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I suspect that Mondoweiss is not a reliable source of information, however I am not sure about the official criteria. Can someone help me please? No significant editing intended, I just want to change the sources. The Terrible Mutant Hamster (talk) 13:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC) holocaust should be in probaganda section or brainwash to children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.137.6.173 (talk) 20:22, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add honorary degree: 1983 Fairfield University Doctor of Humane Letters Mjoecups (talk) 23:36, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://thinkspace.fairfield.edu/post/146831365927/remembering-elie-wiesel Mjoecups (talk) 23:47, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 23:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He Was Not Agnostic - He Was a Believer and Advocate of Theism

Here we have Mr. Wiesel included among several lists of Agnostics Category:American agnostics, Category:Jewish_agnostics, Category:Romanian_agnostics, but this is unfair. The man doesn't belong with these people. The man never lost confidence in his Creator. Although there are many sources and examples that can be referred to, perhaps the best is from Mr. Wiesel's own memoirs. I will post an excerpt from the memoir that Mr. Wiesel published in 1995, All Rivers Run to the Sea: Memoirs, Vol. I, 1928–1969, Chapter 2. (Elie Wiesel bibliography):

There is a passage in Night-recounting the hanging of a young Jewish boy-that has given rise to an interpretation bordering on blasphemy. Theorists of the idea that "God is dead" have used my words unfairly as justification of their rejection of faith. But if Nietzsche could cry out to the old man in the forest that God is dead, the Jew in me cannot. I have never renounced my faith in God. I have risen against His justice, protested His silence and sometimes His absence, but my anger rises up within faith and not outside it. I admit that this is hardly an original position. It is part of Jewish tradition. But in these matters I have never sought originality. On the contrary, I have always aspired to follow in the footsteps of my father and those who went before him. Moreover, the texts cite many occasions when prophets and sages rebelled against the lack of divine interference in human affairs during times of persecution. Abraham and Moses, Jeremiah and Rebbe Levi- Yitzhak of Berdichev teach us that it is permissible for man to accuse God, provided it be done in the name of faith in God. If that hurts, so be it. Sometimes we must accept the pain of faith so as not to lose it. And if that makes the tragedy of the believer more devastating than that of the nonbeliever, so be it. To proclaim one's faith within the barbed wire of Auschwitz may well represent a double tragedy, of the believer and his Creator alike.

All Rivers Run to the Sea: Memoirs, Vol. I, 1928–1969, ELIE WIESEL (1995) CHAPTER 2 Darkness pg. 84

Thus it is not fair to have categorized this very pious man, who kept kosher and prayed regularly, in such a manner. Perhaps more appropriate would be to include him here Category:Jewish religious writers. Editors please consider removing these inappropriate categories, from this biography. This ostensibly borders on disrespect to do otherwise. 172.250.237.36 (talk) 12:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-Reverting elaborately explained edits without an explanation is unhelpful. Even worse, it is rather rude. If I took the time to explain why I thought [[:File:Elie Wiesel 1998.jpg]] to be superior to [[:File:Elie Wiesel 2012 Shankbone.JPG]], I believe I deserved a similar explanation from the dissenting party. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elie_Wiesel&diff=872146221&oldid=872146191 This kind of summary] made me wonder: "So, what is your point?" [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 20:28, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
-:Rude shmude. Please explain why <s>the only color picture of Wiesel,</s> and the most recent, should be replaced with '''''yet another''''' taken at about the same time period as others already in the article. s the party wishing to make a replacement, the onus is on '''''you''''' to provide a coherent explanation and gather a consensus. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 20:30, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
-::The article currently contains 0 photographs of Wiesel from the 1990s. In contrast, it contains three from the later half of the 2000s. The article also contains 2 other color pictures. Are we looking at the same page? There is no requirement that the infobox image should be the most recent one; [[MOS:LEADIMAGE]] stipulates it should be a representative one. I have explained why the 1998 portrait is of higher quality: it is of a higher resolution and with less things going on in the background, with the subject's face in focus. And I do not mind discussing. What I mind is having my explained edits reverted without an explanation, as if I were a common vandal. [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 20:43, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::Please see the edit box on my talk page. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 20:49, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::Struck the bit about the only color pic -- obviously I was completely wrong in my memory of the page.  And, no, there is no requirement that the infobox image be the most recent; indeed I have argued that better images replace more recent ones.  However, "better" doesn't necessarily mean "higher resolution", it means "a better portrayal of what the subject looks or looked like", and in this case, in my opinion, the current image does that job better.{{parabr}}Why not simply add the image you prefer to the article somewhere? [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 20:56, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
-::::Thank you for explaining your position more clearly. I must admit I was becoming slightly annoyed by the brevity! :) Resolution is an important criterium when I judge how well an image portrays a person, but not the only one. I also expect the lead image in a biography to be from the subject's "prime" years. In this case, to be fair, that would probably be late 1980s, when he received the Nobel Prize. Our only photograph from that period, however, is rather poor. Another reason I prefer the 1998 image to the 2012 one is that the former shows a man still vigorous and smiling, the fighter we would expect to see, while the latter depicts him already rather tired. I think we can do him more justice :) [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 21:23, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
-::::Yes, can we please use version B? It's a better image for the infobox, he looks much livelier. [[User:Sro23|Sro23]] ([[User talk:Sro23|talk]]) 05:41, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::::[[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]], can you really ignore [[User:Sro23|Sro23]]'s enthusiastic plea? :D [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 22:35, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
-::::::I can't ignore a consensus, and when we have one, I'll go with the flow, but we're not there yet. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 23:55, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::::::In that case, I'll summon the other top contributors to this article to weigh in. Those active in this month are [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]], [[User:Light show|Light show]], [[User:Denisarona|Denisarona]], [[User:LOL|LOL]], [[User:Sluzzelin|Sluzzelin]], [[User:DMacks|DMacks]], and [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]. What say you? [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 00:08, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-::::::::That's OK with me, although I see no reason to limit it to the last month, so from [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Elie_Wiesel here], I'm adding [[User:GabrielF]], [[User:DBaba]], [[User:Yourai]], [[User:Khoikhoi]], [[User:Jayjg]], [[User:The Thing That Should Not Be]], [[User:Chuunen Baka]], [[User:Lawilkin2]], [[User:Harej]], [[User:FlakJacqueline]], [[User:Yoninah]], [[User:SubirGrewal]], [[User:Rmhines]], [[User:Wikidemon]], [[User:Larryjhs]], and [[User:Squiddy]]. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 00:19, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::::::::I thought it would be a bit too unrealistic to expect a response from users who have not been active for 12 years, but I guess it does not hurt to try :D [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 00:28, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-:(Responding to ping) I have a slight yet distinct preference for the b&w image (i.e. Elie Wiesel 1998.jpg). Greater resolution, no distracting truncated "Marriott Rewards" in the background. Clutter in the background  ''can'' add to the narrative quality of a topic's image (see for example my replacing a cropped image of Harlan Ellison in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=848554857&oldid=848552474&title=Harlan_Ellison this diff]), but I don't see that being the case here.
-:Strong caveat: This is merely my untrained intuition speaking, and I have no knowledge of or experience with WP's policies on images. ---[[User:Sluzzelin|Sluzzelin]] [[User talk:Sluzzelin|<small>talk</small>]] 00:42, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-[[File:ELIE WIESEL (5112581267).jpg|thumb|B. Color version of the photograph above.]]
-::Thank you, [[User:Sluzzelin|Sluzzelin]]. I think intuition is all we are asking for here. By the way, there exists a [https://www.flickr.com/photos/kingkongphoto/5112581267/in/photolist-8BcB2a-8MMjh4-8MMjhT-7jLNu1-JBJt9R color version] of the (B) image as well, if that makes any difference. I have asked the photographer if he would release that one too. [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 00:52, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::I'd be very interested in seeing it. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 00:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-::::You can see it [https://www.flickr.com/photos/kingkongphoto/5112581267/in/photolist-8BcB2a-8MMjh4-8MMjhT-7jLNu1-JBJt9R here]. Hopefully it will soon be on the Commons as well. [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 01:33, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::::I like that much better than the b&w version, probably even better than the current infobox image.  Maybe there's a solution in the offing? [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 01:35, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-::::::I'm fine with the color version in the infobox, as long as we can keep the current image somewhere in the article. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 15:01, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::::::Hi, I saw myself pinged here. I prefer the image with the red background, because it looks more like the way we remember Elie Wiesel from his later years, when he won major honors. The b/w image doesn't look like him at all... [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 16:41, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-::::::::I like B colorized. A looks a little schlubby for my infobox tastes. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 18:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-::Late to the discussion, but I also prefer B colorized. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Jayjg|<span style="color: DarkGreen;">(talk)</span>]]</small></sup> 21:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
-:::::::Who cares how the guy looks?  He looked the way he looked at any particular time in his life.  Is Wikipedia some kind of PR agency for the subjects of articles now?[[User:RRskaReb|<span style="background-color: cyan; color: red">RRskaReb</span>]] [[User talk:RRskaReb|talk]] 03:13, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
-::::::::*<small>'''For anyone using the admin-colorizing script, please note that despipte the similarities of the background on their sig, RRekaReb is not an admin.  They refuse to change the color. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 22:13, 4 September 2019 (UTC)'''</small>
+I suspect that Mondoweiss is not a reliable source of information, however I am not sure about the official criteria. Can someone help me please? No significant editing intended, I just want to change the sources. [[User:The Terrible Mutant Hamster|The Terrible Mutant Hamster]] ([[User talk:The Terrible Mutant Hamster|talk]]) 13:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
-==Romanian-run death camps==
+holocaust should be in probaganda section or brainwash to children.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.137.6.173|83.137.6.173]] ([[User talk:83.137.6.173#top|talk]]) 20:22, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-[[User:GPintea|GPintea]] ([[User talk:GPintea|talk]]) 13:24, 21 May 2019 (UTC)There was never-ever such a thing as Romanian-run death camps, not in Romania-Old Kingdom, not even in recently (then) re-conquered Basarabia. That, if we apply the right definition, a death-camp = a camp designed for planned mass murder, for implementation of the Holocaust. The only camp in Basarabia, was just a prison, where Jews were imprisoned, some for purely ethnic reasons, (and that was definitely a bad thing), but not only. Some were imprisoned after being rightly or wrongly accused of having commmitted acts of violence against  Romanian Army (see the shooting of soldiers en route to the front in Iasi  and the blowing up of Romanian Army HQ, in Oct 22 1941 after the official capitulation, in which 68 military were killed, the majority of them high ranking officers anmong which a German general. The attack was  orchestrated by NKVD who apparently planted false evidence that the responsible people for the attack were local Jews. Followed the Odessa Massacre, where Jews hostages were killed (another bad thing, but not all the hostages were Jews). Regretably people died in that Basarabia camp, innocent people too, but it never was by planned mass execution like in other dead camps, not by gas, not by shooting or other means. The greatest number of victims were after a typhus epidemics, before the dismantling of the camp in 1943, a disease for which at the time there was no cure. It was the only concentration camp in the world closed during the war. The allegation that 280 000 Jews were killed in Romanian-run death camps is completely untrue and absolutely ridiculous. At that time, there was no such number of Jews left in the whole of Basarabia, Transnistria and Odessa together. Everybody from Wiesel Commission 2003 (financed by Romanian authorities, to add insult to injury), seems to conveniently forget the Stalin's purges and deportation of the majority of local Jews, immediately after he got Bassarabia, by the infamous Ribbentrop - Molotov pact. Besides, the Holocaust, as a dramatic event, was thouroughly investigated, in minute detail, and the chance that Elie Wiesel, not a historian himself, would "discover" sixty years after the war an additional 280 000 victims and previously unrecorded Romanian-run death camps is a statistic impossibility. This was rather a personal score settling for his own suffering in Sighet, his home town, for which he blamed the Romanians all his life, oonsciously or unconsciously omitting the fact that the city was under Hungarian, not Romanian administration anymore, according to the same Ribbentrop-Molotov pact. All these infamous accusation are in fact an effect of the Holocaust Industry phenomenon, Romania being forced to pay many millions to the in "compensation", in 2004, to be admitted as a honorary member of European Community. "Compensation" for the fact that Romanian territory was a Jewish sanctuary during the war. And despite the fact that the much-demonized Antonescu regime actively saved at least 425 000 Jews, flatly refusing to surrender them to German authority to be deported and killed. Antonescu himself was subjected to humiliations, having for instance to travel to Berlin twice in one month in 1940, to explain again why the Romanian Jews could not be deported.  Despite Jews having in Romania, for the whole duration of the war, political representation, continous active cultural life (Jewish schools open, Jewish-authors plays on stage all the time, Jewish businesses open), despite the Antonescu regime granting them exemption from military service and even pensions for all Jewish people that worked at least 5 years in Romania between 1919-1939, even if that person did not apply for Romanian citizenship. Despite that after losing the North Transylvania by R-M pact, Romanian cacelaries worked day and night for weeks on end, issuing blank passports, so that people from the lost territory could glue a photograph, write a name and come South to safety. Interesting also how Romanian detractors multiplied in exponential fashion after 1990-s, when there were less and less living witnesses that owed their life to the afore-mentioned acts and deeds. Proof again that truly no good action is left unpunished. Otherwise I fully subscribe to condemning the removal of the "criticism" section of this article. I do have compassion for Ellie Wiesel and his ordeal, bur nothing gives him the right of pointing an accusing finger in the wrong direction. Calling  a people and a country who helped and saved "criminal", painting deliberately the white in black, is an abomination in the eyes of God ! It surprises and it pains us to see such gigantesque blunders promoted by such smart people as the Jewish people. You lose support, credibility and allies by this, Jewish brothers ! And you need them today more than anytime in the past [[User:GPintea|GPintea]] ([[User talk:GPintea|talk]]) 13:24, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
-:Sorry, does this relate to some text in this article? [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Jayjg|<span style="color: DarkGreen;">(talk)</span>]]</small></sup> 16:36, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
+== Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2023 ==
-::GPintea-You may want to present this information in an article somewhere if you haven't, though with references and in an objective manner.  Would be interested to know more about those prisoners you mentioned.  Were any of them Communists and/or Soviet agents?  Also, I agree if part of what you're saying is that the Soviet version of anything cannot be trusted.  Also, the Allies in general were eager to capitalize on anything that would show the Nazis in a more negative light. The immediate post-war era in Europe was highly charged politically. They wanted to make sure that movement was stamped out forever, and to justify their war against Germany and her allies.[[User:RRskaReb|<span style="background-color: cyan; color: red">RRskaReb</span>]] [[User talk:RRskaReb|talk]] 03:22, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
-::::*<small>'''For anyone using the admin-colorizing script, please note that despipte the similarities of the background on their sig, RRekaReb is not an admin.  They refuse to change the color. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 22:14, 4 September 2019 (UTC)'''</small>
-:::Wall of text.  Please insert paragraph breaks. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 03:37, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
+{{edit semi-protected|Elie Wiesel|answered=yes}}
-== HRF ==
+Add honorary degree:
+Fairfield University Doctor of Humane Letters [[User:Mjoecups|Mjoecups]] ([[User talk:Mjoecups|talk]]) 23:36, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
+:https://thinkspace.fairfield.edu/post/146831365927/remembering-elie-wiesel [[User:Mjoecups|Mjoecups]] ([[User talk:Mjoecups|talk]]) 23:47, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
-This article mentions Wiesel as a co-founder, and yet the foundation article doesn’t mention him.  A trivial point, but the org seems a bit controversial in itself (to read the talk page, not always the best measure of an org, I will stipulate, and I have zero other knowledge of their record), so maybe Wiesel wouldn’t suffer much to lose that credit.
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+== He Was Not Agnostic - He Was a Believer and Advocate of Theism ==
-It is stated that he “actively supported HRF for his entire life,” or some such.  And yet founded in 2006.  I will attempt to rephrase.  [[User:Ragityman|Ragity]] ([[User talk:Ragityman|talk]]) 23:18, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
+Here we have Mr. Wiesel included among several lists of Agnostics [[:Category:American agnostics]], [[:Category:Jewish_agnostics]], [[:Category:Romanian_agnostics]], but this is unfair. The man doesn't belong with these people. The man never lost confidence in his Creator. Although there are many sources and examples that can be referred to, perhaps the best is from Mr. Wiesel's own memoirs. I will post an excerpt from the memoir that Mr. Wiesel published in 1995, ''All Rivers Run to the Sea: Memoirs, Vol. I, 1928–1969'', Chapter 2. ([[Elie Wiesel bibliography]]):
-:Notes 7 & 8 should support the “founder” allegation, but 8 only mentions him as a member/supporter.  I cannot access 7 due to an overprotective browser.  Maybe someone with a real computer can take a look.
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-:I’m hoping that someone knowledgeable will have input on the Human Rights Foundation talkpage, as well as here.  [[User:Ragityman|Ragity]] ([[User talk:Ragityman|talk]]) 23:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
+There is a passage in Night-recounting the hanging of a young Jewish boy-that has given rise to an interpretation bordering on blasphemy. Theorists of the idea that "God is dead" have used my words unfairly as justification of their rejection of faith. But if Nietzsche could cry out to the old man in the forest that God is dead, the Jew in me cannot. '''''I have never renounced my faith in God.''''' I have risen against His justice, protested His silence and sometimes His absence, but my anger rises up within faith and not outside it. I admit that this is hardly an original position. It is part of Jewish tradition. But in these matters I have never sought originality. On the contrary, I have always aspired to follow in the footsteps of my father and those who went before him. Moreover, the texts cite many occasions when prophets and sages rebelled against the lack of divine interference in human affairs during times of persecution. Abraham and Moses, Jeremiah and Rebbe Levi- Yitzhak of Berdichev teach us that it is permissible for man to accuse God, provided it be done in the name of faith in God. If that hurts, so be it. Sometimes we must accept the pain of faith so as not to lose it. And if that makes the tragedy of the believer more devastating than that of the nonbeliever, so be it. To proclaim one's faith within the barbed wire of Auschwitz may well represent a double tragedy, of the believer and his Creator alike.
+''All Rivers Run to the Sea: Memoirs, Vol. I, 1928–1969, ELIE WIESEL (1995) CHAPTER 2 Darkness pg. 84''}}Thus it is not fair to have categorized this very pious man, who kept kosher and prayed regularly, in such a manner. Perhaps more appropriate would be to include him here [[:Category:Jewish religious writers]]. Editors please consider removing these inappropriate categories, from this biography. This ostensibly borders on disrespect to do otherwise.  [[Special:Contributions/172.250.237.36|172.250.237.36]] ([[User talk:172.250.237.36|talk]]) 12:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)