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Igromania ID
identifier for a video game at the website Igromania.ru

Associated item	Igromania (Q4197757)
Applicable "stated in" value	Igromania (Q4197757)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	video game (Q7889), video game compilation (Q16070115) or group of video games often treated as a singular game (Q116779426)
Allowed values	^[1-9]\d{0,5}$ (numeric string in the range from 1 to 999999)
Example	The Last of Us Part II (Q27950674) → 23766 Death Stranding (Q24666782) → 21791 Ghost of Tsushima (Q42564798) → 28874 God of War (Q18345138) → 21787
Source	https://www.igromania.ru/games/
Formatter URL	https://www.igromania.ru/game/$1/-/
Related to country	Russia (Q159) (See 356 others)
See also	Igromania company ID (P9832), Igromania series ID (P9835)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P6827 Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 9,644 Main statement 9,208 out of 383,320 (2% complete) 95.5% of uses Qualifier 5 <0.1% of uses Reference 431 4.5% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Type “video game (Q7889), video game compilation (Q16070115), group of video games often treated as a singular game (Q116779426)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “video game (Q7889), video game compilation (Q16070115), group of video games often treated as a singular game (Q116779426)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Type Q7889, Q16070115, Q116779426, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Format “^[1-9]\d{0,5}$”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Scope is as reference (Q54828450), as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Entity types

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): video game series (Q7058673), video game developer (Q210167), human (Q5), video game publisher (Q1137109)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL

Label required in languages: ru: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: ru (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6827#Label in 'ru' language, search, SPARQL

This property is being used by: ru:Шаблон:Внешние ссылки Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Discussion

format as a regular expression

@Kirilloparma: after your edits User:1Veertje/identifierInput.js script began to truncate Igromania identifiers down to one symbol (I copypasted https://www.igromania.ru/game/415/Konung_Legends_of_the_North.html and got this). It might be script bug, still, is it really necessary to make regexps that precise? Are you planning to update them as soon as Igromania would add 383321st game to database? (: Facenapalm (talk) 16:50, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@Facenapalm: Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will try these days to figure out what the problem is. At first glance, yes, it seems that there may be a problem in the gadget's script, as for some reason it does not work well with regexes with a certain range. For instance, a similar situation happens with OpenCritic outlet ID (P11223) (range from 17 to 999) property where the gadget strangely selects only some numbers and doesn't take into account other numbers allowed in the regex. By the way maybe the regex itself or its format is wrong? Although I checked it several times and everything seems to be fine.

> is it really necessary to make regexps that precise?

Specifically for this property I think so, because by significantly reducing the range we will be able to keep track of situations like this, where we have an identifier added by mistake. Also keeping a numeric string from 1 to 999999 doesn't make much sense, precisely because Igromania stopped adding new games to the database from 383320 onwards.

> Are you planning to update them as soon as Igromania would add 383321st game to database?

Yes, I plan to update the regex as soon as Igromania starts adding new games to the database. However here it will all depend on how often games will be added. If only 5 games will be added in a month, we will update the regex up to 10 numbers, so this time the last allowed number in the regex will be 383330. Kirilloparma (talk) 05:20, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

@Kirilloparma, I assume arranging the regex other way around might solve the problem: e.g. ^...|[12]\d{5}|[1-9]\d{1,4}|[1-9]$ instead of ^[1-9]|[1-9]\d{1,4}|[12]\d{5}|...$. My assumption is that the script uses these regexes to search for ID, and ignores ^ and $ for that purpose. In this case your regex would always match one digit only. When there're several expressions separated by |, engine goes left-to-right, and stops checking at the first match. So you should always go from the most specific to the most common. Facenapalm (talk) 10:17, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

From what I could gather from glancing at the sources, the issues are likely caused by using one flavor of regular expressions in a regular expression engine meant for a different flavor. Infrastruktur (talk) 13:10, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

@Facenapalm: > I assume arranging the regex other way around might solve the problem

Yes, let's try a rearrangement and see if that helps us.

> My assumption is that the script uses these regexes to search for ID, and ignores ^ and $ for that purpose. In this case your regex would always match one digit only. When there're several expressions separated by |, engine goes left-to-right, and stops checking at the first match.

That's the way it is. The script in our case picks up only the first regex (example: ([1-9]|[1-9]\d{1,4}|[12]\d{5}|3[0-7]\d{4}|38[0-2]\d{3}|383[0-2]\d{2}|3833[01]\d|383320) and completely ignores the others, which is odd, since I've seen property like P6150 where such problems are not observed. I think that here it is better to try to directly contact the creator of this script, to inquire why this happens, or as another option, maybe try to create a complex constraint, which can help us track violations? Not sure, to be honest. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 06:13, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Update @Facenapalm: Well, as far as I can see, the rearranging still didn't help, so I think the only option for now, though not the best one, is to use the complex constraint (here it is; result) to track down such cases. I've restored the previous regex so that we can use identifierInput script again. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 02:57, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Facenapalm (talk) 10:34, 10 July 2023 (UTC)