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"The spokesman said the country name change became effective from the moment the letter was received." [[User:Jeffhba|Jeffhba]] ([[User talk:Jeffhba|talk]]) 16:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
"The spokesman said the country name change became effective from the moment the letter was received." [[User:Jeffhba|Jeffhba]] ([[User talk:Jeffhba|talk]]) 16:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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::I think we'll have to wait to see what usage reliable English language sources use. There are plenty of countries whose common English names are not the same as their official names, e.g. Germany. [[User:Sizeofint|Sizeofint]] ([[User talk:Sizeofint|talk]]) 16:11, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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Requested move 20 January 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved per WP:SNOW (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 19:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]



TurkeyTürkiye – The country has changed its English name to Türkiye. 2600:6C5A:657F:D1F5:48D3:2853:9745:8762 (talk) 03:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Won't happen as everyone will keep referring to them as Turkey! Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 03:27, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RfC on the official name of the country in the lede

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: There's consensus for Option 1. Among the cited arguments is that the country's name has not been officially changed at the UN. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 17:04, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]




Which of the following two should be the article's lede sentence?

  1. Turkey (Template:Lang-tr [ˈtyɾcije]), officially the Republic of Turkey (Template:Lang-tr [ˈtyɾcije dʒumˈhuːɾijeti] )
  2. Turkey (Template:Lang-tr [ˈtyɾcije]), officially the Republic of Türkiye (Template:Lang-tr [ˈtyɾcije dʒumˈhuːɾijeti] )

Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 19:38, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Poll

  • Option 2. The most official name in English is "Türkiye", not "Turkey". WP:COMMONNAME doesn't apply here because we're discussing what we should describe the official name as, not what we should title or describe the country as in the text. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 19:38, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 1 We do not base wikipedia articles off the statements of Turkish state media. The UN still lists Turkey's name as "Turkey" and it is still WP:COMMONNAME so I suggest Option 1 unless there is some sort of official law mandating the change.
    There is still no official act of the Grand National Assembly mandating this name change. Erdoğan can flaunt his nationalist agenda all he wants, but I am only willing to change my answer if there is a specific law for changing the name. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:37, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 2 The Turkish government is using the name "Republic of Türkiye" and the article should be in line with other articles such as the Ivory Coast with "Republic of Côte d'Ivoire" even if is not the common English name of the country.--Kappasi (talk) 17:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 2 for neutrality, so that both spellings of the name (Turkey, Türkiye) are represented. Khestwol (talk) 17:51, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 1 It’s misleading to say this is a new “official” name. What has happened is much more limited than that. This is Erdogan’s circular of 3 December and this is Hürriyet Daily News’s coverage of it. What the circular actually says is that “Made in Türkiye” should be stamped on exports - that’s the focus of the circular. As far as other usage is concerned, it says “necessary sensitivity will be shown on the use of the phrase ‘Türkiye’ instead of phrases such as ‘Turkey,’ ‘Turkei,’ ‘Turquie’ etc.”. Erdogan doesn’t under the constitution have the power to determine an “official name” for the country and the circular doesn’t claim that this is the official name in English. Some of the Turkish media have got very excited about this and there’s plenty of exaggerated references to an “official name” but I don’t believe any such media coverage is WP:RS for the legal position, which is this is about, per WP:RSCONTEXT. DeCausa (talk) 18:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Türkiye is used by most government departments now on their official English language websites, not just for products made in Turkey.Kappasi (talk) Kappasi (talk) 20:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    that doesn’t make it the “official name” and there are departments that don’t use it. DeCausa (talk) 20:51, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 1 The official name of the country has not changed. It is still Türkiye Cumhuriyeti. We translate it by its components the way these are translated in common usage: Türkiye → "Turkey" Cumhuriyet → "Republic". The current government has chosen to promote "Turkiye" as translation for Türkiye, and hence "Republic of Türkiye" for Türkiye Cumhuriyeti, but that does not affect the rendering of the official name in WP based on common usage. –Austronesier (talk) 18:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 1. As far as I can tell, Erdogan did not declare "Republic of Türkiye" to be the country's official name. His memo expressed his wish that "Türkiye" be used as the brand of the nation in official publications and communications, mentioning "Made in Türkiye" in particular. No mention of what the official name in English should be. Many sources covering this in the following months have made it clear that this is an ongoing process, including by getting the UN to change the way it refers to the country. No source presented so far has said that this has actually happened. The UN is still using "Republic of Turkey".
    Major Turkish governmental institutions, including its national legislature and highest court, are still prominently using "Turkey", with the Constitutional Court using the full "Republic of Turkey". English language news media is continuing to use "Republic of Turkey" over "of "Türkiye" by about 5:1, according to Google News hits over the past month. Even Turkey's executive branch does not seem to have settled on its final choice. As of February, Erdogan was considering dropping the diacritic mark from the u.
    Nothing official has happened when it comes to "Republic of Türkiye" yet. We'll know when it's official because the whole Turkish government, other nations, intergovernmental organizations, and news media will shift. That has not happened. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:01, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 1 for now. As I read from some sources (here, here and here, for instance), Turkey is registering the new name at the UN. I would switch to Option 2 when this registration will become official. P1221 (talk) 07:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why would “registering” the name at the UN make a difference? The UN doesn’t have a function as an “official name” registry. Might as well check the registration at the International Poultry Council. DeCausa (talk) 12:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The UN does have this function actually, assigned to UNGEGN. Even without this, a submission to any international body, in general, would be a useful sign that the name change was serious. In line with that, I note that the International Poultry Council still refers to the country as "Turkey". CMD (talk) 13:20, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They may well be the last hold out for the old name…UNGEGN is an “experts forum” for cartographic consistency, as I understand it. I don’t think a country can “register” their preferences with them. Basically, what Turkey has done has put in their request for what goes on the name plaque that they sit behind. DeCausa (talk) 13:31, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Some of NATO and Organisation of Turkic States seems to use this. Beshogur (talk) 13:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Türkiye is already mentioned, and is the third word of the first sentence, in the article currently, and in both options. The issue isn’t about mentioning it, it’s whether, in addition to that, it should also be stated the “official name” is “Republic of Türkiye”. DeCausa (talk) 18:30, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes "Türkiye Cumhuriyeti" Moxy- 20:45, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Turkey ..., officially the Republic of Turkey or Türkiye ... not sure for infobox. Maybe Republic of Turkey / Türkiye. Beshogur (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 1 Per other users, this dictat was not a constitutional change nor a law, and seems to only apply to official organizations. Not only that, it doesn't seem to catch on outside of Turkish governmental media outlets, which seem to be obliged to follow this decree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ido66667 (talkcontribs) 20:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 2 The Official name is Republic of Türkiye so we should use it.Yousef Raz (talk) 22:59, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 1 Until such time as it is clear that international bodies - such as the UN - have adopted this form. Pincrete (talk) 15:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Has been done...just waiting on UN [4] Moxy- 21:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that source doesn’t say it has been done. In fact, all the sources to date seem to say that Turkey is planning to do it with no confirmation that it has been done yet, eg this which said back in January that it was going to be done “in the coming weeks”. DeCausa (talk) 22:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
yup done all over just not at the UN yet.....Why are we waiting on the UN...is it the only source we can use? What is wrong with the constitution? Seem odd for us to wait on one single source when we have many that are much more relevent. Moxy- 22:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It’s not in the constitution and no one’s using it much. DeCausa (talk) 22:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't knew that Turkey's Turkish constitution talked about English name of its name. I don't think so. Also Organization of Turkic States and some NATO bodies started to use the name "Türkiye". Beshogur (talk) 14:59, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. DeCausa (talk) 15:15, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Other proposal

I think there’s an Option 3 to reflect that Erdoğan has launched a campaign to have Türkiye adopted in foreign language use even if it isn’t actually an “official name” change. I suggest adding a footnote to the words “…officially the Republic of Turkey…” in the first sentence which says:

References

  1. ^ "'Say Türkiye' campaign to promote changing country's int'l name starts". Hürriyet Daily News. 17 February 2022. Retrieved 15 April 2022.
  2. ^ Soylu, Ragip (17 January 2022). "Turkey to register its new name Türkiye to UN in coming weeks". Middle East Eye. Retrieved 11 April 2022.

This, I think, more accurately reflects that this is about a campaign to encourage a change of usage rather than an “official” name change, which overstates what’s happening. DeCausa (talk) 12:44, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's unnecessary and UNDUE, IMHO. Turkey#Name is a more fitting place for that, not a footnote in the lead. Some1 (talk) 01:53, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 May 2022

Turkiye not turkey Rename per government of turkiye order 2600:8805:AA06:9100:389A:E3CF:781B:A66F (talk) 20:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Shadow4dark (talk) 20:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 May 2022

No genocides have been recorded during the end years of the ottoman times. Only speculation from Armenian hate extremists. Their own president had admitted it. Another note is that there was officialy only 1.3 million armenians around the 1910s when there was speculation of only 1.5 million deaths thereafter. Complete contradiction. Russian embassy also denies any Deaths. Due to this completely disgusting 'SPECULATION' of ' multiple genocides' this editor must not ever touch a Wikipedia site again. Change must be seen or else Wikipedia will be exposed as a no reliable joke of a website 115.70.218.93 (talk) 01:51, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Please provide reliable sources for the changes you want to make. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 01:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Source with the picture of evident (A document in Russia's official archives). https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/russian-archives-refute-armenian-genocide-claims-9192242 31.223.48.163 (talk) 00:54, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Republic of Türkiye" has been registered

See UNTERM--Mike Rohsopht (talk) 14:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done, mentioned it in the lede. Khestwol (talk) 09:48, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move the article to Türkiye

The United Nations has formally accepted that it will rename the country to Türkiye on behalf of president Erdogans request.Jay 66483 (talk) 11:36, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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We already mention Türkiye in the lede now. However, it is too early for the move. We have to wait for secondary sources to start using the term more commonly. Khestwol (talk) 11:59, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It shouldn't move due to commonname. Beshogur (talk) 13:20, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not going to happen, it’s the same case as Ivory Coast (Cote D’Ivoire). Turkey is the commonname for the country in English by far. Gonzaloges (talk) 15:46, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 June 2022

Change all instances of "Turkey" to "Türkiye" as this is now the international name of the country, per: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/un-registers-turkiye-as-new-country-name-to-replace-turkey/2603492 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/turkey-nation-name-change-turkiye/ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2/un-registers-turkiye-as-new-country-name-for-turkey Nickjthay (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: see WP:COMMONNAME Cannolis (talk) 13:49, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Turkiye, not tutkey anymore

Please 2A02:908:13B7:7720:5CF3:AB9F:FDE8:21FA (talk) 13:54, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add to Category: Country Name Changes

Since the name was officially changed, should this page be added to Category: Country Name Changes? The category page itself doesn't have any criteria for inclusion, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't go there (unless the category is only for situations that resulted in a page move, but from the context of the supercategories, that doesn't seem to be the case). Areferencetopeterkropotkins1892booktheconquestofbread (talk) 15:15, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 June 2022 (2)

The name of this page should be changed from Turkey to Türkiye, or at least Turkiye without the umlaut, given the following news: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2/un-registers-turkiye-as-new-country-name-for-turkey

"The spokesman said the country name change became effective from the moment the letter was received." Jeffhba (talk) 16:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: This is actually a controversial edit, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. Please open a new section here and start a discussion. See discussion above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think we'll have to wait to see what usage reliable English language sources use. There are plenty of countries whose common English names are not the same as their official names, e.g. Germany. Sizeofint (talk) 16:11, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]