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KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008

ROLE OF SUBLORD
IN PREDICTION OF EVENTS
-Rajendra Nimje,IAS
President KP Astrologers Forum ,
India

KP REVOLVES AROUND
SUBLORD

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Prof. Krishnamurti found sublord - a


portion of constellation based on
proportional division of constellations span
on Dasa system. It is this narrow area in
zodiac ranging from 0deg 46 min and 40 sec
to 2 deg 13 min and 20 sec which plays a
dominant role in deciding the planetary or
cuspal signification.

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STAR- CONSTELLATION SPACE


Zodiac divided in 12 Rasis 360 Deg
Each Rasi Span is 30 Degrees. First Rasi Aries or
Mesha and the last Pisces or Meena
Stellar division of Zodiac 27 Constellations
First Constellation is Ashwini and the Last
Rewati.
Span of each Constellation is 13 Deg 20 Min of
the Zodiac Space

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SUBLORD

Each Constellation is 13Deg20Min in Zodiac


It is further divided in the proportion of
Vimshottari Dasa Sequence Starts from Owner
of the Constellation
This division is called the sub division or Sub in
Krishnamurthy Paddhati
The divisions are unequal in size. e.g Ketus sub
will occupy (13 deg 20 min * 7/120) space of
Zodiac. Venus 13deg20min* 20/120

SUBLORDS IN KETUS CONSTELLATION IN ARIES


Sign

Sign lord

Constellation Star lord

Sub-lord

From- To
(Deg,Min,Sec)

Aries- Mesha

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

Ketu

00.0.00-00.46.40

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

Venus

0:46:40-3:00:00

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

Sun

3:00:00-3:40:00

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

moon

3:40:00-4:46:40

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

mars

4:46:40-5:33:20

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

Rahu

5:33:20-7:33:20

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

Jupiter

7:33.20-9:20:00

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

Saturn

9:20:00-11:26:40

Aries

Mars

Ashwini

Ketu

Mercury

11:26:40-13:20:00

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HOUSE DIVISION & CUSP

KP uses Placidus division of houses - Cusps


Cusp starting Deg, Min Sec is important for deciding
the matters of that Cusp.
Cusp will fall in a Rasi , Constellation and a SUB e.g.
Ascendant at 21deg58min01sec
Means Aries Rasi Owned by Mars Constellations is
Bharani owned by Venus and the SUBLORD area is
ruled by SATURN
The Cuspal sublord decides whether to give results
and to what extent about the Cusp

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CUSPAL SUBLORD IS THE KING

Main house Cuspal SUBLORD if signify the


main or auxiliary houses then the matter will
fructify in the Dasa Bhuki and antara of the
significators of these cusps
e.g 7th Cusp is the main cusp for marriage.
7th Cuspal Sublord if signify 7or 2 or 11 then the
marriage is promised for the native
7th Cuspal sublord if not at all signifying 7 or 2 or
11 then the person will remain unmarried.

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TRIPLETS CASE

Triplets are born in Vijayawada, Andhra Pradesh


on 22nd June 2003 at
Triplet I at 10.10AM
Triplet II at 10.16 AM
Triplet III at 10.26 AM
The Ascendant is in Leo Rasi and Ketu Star for all
the three triplets
As per traditional astrology

Leo owner Sun in 10th and Constellation Ketu in 3rd


Promises Good Longevity to all triplets
Sun and Saturn are conjoined in Gemini giving long life
to the baby as Saturn the karaka for longevity is a
conjoining with life giver sun in the house of longevity.

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TRIPLET- I
Krishnamurthy Padhdhati - Ascendant sublord should connect to the houses
of longevity 1, 3, or 8 favorably. The lagna sublord should not connect to
maraka on badhaka houses else the longevity will be short/middle
Here the ascendant is Leo
8deg 4 min and the sublord is
Jupiter which is placed in the
12th house i.e. house for
moksha. Jupiter is traversing in
the constellation of Mercury
which is owning untenanted
maraka house 2nd (Virgo)
Mercury is aspected by Mars
who is on the cusp of Maraka
house 7th and owns badhaka
house 9th for this triplet.

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TRIPLET II
The Ascendant sublord is Saturn
in constellation of Rahu who is
posited in the badhaka house .
Saturn however is placed in the
Gemini and is aspecting lagna
and eighth houses. Rahu gives
results of its Starlord Sun which is
ascendant lord and posited in 10th.
Rahu also signifies its rasi lord
Venus which is owning 3 and 10
and posited in 10th. Saturn or
Rahu is not signifying 2nd house or
7th house and hence the maraka
is not operated by the ascendant
sublord.
The 6th cuspal sublord of this triplet is Venus. Venus in star of moon and sub of
sun. Venus is owner of 3 and 10 and posited in 10th. Moon is owning 12th and
posited in 8th. There is no connection of 6 or ascendant.

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TRIPLET III
Ascendant Sublord is Mercury is
placed in 10th house owning 11th
and second which is a maraka
house. Mercury is placed in
constellation of moon which is
placed in 8th house owning 12th
house. There is no immediate
danger to the life of this triplet as
badhaka is not connected in this
case. Moreover 8th house is
playing a role of providing more
longevity to the baby.

Sixth sublord which is Mars in the constellation and sub of Rahu. Any connectivity
between sixth house and ascendant makes the native weaker and susceptible to
disease. Here Mars is placed in sixth house aspecting ascendant, in constellation
of Rahu which is strong significator of ascendant through its starlord sun. Rahu in
sub of Saturn gives indication on the nature of disease. This triplet is crippled and
could not walk properly till today.

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CUSPAL SUBLORD DECIDES THE


QUANTUM

The benefits are enjoyed by the client only when the


cuspal sub lord promises. Analogy - In order to fetch
the water in bucket from well, Water must be in the
well first
How Much?- Analogy Whether water is a bucket full
or tumbler full or only a glass full.
Quantum is also decided by Cuspal SUBLORD.
Cuspal Sub if signifies main and auxiliary houses all
then the full quantum else proportionate

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QUANTUM OF PROMISE

e. g. 2nd Cusp decides the Finance for the Chart


Natal/Horary
2nd Sub signifies 2, 6 and 11 all and not connected
to 1 and 5 then Native is a Billionaire.
2nd Sub Signify 2 and 6 or 2 and 11 = Millionaire
2nd Sub Signify 2 or 6 or 11 Reasonable finance
2nd Sub Signify 2 and 6 and 12 then Earning and
Spending
2nd Sub Signify 1, 5, 10 only then Hand to Mouth

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KP RULE FOR PLANETARY


SIGNIFICATION
Planet is the Source, Constellation Lord by
ownership and placement shows the Result and
SUB LORD is the decider of the event
The results are good if the sub is connecting to
houses harmonious to the matter
Results are bad if sub is connecting to negative
houses to the matter

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PLANETS UNDER DICTATE OF ITS


SUB

Planet by position or ownership of houses will


give results- Traditional Astrology
Planet will give the result of constellation lord by
placement and ownership of houses.
e. g In a period of a planet if it indicates 4 and 11
house and Venus connection by Dasa Lord and
its constellation lord Vehicle is promised.
Sub of the Dasa Lord if connected to 4 or 11 then
Native will possess a Vehicle
Sub of Dasa Lord if connected to 3 or 12 then the
Native will part with the Vehicle

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GOVERNMENT SURVIVAL IN TRUST VOTE

CASE FOR PLANETARY SUBS ROLE

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DBA -RAHU/VEN/SAT

Dasa lord Rahu conj.


With Mer in 6th.
There are planets in Rahu
constellation
(sat,moon,mer and ketu)
hence Rahu is weak
significator of 3,
mer(3,12,9)
Rahus const. lord is Ven8th = trouble but good for
longevity. It is owning
untenanted lagna , hence
strong for longevity.
-- Rahu is in the Sub of
moon the lord of 10th
house. It is placed in 8th
house but not connected
with maraka and badhaka.
Full Longevity

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BHUKTI - VENUS

Bhukti lord Venus


signifies Ascendant and
eight both longevity houses.
It is in constellation of Mars
owning tenanted maraka
house 7th and untenanted
maraka house 2nd. Though
signifies danger but placed
in 8th indicates it will ward
off.
Venus is in sub of Ketu ,
Ketu is placed on the
Ascendant Cusp
harmonizing with Longevity
to the Chart. Ketu in sign of
Venus placed in 8th.

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ANTARA- SATURN

Saturn is the sublord , the


planet which is in 8th which
increases longevity. Sat is
strong to give results as no
one in its star. Sat is owning 4
and 5 strongly. Sat in star of
Rahu good for longevity but
connecting to Mars 2,7 and 8.
Sublord of Saturn is Venus
which is in 8th and owning
lagna , hence Saturn antara
is good for longevity. Mars
will try to pose a threat to the
longevity but Venus the sub
will protect the life of the
Govt.

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POSITIVE & NEGATIVE TOGETHER


If the cuspal sublord signifies Main or auxiliary
houses then the matter regarding the main house
will fructify
If CSL is Signifying negative houses then the
matter will not fructify
If CSL signify both Harmonious and NonHarmonious houses then?

Both

the events happen

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BOTH- IN RESPECTIVE SUB


PERIODS
e.

g . 7th Sublord signifies 7 and 6th ; 2nd and 1st


then marriage and divorce/seperation both are
stored for the native.
In the period/sub-period of planet which signify
2, 7 he will marry and in the sub-period of 1, 6
there will be separation. (Naresh Mani case)
If 10th sub indicate 10, 9 and 6 and 5 both
getting and leaving the job is indicated
Period/sub-period of 10, 6 native will join and
in the period/sub-period of 9 and 5 he will
leave.

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MIXED RESULTS
In some cases we get mixed results when CSL
signify positive and negative houses.
e.g. 2nd CSL signifying 2 & 1 ; 6 & 5 will give
money to native but not to the extent which is
would have got if CSL connects only to 2 and 6

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CSL & DBA


CSL promise and DBA operation both needed for
fructification of the event
If CSL is promising but the DBA are over before
the birth or will operate after the Longevity then
the matter will not fructify
CSL not promising but DBA strongly indicate the
matter (Common Case for making errors)Matter will not fructify

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NEW AREAS FOR THE SUB


Sublord of one house say Venus is also sublord for
other houses. Does it become significator of other
houses?
e.g CSL of 2nd is Venus is also sub of 12th and 1st.
Does Venus connects 2 and 12 houses. i.e. the
native will earn and spend?

The

matter needs more research and will


be included in new areas of research at
KPAF

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SUBS STARLORD
KP rule is planet being source, constellation lord gives
result and sub is the decider. If planets sub agrees
then only we can confirm the results of planet and its
constellation lord.
However, New Four Step Theory considers sub as not
decider but significator. Moreover, Planets Subs
Starlord is also considered as Significator.

The

matter is already undergoing research at


KPAF

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PLANET IN SELF CONSTELLATION


If Planet is in Self Constellation then one school
of thought replaces Const. lord by its sub and sub
by sub-sub
e.g if Venus is in Venus constellation and
Mercury sub and Mars sub-sub then it is
Venus-Mer-Mar i..e Venus in star of Mercury in
sub of Mars.
If the Constellation and sub is same then replace
sub by sub-sub

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SUB DECIDING RPS?


Ruling Planets is the magic stick in
Krishnamurthy Padhdhati
How to Choose if there are many Ruling Planets?
RPs which are in favorable sub to the matter will
give results. RPs which are in sub negating the
houses under consideration or even neutral
houses will not give results.

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SUBS ROLE IN HORARY


If Cuspal Subs star is Retrograde planet then in
Horary the matter will not fructify.
However, if sub is retrograde then?

Matter

does fructify when the retrogression is over


and the planet comes back to same deg in direct
motion.
If Sub is RETRO and has no planets in its
constellation or it is in self constellation then the
matter will not fructify. (Ref. A&A Sept.1970

P.19)

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SHALL WE GO TO SUB-SUB?
New theories like cuspal interlinks depends on
Cuspal sub-sub.
However in pure application of KP the SUB IS
THE KING AND SUPREME AUTHORITY to
decide the Capability and Quantity in case of
Cuspal sub and allowing event to happen in case
of Planetary Sub. It also helps in RP filtration
which is the master key of KP

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