this film from other American-made catastrophe flicks: it does not glorify the plucky non-professional and well-meaning individualist who rebells from authority but then manages to save the day anyway. (Sorry, Bruce Willis.) These sorts of "rugged individuals" (i.e., stupid but well-meaning folk) keep recurring - mostly as cannon fodder for the ever-increasing body count.
Perhaps the moral of the movie could be summarised as, "this is what happens when you don't listen to the people in charge", or even, "no good deed goes unpunished". Unfortunately, the President of the US himself (played by reliable character actor Edward Herrmann) is given the unsavoury task of delivering the trite and didactic concluding thoughts near the end of the piece.
Come on, Rob, you are better than this train wreck waiting to happen.
- robertcarolina
- Jul 26, 2001
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Working for a railroad in train operations as an engineer, I know how trains work. Several things are wrong with this movie and personally it surpasses what I know as being just plain stupid to reach a new plateau of stupidity and retardation of normal people which I've never known before. For example:
a - when a brake pipe hose between two cars breaks its connection, the rapid drop in break pipe pressure will cause a train to immediately go into emergency and stop. (in the movie they were trying to put it back together to try to stop the train)
b - when a train has electrical problems, such as even a weak battery, safety systems will cause an emergency application of the brakes. This did not happen in the movie.
c - I have never in all my railroading days seen a boxcar with railings on the side and extruding steel for a footwalk to gain access to the door.
d - when the train was creeping at walking speed at the top of the mountain, the people could have EASILY walked to the cars and tied hand brakes stopping the train. Even if all the hand brakes failed (which is an impossibility due to required initial terminal testing on the trains brakes before departure from a yard) a large limb from a nearby tree could have been used to stop the train. *I've done it while working in the yards using a 2x4*
e - when the engine was attached to the rear end and trying to pull the train to a stop, use of dynamic brakes couldn't create so much "strain" as to break a knuckle (the coupling mechanism in a coupler) as depicted in the movie. The knuckle part of a coupler is solid steel, and given the circumstances would be EXTREMELY difficult to break.
f - the crew on the caboose had control of the emergency brake valve on the caboose, and could have placed the train into emergency from the rear.
a - when a brake pipe hose between two cars breaks its connection, the rapid drop in break pipe pressure will cause a train to immediately go into emergency and stop. (in the movie they were trying to put it back together to try to stop the train)
b - when a train has electrical problems, such as even a weak battery, safety systems will cause an emergency application of the brakes. This did not happen in the movie.
c - I have never in all my railroading days seen a boxcar with railings on the side and extruding steel for a footwalk to gain access to the door.
d - when the train was creeping at walking speed at the top of the mountain, the people could have EASILY walked to the cars and tied hand brakes stopping the train. Even if all the hand brakes failed (which is an impossibility due to required initial terminal testing on the trains brakes before departure from a yard) a large limb from a nearby tree could have been used to stop the train. *I've done it while working in the yards using a 2x4*
e - when the engine was attached to the rear end and trying to pull the train to a stop, use of dynamic brakes couldn't create so much "strain" as to break a knuckle (the coupling mechanism in a coupler) as depicted in the movie. The knuckle part of a coupler is solid steel, and given the circumstances would be EXTREMELY difficult to break.
f - the crew on the caboose had control of the emergency brake valve on the caboose, and could have placed the train into emergency from the rear.
- shostetler
- Jan 23, 2001
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- jinns_girl
- Sep 18, 2006
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The whole movie is a nuclear bomb itself. It's three hours long! And it felt like three whole long days. This movie has a good concept, but a horrible delivery. There are way too many plot holes in the movie. It is so boring. The characters are all flat and one dimensional. While the lead actors are attractive, none of them are very talented. Kristin Davis, who is usually pretty good, is terrible here. It's not really her fault though, because her role was so unglamorous. Most of the other actors are also awful. Only Rob Lowe's performance comes close to being adequate.
One more thing, would you put a nuclear bomb on a train?!
One more thing, would you put a nuclear bomb on a train?!
This movie was WAY longer than it should have been. The idea for the story was good, there are just too many holes in it to make the movie good. They waste time showing you secondary characters (who had no relevance to the story) dying. Let me save you some time, the bomb goes off and everyone runs for it, end of story.
Someone else commented that "they paid good attention to details". What details?? The fact that fire does not detonate a nuclear bomb? Or (as anyone who's seen a weather report would know) that the winds in the U.S. blow from West to East, and if you're trying to get away from Nuclear fallout, you should head West (upwind) and NOT East.
Then there are ridiculous parts of the story, such as the guy who "can disarm the bomb with his eyes closed" not mentioning that fact until after he's sent someone else into the train car on fire to look at the bomb. He sent the first guy in because he's the only one who has seen the bomb and knows what it looks like, yet when he goes in to disarm the bomb, he walks straight to the crate the bomb is in and opens it.
This doesn't even make it to a 'B' movie, at best, it's a 'D' movie.
Someone else commented that "they paid good attention to details". What details?? The fact that fire does not detonate a nuclear bomb? Or (as anyone who's seen a weather report would know) that the winds in the U.S. blow from West to East, and if you're trying to get away from Nuclear fallout, you should head West (upwind) and NOT East.
Then there are ridiculous parts of the story, such as the guy who "can disarm the bomb with his eyes closed" not mentioning that fact until after he's sent someone else into the train car on fire to look at the bomb. He sent the first guy in because he's the only one who has seen the bomb and knows what it looks like, yet when he goes in to disarm the bomb, he walks straight to the crate the bomb is in and opens it.
This doesn't even make it to a 'B' movie, at best, it's a 'D' movie.
Actually this movie isn't so bad for a Made for TV Action Movie. Of course everything was over the top and the acting was sub par. It was the type of movie that if it can go wrong it will. You keep asking yourself can anything go right for these People????? and then nothing goes right for them. It is just one of those movies you have to watch and let the mind wander and enjoy this movie is best watched if you have a big storm outside and you can't go anywhere so might as well sit back and have fun.
Of course there are plot holes you can drive a Steam Train Through. But what Made for TV movie doesn't. Some Charters are droped before the first half of the movie is over and you never see them again and you go through the rest of the movie wondering if they will ever show up again.
My biggest gripe of the movie is some of the actions of the Charters get them into the Problems they have. If only they follow the Rules or directions this movie wouldn't have had the same Ending it did. Just following the Rules would of caused the Train to have a happy ending.
But don't worry it is a Great time killer full of hammy acting and Cheap FX.
Of course there are plot holes you can drive a Steam Train Through. But what Made for TV movie doesn't. Some Charters are droped before the first half of the movie is over and you never see them again and you go through the rest of the movie wondering if they will ever show up again.
My biggest gripe of the movie is some of the actions of the Charters get them into the Problems they have. If only they follow the Rules or directions this movie wouldn't have had the same Ending it did. Just following the Rules would of caused the Train to have a happy ending.
But don't worry it is a Great time killer full of hammy acting and Cheap FX.
I rarely, if ever, give a movie the dreaded 1. I usually try and look for the good parts of a movie, whether it's the acting, or the story, or some subplot, or even the special effects. But with this total waste of time, there was no doubt at all. It is sad when a movie is so bad, so lame, that is essentially a parody of itself. What is even sadder is that this definitely was not a cheap movie made by college kids with nothing better to do. No, this is a network flick, and lots of thousands of dollars went into creating this piece of nonsense
The acting is the high spot of the movie, yet in places it is barely watchable. The production values are so-so, the effects are there, but aren't exactly that special. But what really makes this movie so bad, it's the plot. It's not a really bad idea, it's just how the idea was developed, or tried to, i better say. The plot holes are so big, you could drive a train through them. I could not figure the meaning and purpose of about half of the scenes, and the entire riot subplot is mildly put, ridiculous.
The acting is the high spot of the movie, yet in places it is barely watchable. The production values are so-so, the effects are there, but aren't exactly that special. But what really makes this movie so bad, it's the plot. It's not a really bad idea, it's just how the idea was developed, or tried to, i better say. The plot holes are so big, you could drive a train through them. I could not figure the meaning and purpose of about half of the scenes, and the entire riot subplot is mildly put, ridiculous.
This TV-film was entertaining and it would not be far away from action cinema if it had been less longer. There were many plots and twists but some scenes could have been cut to make shorter the running time. They paid attention to many details and congratulations to the director that he succeeded in creating a suspenseful film. If you like train movies don´t miss "RUNAWAY TRAIN". We gave 7/10.
- Luigi Di Pilla
- Aug 3, 2002
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The impossibilities of this actual event occurring are incredible. Good thing it is fiction since this type of event couldn't happen thanks to the installed air brake fail-safes on every train in use since 1870. When a train loses air pressure in its braking system it causes the brakes on each car to lock up successively, spreading from the initial problem and moving towards the front and rear of the train. Emergency brakes are actuated on a train by a LOSS of air pressure NOT an existence of one. Similar to the way the air brakes work on a semi-truck...
"Anything that causes a QUICK drop in brake pipe pressure at any car, will trigger that car which in turn triggers adjoining cars and thus puts the whole train in emergency. This initial trigger could be the engineer, the conductor pulling his emergency valve in the caboose, the brakeman pulling his valve in the cab, the train or air hoses coming uncoupled, or an air hose bursting."
The producers should have discussed this movie with a REAL train person before they created this farce. This movie isn't worth watching past the first half hour if you are looking for any bit of a credible storyline.
"Anything that causes a QUICK drop in brake pipe pressure at any car, will trigger that car which in turn triggers adjoining cars and thus puts the whole train in emergency. This initial trigger could be the engineer, the conductor pulling his emergency valve in the caboose, the brakeman pulling his valve in the cab, the train or air hoses coming uncoupled, or an air hose bursting."
The producers should have discussed this movie with a REAL train person before they created this farce. This movie isn't worth watching past the first half hour if you are looking for any bit of a credible storyline.
- jimdavis01
- Jul 9, 2004
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For a reality check, please digest these facts and compare them to the fiction of this mini-series:
**Nuclear weapons are no longer transported on trains in the U.S.
**Nuclear weapons are never armed when transported.
**Nuclear waste and nuclear weapons are NEVER transported together.
**Nuclear waste is transported in containers designed to withstand extraordinary external challenges (i.e. fire of 2000 F, impact of a locomotive at 80 mph, water immersion, sabotage, etc.).
**In the past 30 years, nearly 3,000 shipments of used nuclear fuel has been transported safely via highways and railways in the U.S., as have more than 45 million packages of radioactive materials.
**Eight containers have been involved in transit accidents. All remained intact with no release of radioactive material.
**The first priority of federal, state and local agencies who regulate shipments of radioactive materials is the safety and welfare of the public.
**Nuclear weapons are no longer transported on trains in the U.S.
**Nuclear weapons are never armed when transported.
**Nuclear waste and nuclear weapons are NEVER transported together.
**Nuclear waste is transported in containers designed to withstand extraordinary external challenges (i.e. fire of 2000 F, impact of a locomotive at 80 mph, water immersion, sabotage, etc.).
**In the past 30 years, nearly 3,000 shipments of used nuclear fuel has been transported safely via highways and railways in the U.S., as have more than 45 million packages of radioactive materials.
**Eight containers have been involved in transit accidents. All remained intact with no release of radioactive material.
**The first priority of federal, state and local agencies who regulate shipments of radioactive materials is the safety and welfare of the public.
Nearly every trite event possible has been thrown into this dragging nightmare. The evil money hungry young man sneaks an apparently armed Russian bomb onto a train. How did he get it on there? The Russian's are trying to "dispose" of this? Why didn't they disarm it? Isn't it easier to dispose of nuclear waste in Russia? And the spineless accountant has to go along with the scheme. Why do they always tell the accountant? But he calls in a warning (from the office phone to the train control center, not the police by the way). What do you look under to find the number for the train control center? Was it the chemicals that ate through the chemical resistant air hoses in a few short hours or was it the fire inside the boxcar that shouldn't have been able to reach under the car to the brake lines? And don't the brakes go ON like tractor trailers when the brake pressure is lost? Couldn't they have put the train electric motors in REVERSE? What about all those big wheels on each train car that run the MANUAL EMERGENCY BRAKES? And the train coupler failed? What are the odds? The government bomb experts have no idea what the bomb configuration is, but one brave man tells us he can disarm it in his sleep. And it just goes on and on and on and I could go on and on and on, but all bad things must end. And the very minute the crisis is over apparently somebody is rebuilding a house on the tarmac outside the hanger. How can so many good actors put together such a horrible movie? I hope you get to watch this too because misery loves company.
I won't go into great detail on all the plot holes because it would take all day, but I will point out a few. First off, as others have pointed out, if a brake line on a train breaks, the emergency brakes automatically engage. No exceptions. That is how they work. The pressure in the line keep the brakes open. Loss of pressure allows them to close. Second, nuclear weapons do not explode because of fire. Third, unless the train route were all downhill (which it could not be going to Denver) even without brakes the train would have slowed down and stopped had the engineer only TURNED OFF THE ENGINE!!! These are only some of the major plot holes in this movie. Not five minutes went by in the film without another. I saw a movie called "Slugs" years ago about killer slugs eating people that I always thought was the worst movie ever. This one is 100 times worse. I don't usually insult people for their taste in movies, but there are people who gave this 9/10. ???
- redshift451
- Mar 14, 2005
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- KillerZero
- Jan 30, 2005
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I give movies which I cannot stomach watching till the final credits a rating of 3 or below. I gave this film a 4 because I watched it till the end - only because there was nothing else to watch on TV at the time.
More holes that a slice of swiss cheese - that the mice got at.
More holes that a slice of swiss cheese - that the mice got at.
- andrew_in_york
- Jan 11, 2004
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This film fixed my parents marriage and they ripped up the divorce papers in front of me. The only downside to this is that i can only watch atomic train in one house because when i tried to watch this at my Grandmas she beat me and called this the worst radioactive train based tv mini series she has ever seen. But my Grampy seemed to like it because every time we watch it together he gives me some slop slop 3000 and boy when he takes those false teeth out OOOHHH BOOYYY it goes absolutely insano cray cray mode. When he is going to town on my 16 nano meter long it goes like a magikarp mouth. Absolutely useless if you don't evolve it.
- hspencer-33246
- Sep 25, 2023
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Are you telling me that amongst all the other awfulness of this there really is a character called Phister? You sure they didn't mean the director or the writers? Well, it fits with the rest of it, I guess. As I need ten lines of text, so it says in the rules,to make a review I'll try and think of some more to say about this farrago. First, in fairness mode we can say that much of the camera-work isn't at all bad if at times repetitive. Shows us some nice travelogue views, too. But just when you think that O.K., here comes the heroic resolution, this is going to be the bit where virtue triumphs and the bad guys(unseen and possibly non-existent - mind you, I couldn't stick it to the end)are heroically thwarted. Pelion upon Ossa to no effect - oi ve.
Mike
Mike
I thought the first half of the movie was good enough for a TV movie once you get past the impossible premise. I look at the second half of the movie as two hours of my life I will never get back! The movie is worth renting for the family for a few dollars just so you don't have to sit through all the commercials (it comes to video on Sept. 21). Watch the first half, then turn it off and you'll be O.K., but if you're looking for a high-quality movie, though, you'll need to keep looking.
- Videoman-4
- Aug 4, 1999
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I won't waste too many words on this one.
Let me merely state that if you are amused at stupidity in movies, this one is for you. Contests should be held to see who can find the most stupid facets of this movie.
If you have any doubts, don't take my word for it. Watch it for yourself. I had to take out a notepad to write down all the stupid things to tell my friends.
Overall, a trite, witless movie that's very predictable, except for scenes like when the father is in need of transportation and a man in a car conveniently drives up to him, falls out and dies.
If you enjoyed picking apart Superman IV, you'll love this example of studios in their endeavor to cater to the lowest common denominator of human "intelligence".
Let me merely state that if you are amused at stupidity in movies, this one is for you. Contests should be held to see who can find the most stupid facets of this movie.
If you have any doubts, don't take my word for it. Watch it for yourself. I had to take out a notepad to write down all the stupid things to tell my friends.
Overall, a trite, witless movie that's very predictable, except for scenes like when the father is in need of transportation and a man in a car conveniently drives up to him, falls out and dies.
If you enjoyed picking apart Superman IV, you'll love this example of studios in their endeavor to cater to the lowest common denominator of human "intelligence".
- Asteri-Atypical
- Aug 3, 1999
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I have to agree with "lame, lame lame..., etal. 1. A major air leak would put the train into emergency and slow it to a stop. 2. Why would an NTSB investigator even board the train? Its not exactly like he possesses any special skills to mitigate the problem. Why not an accountant or journalist...it would make as much sense. 3. It was amazing how the railroad crew materialized immediately on site (in the middle of the Rockie Mountains) when the decision to install a derailer was made. 4. Finally, where is there 300+ miles of steep, continuous downgrade leading into Denver, Colorado...they would of had to be coming from the moon.
- WesternWildcard
- Dec 16, 2006
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