Wikidata:Property proposal/reference template for this work

reference template for this work

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Not done

Description	The reference template that matches to this work or part of it.
Represents	Wikimedia template (Q11266439) (actually a new subclass Wikimedia reference template)
Data type	Item
Domain	I think publication (Q732577)?
Allowed values	items with instance of Wikimedia template (Q11266439)/the new instance
Example 1	Auctarium ad Synopsim Methodicam Stirpium Horti Reg. Taurinensis (Q5711347) → species:Template:Allioni, 1774
Example 2	A revision of the Solanum elaeagnifolium clade (Elaeagnifolium clade; subgenus Leptostemonum, Solanaceae). (Q42258482) → species:Template:Knapp et al., 2017
Example 3	A revision of the Old World Black Nightshades (Morelloid clade of Solanum L., Solanaceae) (Q56119440) → species:Template:Särkinen et al., 2018

Motivation

This property (possibly with a converse used on template items) would connect works and existing reference templates that are used to represent them. Currently some items (e.g. examples 2 and 3 above) make them directly connected, but it seems like a poor representation of what is going on. It also cannot be used whenever both a template and a page (i.e. Auctarium ad Synopsim Methodicam Stirpium Horti Reg. Taurinensis (Q5711347)), or more than one template (i.e. templates for volumes or other specific parts) exist. Since template has topic (P1423) doesn't seem to work, I'm proposing a new property. Circeus (talk) 05:24, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Oppose There are wikis that doesn't use this kind of "particular use" templates (a template for a single reference) and instead use more generic reference templates like "Cite Web", "Cite Book"... with parameters. --Zerabat (talk) 13:56, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- And yet there is Category:Specific-source templates (Q7104987), and I'm sure I can find a fair number of cross-wiki items there (I mean, I only needed less than one minute to find Template:Cite NewGrove2001 (Q14407303)). In Fr:, you can even have more than one template connecting these (in different form) through the reference: namespace, e.g. Q4378679 is the work for templates Q22776598 and currently unitemized fr:Modèle:Grimal. Circeus (talk) 14:16, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- If some wikis don't use it, this doesn't matter. --- Jura 07:02, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm not sure how the fact that "some wikis" work in a way and otehrs in a different way is supposed to be relevant. Circeus (talk) 17:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Question how about topic's main template (P1424) ? --- Jura 17:50, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I was under the clear impression that topic's main template (P1424) is intended for navigational templates (it does say "topic", whereas this treats the object as a reference). Furthermore, it's also plausible for a work to have both a navigational and a source template. Circeus (talk) 22:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good point. Reading the English description of that template, that seems correct. I tend to add template has topic (P1423) to items for templates for references (which seems consistent with its description) and then @Pasleim:'s bot adds topic's main template (P1424) to the item for the work (or website). --- Jura 07:01, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:26, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]