User talk:Extraordinary Writ

By far the funniest and most clever Wikipedia page I randomly stumbled on. Kudos. The fish genuinely made me laugh out loud — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumtimz I B Learnin (talk • contribs) 07:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Question from Beezerwashingbeard (20:59, 4 October 2024)

Hello sacred mentor. Is your primary language English? --Beezerwashingbeard (talk) 20:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello Beezerwashingbeard. Yes, I speak English and am happy to answer any English-language questions you might have. I notice you've edited the Danish Wikipedia; if you'd prefer to ask questions in Danish, you could try leaving a message at da:Hjælp:Nybegynderforum. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

That's quite alright. English is fine for me. Beezerwashingbeard (talk) 23:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from TheRealRayieYT (04:45, 7 October 2024)

One time I tried to edit a town page in South Australia to include the town’s primary school and they deleted my changes the town is Rendelsham and it was done under my old account RayieYT or RayieYT2 or something --TheRealRayieYT (talk) 04:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello TheRealRayieYT. It looks like there was a technical error that caused that edit to be accidentally undone. You're welcome to add it back if you like. I'd encourage you to cite a source when you add information: you can read about how to do that on this page, but feel free to ask if you have any questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from GreenHillsOfAfrica (13:54, 7 October 2024)

Hello,

I'm currently editing Tunisia national football team, and I've noticed that previous contributors have added far too much info surrounding random figures in the team's history without justifying the inclusion of this information. Essentially, in the words of one of my professors, "telling me everything that's unimportant." Would this constitute WP:FLUFF, or WP:CRUFT? --GreenHillsOfAfrica (talk) 13:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello GreenHillsOfAfrica. I think it'd probably be fine to trim the main article down a bit, especially since the History of the Tunisia national football team sub-article already documents all the details exhaustively. That said, people sometimes feel strongly about including these sorts of minor facts (one man's cruft is another man's treasure), so be prepared to discuss on the talk page if someone disagrees. You might want to look at other articles on national football teams to see how they strike this balance, although some may be even worse :) Let me know if you have any other questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Saad Akbar (15:10, 14 October 2024)

Hello i want to know if there are any methods or tools to find references and citations related to an article? --Saad Akbar (talk) 15:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello Saad Akbar. It really depends on the topic: sometimes a simple Google search will be enough; sometimes advanced searches with Google Books, Google Scholar, and/or the Internet Archive can help; sometimes there's no substitute for physical books at a library. We do require that sources be reliable, but beyond that there's a lot of flexibility in what you can use. Let me know if there's a specific article you're trying to find sources for. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:57, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Access to Content of deleted edits

There are 4 deletions on the page of Banu Qurayza, all of which correspond to major edits. The reasons listed on the deletions is that they violate copywrite. The page itself is implicated in an ANI outcome (Incident archive 1159: Kaalakaa on Islam-related topics) where a consensus of uninvolved found that the user @Kaalakaa maintained a collection of NPOV abused pages on Islam related topics, including this page.

I would like to request a copy of the deleted content (3 most recent deletions), all of which were found violating RD1: Copywrite. I would like to salvage the knowledge and assess if portions of it remain relevant. If so, remedy it of its violation to be reintroduced, as long as its citations are of acceptable standard. Bro The Man (talk) 08:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

thank you for your time and consideration. Bro The Man (talk) 08:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello Bro The Man. For legal reasons, copyrighted material cannot be restored. You can, however, look at the sources the material was copied from, which seem to have been (in order) [1], [2], and [3]. These do not seem to be reliable secondary sources, so I would not suggest using them in this article. But whatever sources you use, the content should be written in your own words, not copied. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:02, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Ofcourse, I appreciate you making me aware of that fact. Taking your advice on board, I would still like to read the content that was removed to learn from the page to understand what was happening. Of course if it was blatant copy paste, obviously it's a violation. But I would like to know what was reference and what was written purely for the concepts that were stitched together.

I've reviewed the sources that you've shared and I agree that [1] and [3] are not up to par, where the first lacks referencing despite being an official publication with flowery language and the other being overtly negatively biased. I tracked down [2] and it seems to be written by a subject matter debater, yet also lacks references. Bro The Man (talk) 11:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

It looks like you've resolved this with ComplexRational, but just to be clear: the additions were taken word-for-word from the sources I linked, so even if I could restore them to you (and I can't), you wouldn't find them any more useful than the sources themselves. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification! That was helpful, I appreciate your help :) Bro The Man (talk) 08:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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Jay Clayton (attorney)

Extraordinary Writ, it is nice to meet you. I noticed your participation in WP:Law and am asking for your assistance with a request I have posted on the Talk page for Jay Clayton (attorney). As I have a COI with Mr. Clayton, I can't modify the article myself. A different responding editor had some input about the references; he took issue with the exact wording of some of the content. I'd be willing to revise my suggested language based on your input and would implement directly if you approve. I appreciate your time and review. Looking forward to working with you to make these additions, Blackseneca (talk) 14:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello Blackseneca—thanks for following the rules on conflicts of interest. I don't generally deal with these myself, but if you add {{Edit COI}} to the top of your request, it will go into the queue and someone will eventually give you a decision on it. Before you do that, you'll want to address the concerns Drmies brought up. The wording one is straightforward (just change "serves as an advisor" to "is an advisor"), but the sourcing one is a bit trickier. Generally you'll be on the strongest ground if you can cite reliable news reports like Reuters; Coindesk isn't considered reliable, and some of the others are in more of a gray area. It's your choice how much to ask for, but requests that are short, simple, and supported by strong references are most likely to be approved quickly. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Iacowriter (20:19, 28 October 2024)

Hi. I guess some admin are mad at me because I don’t know how to round numbers. I need help on that. I was never taught that in school. --Iacowriter (talk) 20:19, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello Iacowriter. Suppose a film grossed $579,985,450 and we want to shorten it to millions. The number is between $579 million and $580 million, but which one is it closest to? It's much closer to $580 million, so that's the number we use in the infobox and the article. That's all rounding is, although you can look at this explanation if you want more information. Please let me know if you have other questions about this.
I'm sorry to see you've gotten so many warnings from other editors. The two things I would suggest are: 1) always write something in the edit summary field and 2) if someone undoes one of your edits, never restore it yourself. When someone says you've done something wrong, it's really important to make sure you understand what they're saying; if you don't understand, ask someone (like me!) for help before making similar edits. It's fine to make a mistake, but people will get frustrated if you keep making the same mistake over and over again. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Oh, i’ve seen this before. The problem was that everybody was just giving me a hard time at school. I must’ve forgotten about this, and got very confused on stuff like this nowadays. Iacowriter (talk) 12:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Iacowriter (18:05, 29 October 2024)

Hi. When I’m adding Of the box office is for Winnie the Pooh, Batman, and Spider-Man, did these films count to include?

The Blood and Honey movies

Captain America: Civil War

Batman Vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice

The Lego Movie

Lego Movie 2

Avengers: Infinity War

Avengers: Endgame

Justice League

Suicide Squad

Superpets

The Flash --Iacowriter (talk) 18:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Iacowriter, for issues like these, Wikipedia articles try to follow the sources. If you're referring to the List of highest-grossing media franchises article, the box office figures there are mainly cited to entries on The Numbers, so you should just use their data rather than deciding yourself which films to count. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Ok… sorry… Iacowriter (talk) 17:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Hectorinaaa (04:49, 1 November 2024)

how do I cite a certificate? --Hectorinaaa (talk) 04:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello Hectorinaaa. There are no specific requirements, so you should be fine if you just include the URL, the title of the document, the website where you found it, and anything else that seems relevant. As long as it's clear where the information came from, that's all that matters. By the way, since death certificates are primary sources, it's important to use them carefully: citing them for a birth/death date (like you're doing) is just fine, but for less straightforward claims, secondary sources are preferred. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Hectorinaaa (03:36, 2 November 2024)

Is this article good? Isabelle Pinson --Hectorinaaa (talk) 03:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Hectorinaaa. Very nice work: the article has everything it needs. If the sources say anything else about the style of her paintings or what made them distinctive, that might be worth adding...but the article is perfectly fine as it is. Keep up the good work! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Hectorinaaa (talk) 15:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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Question from BioGPT (21:26, 6 November 2024)

Hello, I’d like to write some biographies and I was of that there’s a template I can follow. Please can you help to find that template ? --BioGPT (talk) 21:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello BioGPT! This template may be what you're looking for: you can use it by copying {{subst:Biography}} onto a page and clicking "publish changes". (It gives some example sections to work with, but you'll probably want to remove some and add others.) Another option is to just find an article you like and copy its formatting, organization, etc. The Article Wizard will walk you through the process of creating a draft page where you can play around with things like this before you submit it for review. Let me know if you have any questions or run into any issues along the way. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Gab Bois Studio (20:30, 7 November 2024)

Hi !! I'm trying to find where the modifications I added went, and how I can keep working on them? --Gab Bois Studio (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Gab Bois Studio: It looks like someone undid your changes, giving the reason "Unsourced, Narrative, external links in body of article". I know that can be frustrating. You can still access what you wrote at this link, but think about ways to address the concerns that were raised. Adding references is probably the most important thing you can do: if you click the button that says "Cite" while you're editing, it will help you add a citation in the right format. Also, keeping articles neutral is important, so words like "stunning", "clever", "instantly recognizable", "infamous", etc. can sometimes rub people the wrong way. I know that's a normal way to write about art, but on Wikipedia it's better to stick to "just the facts". Hopefully this helps...let me know if you have any questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Iacowriter (19:37, 7 November 2024)

I said Spider-Man is now worth $26,664,582,784. What should I put for the actual number as I am trying to round it? Iacowriter (talk) 19:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Iacowriter, the number is in between $26.6 billion and $26.7 billion, so those are your two possibilities. Which one is it closest to? It's closer to $26.7 billion, so that's your answer. Another way of thinking about it: in this example we're rounding to three digits, so look at the fourth digit. If that number is a 5 or greater, you round up to $26.7 billion; if it's a 4 or lower, you round down to $26.6 billion. In this case it's a 6, so we round up to $26.7 billion. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I wasn’t taught that much in school. Iacowriter (talk) 14:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

RM at Talk:First Battle of Panipat

Hi, given that I in particular refuted any argument for consistency, I am curious as to how you conclude: The consistency argument isn't so weak that I as a closer can disregard it. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 11:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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