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Additional Source

I added a tiny bit of information cited in Peter Way, Common Labor: Workers and the Digging of North American Canals 1780-1860. His original source was Michael Beame, Peasants and Power: the Whiteboy Movements and their Control in Pre-Famine Ireland. I assume this latter book would be a great place to start if anyone is really interested in expanding this stub. --Brian Z 17:24, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

MA Thesis (Univ of Essex, 1979)

I researched the Whiteboys in 1978-79 and prepared an MA thesis on them while at the Unversity of Essex. I have added (and will continue to add) substantial chunks of the thesis to this article. The research came from articles in local newspapers, English monthlies of the period, and primary materials held in the Belfast and Dublin libraries as well as the British Library and the Public Records Office. I did not include footnotes because it would be too cumbersome, but if you're interested you can contact me at war@gusrichardson.com. -- W. Augustus (Gus) Richardson.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluenoser3 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 23 April 2006‎

Politics

wouldn't you consider a paragraph on whiteboyism and poltics? I am not an expert on the issue, so I venture to humbly submit a few suggestions. First, I would think it worthwhile to note that Whiteboys was a purely apolitical and areligious phenomenon (e.g. raiding clergy of both religions). Second, maybe it makes sense to note that when whiteboyism spread to Ulster it evolved into sectarian organisations, later labelled Orangemen and Defenders. Third, one might ponder upon a remark that some Irish nationalists and some historians (e.g. Tom Garvin) label Irish Republican Army "descendants of the Whiteboys" and see some modern conflicts, like the Orange vs Green contest or the Tan War distant echoes of whiteboyism. Dd1495 (talk) 21:05, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Black foot Irish

I think you need to consider the Black foot Irish which became shortened to Black Irish, this group began in the 1600's after the plantation. The White Irish were catholics who supported their own and fought against the protestants, anyway they could, in trying to drive them out. The Black foot Irish were catholics who associated with the protestants. This division in the catholic population resulted in ongoing trouble between the white and the black, which moved with them to North America. The most notable encounter on North American soil is the Murder of the Donnelly's, from Tipperary, Ireland, who were murdered by the White Irish in Lucan, Ontario, Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.204.215.124 (talk) 16:10, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]