Love Systems Insider: Dating Multiple Women, Frame Control
Love Systems Insider: Dating Multiple Women, Frame Control
Love Systems Insider: Dating Multiple Women, Frame Control
I’m almost having too much success. I’m dating three different women
right now and they are all fantastic and I don’t want to give any of them up.
But my town is not all that big, and everyone knows someone who knows
someone else who knows anyone. None of the women I’m dating are more
than a couple degrees of separation from each other and I think they think
that I am exclusive. What should I do? I know I should just go to a
bootcamp and damn I would love too, but I’m far away and work weekends.
So, I’m hoping you could help me!
- V.R., Fayetteville, NC
A:
Dear V.R.,
Where you are now, you need to tell them at least some of what is going on.
It’s the right thing to do if you genuinely care about them, and if moral
arguments don’t sway you, then consider that they will find out anyway.
The most important thing will be not to act like you have been or are doing
anything wrong. Think of how you would act if you smashed her car. You’d
pick a good time, you’d make sure she was relaxed, you’d say “I have
something to tell you” and then you’d come out and say it, explain it, and
apologize. Don’t do any of that. If you sub-communicate that you think you
are doing something wrong, or sub-communicate that you think that she
may think that you are doing something wrong, then that might be her
conclusion.
This is most applicable if you’ve been dating these women for 1-2 months.
Longer than that, and you’ve probably created expectations in her that will
require more effort to deal with.
Take Care,
Savoy
Q #2:
Love Systems,
I don’t know if you guys know this, but you have a big following in South
Africa. If you ever come down here, I’m sure you’ll fill all of your programs.
I just listened to the Interview Series on Frame Control from Savoy and Sinn.
It makes me think of every conversation, not just ones to meet women, in a
different way. Like they say (I don’t know if I have this quote exactly right),
“There can only be one frame in any interaction. The stronger frame
absorbs the weaker frame... That’s why people follow cult leaders or join
the army.”
I’ve been on two dates with someone who every once in a while will cut off a
conversational thread with “I don’t want to talk about that.” I feel the wind
taken out of the conversation when she does it and it also feels like I’m in a
more submissive position to her afterward. Is this important? What should I
do?
With your woman’s comments, I’m assuming that they don’t always come in
response to the same conversations. If you keep asking her why she doesn’t
get along with her brother and this is the response you are getting, then my
advice would be the same as hers: stop asking.
So, let’s assume that this is a general conversational tactic for her. The first
thing I’d say is that you don’t need to “win” every part of every
conversation. The second is that what she is saying is pretty negative.
Later in your relationship you can address this. For now, concentrate on
turning the interaction around to a positive. Try saying “neither do I; I was
just being polite” or “I love that you’re the strong, silent type.” With either
(or any) response, continue immediately, without pausing, with a new
conversational topic. Ideally “so, anyway...” and go into an interesting or
high-impact story.
Take Care,
Savoy