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EvidenceJay's Drug Connections (self.

serialpodcast)
submitted 1 day ago * by Shadynasty111
http://ascensionconfidential.com/2014/11/25/serial-podcast-cellphone-datashows-how-jay-acted-alone-in-murder-of-hae-min-lee/
please read above important information and educate yourselves and others.

what if Jay acted alone and threw Adnan under the roof?

guess what he did. there is entirely plausible evidence as viewed in article, and
supported by expertise.

i found a real big banger in an excerpt pulled:


How did Adnan get so wasted in approximately 20 minutes? Bear with me. And
please keep in mind that Jay was raised in an extended family intimately familiar
with criminal activity and the court systemso has an inculcated criminal mindset.
Jay was at his connection Patricks house earlier, and who knows what kind of daterape drug he actually bought to slip Adnan at McDonalds? Obliterating Adnans
memory as future insurance should his 3:40 Jenn alibi fall through. Because Jays
insurance plan succeeds brilliantly. Not initially to frame Adnan. Just so that Adnan
would prove an unreliable witness should Jay get caught and go to trial for Haes
murder.
alright guys, this is big, really big. if anyone ever done pot, you know you don't feel
it as soon as you take it.

i imagine it was like tylenol pm, u feel it maybe in 39 minutes to hour.

also someone said Jay has a lot of very important, big time criminal friends in the
jail adnan at.
makes sense, jay was involved in really big crimes and drugs not just pot. maybe
even cocaines.
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[]xtrialatty 17 points 1 day ago
if anyone ever done pot, you know you don't feel it as soon as you take it.
Somehow I don't believe that anyone who has ever smoked weed would write this
(or believe this).
ETA: If there is any redditor who hasn't ever smoked marijuana or observed
someone else smoke.. here's a web site that accurately describes the effect as
"almost immediate."http://www.healthline.com/health/addiction/marijuana/effectson-body

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[]orangetheorychaos 14 points 1 day ago*
You just posted a source for what it's like to smoke up.
Eta: I think this funny xty, very lawyerly of you :) and- I can source too
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150320-why-do-we-laugh-inappropriately

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[]cross_mod 0 points 1 day ago*
xtra, I guarantee you have never eaten strong pot brownies. They will knock you
on your ass about 30 minutes- 1 hour after you eat them. It's why I try to avoid

edibles. Not that I agree with OP, but you have to assess your personal limitations
here :)
I suppose I might as well back this up with a link:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/13/smoke-vs-snack-why-ediblemarijuana-is-stronger-than-smoking.html

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[]xtrialatty 4 points 1 day ago
Jay talked about smoking blunts during the day, not eating pot brownies. The
impact of smoking is pretty much immediate. If you look at the link I provided, it
drew the clear distinction between smoking and eating. That is why I used the
phrase "smoked weed" in my post.

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[]cross_mod -1 points 22 hours ago
The post wasn't made by you. This is the quote you pulled from OP to refute him:
if anyone ever done pot, you know you don't feel it as soon as you take it.

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[]xtrialatty 1 point 21 hours ago
Yes, but the OP was talking about Jay & Adnan, and the testimony was that they
were smoking, not eating.

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[]cross_mod 0 points 20 hours ago

you will not give up, this is really dumb. The OP was suggesting that Jay may have
slipped him something to make him ridiculously high, which is a theory I don't
believe anyway. 1. Doubtful that Jay would have acknowledged that during
testimony if it were true. 2. Hard to slip a "blunt" to someone and have him smoke
it without knowing it. 3. And if all speculation needs to be confirmed by something
JAY said during testimony.. well.. we are all kind of shit up a creek.
tldr.. you will argue anything to death.

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[]whitenoise2323giant rat-eating frog -7 points 1 day ago*
Being a lawyer and all shouldn't you be able to spot when someone is obviously
and blatantly lying?
Edit: ok, that wasn't well received. Maybe a better way to put it is "Did you notice
that OP is a fake user catfishing people and creating the impression of an extreme
and unreasonable "innocent" opinion. How come you're responding seriously to
their ridiculous post?"

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[]MagjeeSteppin Out 6 points 1 day ago
I can only guess at Jays motive and how he gained access to Hae after school on
January 13, 1999. But I know he did have a motive and did gain access to her
because there is proof of these: Hae is dead.
I think the author is throwing himself under the roof here.

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[]Seamus_DuncanKevin Urick: Hammer of Justice 2 points 1 day ago
That sentence is magnificent.
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[]Shadynasty111[S] 3 points 1 day ago
yes and yet the Feds turn a blind eyeball

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 3 points 1 day ago
we have our murderer right there. hae is dead and that is all I need to know the
wrong boy is jailed and jay did something

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[]MagjeeSteppin Out 3 points 1 day ago
I stopped reading the article right there.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 3 points 1 day ago*
you are missing out on some key points

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[]itisntfairDana Chivvis Fan 10 points 1 day ago

Quota's been met this week on the whole Hae was involved with drugs big time and
was murdered as a result conspiracy
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[]Arcadia2014 8 points 1 day ago
For a guy who was fasting that day, Adnan sure had a lot of meals.
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[]Shadynasty111[S] 4 points 1 day ago
being a good Muslim makes you hungry!

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[]bluekanga 4 points 1 day ago
Came in tired after long drive - this post and thread made my day - haven't
stopped laughing - thx:)

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 4 points 1 day ago
:) now rest your weary head and feet. oh child things will get brighter. oh child
things will get easier

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[]dWakawakaHae Fan 3 points 1 day ago


We love you, shady-nasty!

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[]4325B 1 point 1 day ago
It's actually pronounced Sha-dynasty.

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[]dWakawakaHae Fan 2 points 1 day ago
I thought it could be either, but okay.

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[]HeyZuesHChrist 3 points 1 day ago
alright guys, this is big, really big. if anyone ever done pot, you know you don't
feel it as soon as you take it.
Yes, you do.

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[]csom_1991 6 points 1 day ago
"and who knows what kind of date-rape drug he actually bought to slip Adnan at
McDonalds?"
Just because Rabia and Saad hinted that Bilal and Adnan had a sexual relationship
(in which Adnan eventually rebuked Bilal's sexual advances), it does not mean that
he was having sex with every guy he knows. Maybe he was just looking to

experiment with Bilal -- stop trying to besmirch his character by hinting at multiple
man on man relationships.
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[]dougalougaldog 2 points 1 day ago
Wait .... what? Can you point to where Rabia and Saad hinted this?

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[]dWakawakaHae Fan 1 point 1 day ago
Who are we to judge?

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 1 point 1 day ago*
sex with Bilal is not the same as sex with Jay, im sure Adnan could tell you about it
if he weren't wrongedly in jail

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[]bacchys1066 1 point 1 day ago
Smoking pot produces an almost instant effect. Sometimes new users don't know
they are high, which usually produces hilarity in the more experienced users with
them.

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[]Equidae2 3 points 1 day ago


Adnan wasn't a new user.

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[]bacchys1066 0 points 1 day ago
I know.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago
but like the article says, how can Adnan be so wasted within 20 minutes? i never
touched the stuff but the article has good points, in your experience is it possible to
be slumped on the ground in 20 minutes of smoking?

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[]mkesubway 2 points 1 day ago
Sure.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago*
knowed it. guess this means a lot of people are gonna be sorry after the evidence
gets out

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[]bacchys1066 1 point 1 day ago
Depends on potency and how much you smoke. Plus, it could have been laced. I
used to buy this stuff that was soaked in opium oil. That would have you slumped
over in under 20 minutes.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago
opium oil? that sounds walnuts. did opium get addicting? i thought pot made hyper
and laughing a lot

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[]bacchys1066 3 points 1 day ago
I don't think it got addicting. I stopped abruptly when I joined the Army, and while
I missed it I didn't have any problems with not using.
Different strains of pot have different effects, and people react differently. It used
to make me lethargic and spaced out.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago
thanx for your insides. was the opioids common in your area? sounds very high up
the drug pyramid and not your usual small time stuff.

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[]bacchys1066 2 points 1 day ago
Opioids were common, but that particular supply of pot soaked in opium oil wasn't.
At least, I never knew anyone but my dealer to have it.
There was a lot of greens and love boat (PCP) back in rhe day, along with coke,
acid, heroin, shrooms...pretty much anything was available if you were interested.
There were also a lot of folks like I think Jay was: someone who subsidized his own
use by picking it up for friends and acquaintances.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago
wow i cannot imagine what the days were like when pcp were rampant. you could
be right but it sounded like jay the family business ran darker

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[]Mustanggertrude 3 points 1 day ago
what if Jay acted alone and threw Adnan under the roof?
Is this the expression? I thought it was "under the bus". Isn't "under the roof"
like...the house? I feel threw off the roof. But under doesn't seem possible.

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[]orangetheorychaos 7 points 1 day ago
Isn't "under the roof" like...the house?

Haha
You can throw someone out of a house, so one could technically throw someone in
it as well?

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[]TheFraulineS 6 points 1 day ago
"under roofies" maybe?

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 4 points 1 day ago
not bad!! a Jay reference

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 3 points 1 day ago
oh I thought it was under the roof

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[]8_126-7 2 points 1 day ago
Nice to hear a plausible theory-kind of a relief in a way now that Serial Dynasty's
gone off the deep end. I've always felt that Jay as the murderer is the most likely
scenario. It fits most succinctly with the fewest moving parts, and has the most
definitive correlation between cell calls and plausible behavior. Fitting Adnan into

the time frame is a little tight to be credulous. No one saw him catch that ride with
Hae, and the window between Asia and track practice would leave him pretty
amped up, but neither the track coach nor Asia described him this way. I don't buy
the theory of the drug deal, or at least there's no real evidence pointing in that
direction. How or why it happened we can only speculate, but I think there's a
rationale to believe Jay had some deep seated hatred of Hae and Adnan. Its
doubtful that he planned the murder but a chance encounter led him to act out on
his rage that ultimately led to her death.
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[]Shadynasty111[S] 3 points 1 day ago
yes of course. i concordgrape, Jay probably did have a deep seated hatred for Hae
and Adnan as you said, maybe it had to do with his status and him just being a
hateful person. either way him rage murdering Hae fits the timeline better so it's
kind of dumb this is being ignored by the Feds.

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[]CreusetController 0 points 1 day ago
The OP is not being direct with you. Reread it as pastiche, through Shady tinted
glasses.

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[]DetectiveTableTapIs it NOT? 3 points 1 day ago
pastiche
I am still surprised so many serious replies OP is getting

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[]CreusetController 2 points 1 day ago
me too. maybe the levels of hyperbole around here are giving them easy
camouflage.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago
you must b a wumin

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[]CreusetController 0 points 1 day ago
eggs, is that you?

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago*
wumin are strange always nonstop talk about ovaries- s'ok i sure u have a few
more good years before the well dry up :)

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[]CreusetController 0 points 1 day ago
No ovaries here man. Can't you smell my testosterone from over there Shady?

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 0 points 1 day ago*
what cabbagery and garfunkel is this! a transgender on reddit I never heard of it.
all i can smell at the moment are my mother's balusashi in the oven. would you like
something baking in the oven too

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[]CreusetController 2 points 1 day ago
So sweet of you to go hunting in the transgender subreddits,
https://www.reddit.com/r/ask_transgender/comments/3h1t8j/transition_process/c
u73bwi
Presumably you are trying to get informed so you can offer support right? Not just
digging around looking for shit to stir or fish to troll for. Because if it was the latter,
then perhaps I should warn you, this fish ain't biting. Tell your ma she should try a
fry instead of a bake. On the other hand, wasting your time seems to be a favourite
hobby of yours, so knock yourself out little one. Maybe do a little work on your
back story first though, it's more fun for me if you appear to have just a little bit of
consistency... <waves goodbye>

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 1 point 1 day ago*
that was a very long thing to read. if u must knowed truth commenting with you
simpry reminded me of the topic of transgendered so I look up a sub and had a
random question pop into my dome really not too much to read into hehe. pliss
give me reason to care for your fun not mine? no sense maker
i knowed you was gonna look at my comment history

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[]lawdooder 1 point 1 day ago
If you step back and look at all of the puzzle pieces, it becomes clear that Jay had
the inclination for murder (see stabbing joke), the drug-dealing skills that would
expose him to the tools of the trade (see the cord & stun gun that were supposedly
used here and in the Jon Benet case).
I'll note that generally speaking one of the requirements prior to dealing harder
drugs (they call this MAGNET_TIME) in Baltimore was to murder someone who was
destined to not be a drug dealer. Adnan likely was Jay's sponsor, providing the
phone, car and girl for his initiation into the game. An existing gang member's girl
is a really good target, because it shows trust on both sides - the gang member
can get a new girl easily b/c of gang connections, and the initiate devleops trust
because the gang doesn't hurt him for doing it.
Now I know that you probably are skeptical that Adnan was deeper in the drug
game than Jay, but this fits with most of the evidence we have. Most people dn't
realize that the largest and best organized street gangs are run by more wealthy
Islamic families (insallah is actually a common word for cocaine in Baltimore, and
when you soak weed in opium you call this an Islamic Baptism).
It also explains why Adnan and Jay say that they aren't friends - Jay never made it
into the gang, because he got caught (one of the initiation requirements is that you
don't get caught). So, they weren't friends, bc unless ur in the gang you aren't a
friend.
So Adnan was willing to sponsor to Jay, and the question is commonly raised "Why
didn't Adnan take the stand at trial, accuse Jay, and generally act as though Jay
was totallyh innocent?" Well obviously he was helping him into the inner circle, he
isn't going to rat out his gang & their initiation ritual.
Now did Adnan help with the burial? I don't think so, bc its part of the initiation
that you gotta do that shit yourself. The fact that Jay revealed all these details later
means that Jay is the one who should be scared of Adnan, et al. This is why there
is so much backlash to the Intercept interview, becaues it reveals too much.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 2 points 1 day ago
wait wait wait. first before we go further i have to know what you think about jon
benet case. the media is all different like amanda knox. i find it possible an intruder
coulda grabbed and used any old paper lying around to write a note in bad try to
cover up tracks

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[]lawdooder 2 points 1 day ago
Well I think that witch hunt should have been focused more on local ski resorts,
supposedly alot of times these cases can be resolved by asking the guys who work
in the back kitchens or valets, they usually know alot about the local murders.
But Jon Benet is tough, Baseball bat was likely involved, so have to think about
nation's pastime, who stands to benefit from this sort of thing. Also, I think that
the pineapple express is a common term for the sort of random gang initiation that
might be required for wealthy moguls to get access to black diamond ski courses
ordinarily off limits because of heavy metal contamination (which of course, Jon
Ramsey was highly involved iwth due to his computer companies).
So may have been a "pineapple express" the intruder note being a coded series of
messages to Jon Ramsey indicating that the initiation was complete and that ski
trip to a "foreign" land was going to happen.

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[]Shadynasty111[S] 3 points 1 day ago
no no no it was the easter bunny. WRONG

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[]Englishblue -2 points 1 day ago
I've always believed that one of jays cronies killed Hae because she stumbled into
someth ng bad, that that person threatened jay to make it go away, and jay
realized he had adnans phone and car. It explains all the calls to jays friends, the
insistence on the call at 3:40, he subsequent behavior and "anything that makes
Adnan innocent doesn't involve me."
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[]Shadynasty111[S] 3 points 1 day ago
if this isn't proof i don't know what is. #freeadnan

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[]Englishblue -1 points 1 day ago
Of course it's not proof, so the mockery makes no sense. This is a theory, and
speculation.

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[]dWakawakaHae Fan 2 points 1 day ago
I'm RICK JAMES!!!

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