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This page in a nutshell: Anecdotes, trivia, and unreleased film information from IMDb do not meet the reliable sources guideline. The IMDb should be used only as a tertiary source for hard data on released films.

Citing the Internet Movie Database (IMDb) on Wikipedia raises questions if such references do not follow the important points given in the reliable sources guideline. This is because much of the database content in IMDb is contributed by users, not by experts. Plus, the editorial oversight by IMDb staff is minimal and not stated on the site, so you don't know what was edited and what was not.

The following essay addresses the usage of IMDb as a reference source, where its weaknesses and strengths lie with regard to content and policy, and the resulting ways you can and can't use it in Wikipedia's articles.

Appropriate uses

IMDb content that is acceptable to reference on Wikipedia includes:

The writing credits marked with "WGA" that are supplied directly by the Writers Guild of America (where applicable). For released films, citations are typically not necessary because the film itself is implied to be the primary source.
The MPA ratings reasons, where they appear, that are supplied directly by the Motion Picture Association.

Disputed uses

IMDb content which is in dispute about whether it is appropriate to reference on Wikipedia:

Released films only: Sections such as the cast list, character names, the crew lists, release dates, company credits, awards, soundtrack listing, filming locations, technical specs, alternate titles, running times, and rating certifications.

Inappropriate uses

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IMDb content inappropriate to reference on Wikipedia:

Any potentially contentious material about living persons (BLPs).
Cast lists, etc. for films and television programming that are still in development or production, and have yet to premiere. (These could change at any time.)
The user comments for each title (this includes user reviews and ratings), which are pure user-generated content (WP:UGC).
Sections written in wiki-style with minimal editorial control. Those would be the FAQs for particular titles (not the database FAQ), the parental guides, and the plot synopses (not to be confused with the plot outlines or plot summaries, which are subject to editorial control).
Newsgroup reviews, which are archived Usenet postings.
The trivia and goofs sections that are based on user submissions.
The recommendations.
While not "citing", do not use interwiki links to create links to IMDb that look like a wikilink, like James Acaster: Repertoire. This goes against the WP:EL guideline. In the external links section of an article the templates {{IMDb name}} and {{IMDb title}} are commonly used. The latter gives James Acaster: Repertoire at IMDb, for example.

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-{{nutshell|Anecdotes, trivia, and unreleased film information from [[IMDb]] do not meet the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] guideline. The [[IMDb]] should only be used as a [[tertiary source]] for "hard data" on released films.}}
+{{nutshell|Anecdotes, trivia, and unreleased film information from [[IMDb]] do not meet the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] guideline. The [[IMDb]] should be used only as a [[tertiary source]] for hard data on released films.}}
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-'''Citing the [[Internet Movie Database]]''' ('''IMDb''') on Wikipedia raises questions with regard to adherence to [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources]], as much of its database content is user-generated with minimal editoral controls. The following essay addresses the usage of the IMDb as a reference source, where its weaknesses and strengths lie with regard to content and policy, and the consequent role that it can play in Wikipedia's articles.
+'''Citing the [[Internet Movie Database]]''' ('''IMDb''') on Wikipedia raises questions if such references do not follow the important points given in the [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] guideline. This is because much of the database content in IMDb is [[WP:USERG|contributed by users]], not by experts. Plus, the editorial oversight by IMDb staff is minimal and not stated on the site, so you don't know what was edited and what was not.
+The following essay addresses the usage of IMDb as a reference source, where its weaknesses and strengths lie with regard to content and policy, and the resulting ways you can and can't use it in Wikipedia's articles.
 ==Appropriate uses ==
-IMDb content which is acceptable to reference on Wikipedia include:
+IMDb content that is acceptable to reference on Wikipedia includes:
-# The writing credits marked with "WGA" that are supplied directly by the [[Writers Guild of America]] (where applicable).
+# The [[WGA screenwriting credit system|writing credits marked with "WGA"]] that are supplied directly by the [[Writers Guild of America]] (where applicable). For released films, citations are typically not necessary because the film itself is implied to be the primary source.
-# The [[MPAA ratings]] reasons, where they appear, that are supplied directly by the [[Motion Picture Association of America]].
+# The [[MPA ratings]] reasons, where they appear, that are supplied directly by the [[Motion Picture Association]].
 ==Disputed uses ==
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 ==Inappropriate uses ==
+{{Shortcut|WP:IMDB/BLP}}
 IMDb content inappropriate to reference on Wikipedia:
 #Any potentially contentious material about [[WP:Biographies of living persons|living persons]] (BLPs).
-#Cast lists, etc. for films and television programming that are still in development or production, and have yet to premiere.
+#Cast lists, etc. for films and television programming that are still in development or production, and have yet to premiere. ''(These could change at any time.)''
+#The user comments for each title (this includes user reviews and ratings), which are pure user-generated content ([[WP:UGC]]).
-#The IMDb message boards, which are inherently not reliable.
-#The user comments for each title (this includes user reviews and ratings), which are pure user-generated content.
 #Sections written in wiki-style with minimal editorial control. Those would be the FAQs for particular titles (not the database FAQ), the parental guides, and the plot synopses (not to be confused with the plot outlines or plot summaries, which are subject to editorial control).
-#Newsgroup reviews, which are archived Usenet postings.
+#Newsgroup reviews, which are archived [[Usenet]] postings.
 #The trivia and goofs sections that are based on user submissions.
 #The recommendations.
+#While not "citing", do not use [[Help:Interwiki linking|interwiki links]] to create links to IMDb that ''look'' like a wikilink, like [[imdbtitle:7818686|James Acaster: Repertoire]]. This goes against the [[WP:EL]] guideline. In the external links section of an article the templates {{tl|IMDb name}} and {{tl|IMDb title}} are commonly used. The latter gives {{imdb title|7818686|James Acaster: Repertoire}}, for example.
+==See also==
+* [[Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites]] ([[WP:ELP]]) – further info on ''when'' to use IMDb (e.g., as an [[WP:External link|External link]], not as a source)
+* [[Template:BLP IMDb refimprove]]
+* [[Template:BLP IMDb-only refimprove]]
+* [[Template:Media IMDb refimprove]]