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    Inject Neutralizer To CDU OVHD Wash Water

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    The document discusses using overhead sour water as wash water for a crude overhead system. It asks if injecting neutralizer into the wash water line could help reduce corrosion in the crude column overhead system. Several experts respond that it depends on factors like the current injection point design, how well the water wash is designed and operated, and what type of "neutralizer" is being used. They provide considerations around keeping wash water and neutralizer injections separate when possible to address corrosion downstream if chlorides pass the water wash. Consulting additive and metallurgical experts is recommended to determine the appropriate treatment.

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    The document discusses using overhead sour water as wash water for a crude overhead system. It asks if injecting neutralizer into the wash water line could help reduce corrosion in the crude column overhead system. Several experts respond that it depends on factors like the current injection point design, how well the water wash is designed and operated, and what type of "neutralizer" is being used. They provide considerations around keeping wash water and neutralizer injections separate when possible to address corrosion downstream if chlorides pass the water wash. Consulting additive and metallurgical experts is recommended to determine the appropriate treatment.

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    The document discusses using overhead sour water as wash water for a crude overhead system. It asks if injecting neutralizer into the wash water line could help reduce corrosion in the crude column overhead system. Several experts respond that it depends on factors like the current injection point design, how well the water wash is designed and operated, and what type of "neutralizer" is being used. They provide considerations around keeping wash water and neutralizer injections separate when possible to address corrosion downstream if chlorides pass the water wash. Consulting additive and metallurgical experts is recommended to determine the appropriate treatment.

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    The document discusses using overhead sour water as wash water for a crude overhead system. It asks if injecting neutralizer into the wash water line could help reduce corrosion in the crude column overhead system. Several experts respond that it depends on factors like the current injection point design, how well the water wash is designed and operated, and what type of "neutralizer" is being used. They provide considerations around keeping wash water and neutralizer injections separate when possible to address corrosion downstream if chlorides pass the water wash. Consulting additive and metallurgical experts is recommended to determine the appropriate treatment.

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    We are currently using overhead sour water as wash water for the
    crude overhead system which is injected just before fin fan coolers.
    Neutraliser is injected into the vapor line before water injection
    point. Will injecting neutraliser in wash water line help reduce Browse our
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    07/03/2013 A: Eugen Goudsmith, Nijhuis Industries, [email protected] Download the
    In principle you would not need extra neutraliser in the WW to control corrosion. Salt current
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    02/01/2013 A: Eric Vetters, ProCorr Consulting Services, [email protected]
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    Whether it helps or not depends on how well your current injection point is designed
    right now.
    and how well your water wash is designed and operated. There is nothing inherently
    better about injecting neutralizer with water wash and there are some risks.
    When you inject your corrosion control chemicals with the water wash, your whole Renew your
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    If the neutralizer is all in the wash water and vapor phase chlorides get past the water print edition
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    downstream of the water wash. For this reason, I prefer to keep the water wash and
    neutralizer injections separate when at all possible. If neutralizer has been injected
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    issues at secondary dewpoints. If neutralizer injection rate is high enough, there are Details for
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    perfect solutions to the issue of where to inject neutralizer.

    02/01/2013 A: Alan Goelzer, Jacobs Consultancy, [email protected]


    It is not clear from the question what is the "neutralizer" being employed in overhead
    condenser system for atmospheric tower within CDU+VDU and whether the overhead
    condenser system inclding the air cooler condenser is 'gravity flow' from 'tower top
    piping U' to associated overhead accumulator. Download
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    "filming amine" chemicals should be injected directly into the overhead line from the Media Details
    tower via an injector in tee just after the U-bend. for 2021
    Ammonia being employed as a "neutralizer" can be spiked into the sour water
    recirculated from the accumulator sour water boot to wash water injector(s) in tee(s)
    ahead of the overhead air cooler bays-----provided that the ammonia is injected via a
    controllable metering pump and pH of sour water is routinely monitored.

    02/01/2013 A: keith bowers, B and B Consulting, [email protected]


    I suggest you consult with your additive supplier. The type of corrosion and cause is
    often different 'in the column' and in different sections of the 'overhead system'.
    Different and /or additional chemicals may be necessary to completely mitigate
    corrosion and fouling.

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