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Knut (polar bear)

I'm not sure if I understand this comment you made on the TFA page in regards to Knut (polar bear) and I would like further clarification, if you do not mind. If I remember correctly, you only nominated the article for GAN ("helped evaluate" hardly covers it; there's no reason to take credit where credit is not due), but are you implying that it is not deserving of "FA treatment"? I'm honestly baffled -- and somewhat insulted. As far as first FAs go, I believe it's a rather strong article and I'm proud of it. I'm curious as to your reason for implying that it does not deserve its gold star. María (habla conmigo) 19:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I get your point; I believe I took your comment out of context, so I apologize for that. I wanted to stay out of this battle mainly because I'm torn as to my alliances (main page diversity or fair treatment of subjects?), but your comment took me off guard and I lost track of the discussion. I think some of these "eccentric" articles make it to the main page quicker and easier than others because there's nothing like them represented in the other FAs to cause a problem with diversity; unless Flocke (polar bear) becomes featured and eligible for TFA soon, Knut will be the only individual polar bear (or animal, for that matter) on the main page for a long time. And, besides, I didn't nominate him for TFA. :) Good luck defending the VGs, though; I can see how the argument can go your way. María (habla conmigo) 19:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Castlevania: Sorrow series FT

Hello. Given your previously stated interest on seeing a Castlevania: Sorrow series FT, just dropping a note that I've rewritten Alucard (Castlevania) and nominated it for GA status. With three items of featured content (Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (lead), Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, List of characters in Castlevania: Sorrow series), and ideally two good articles (Soma Cruz and Alucard (Castlevania), hopefully), I see no problems at WP:FTC should this good article nomination pass. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 03:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to sleep now, but from a quick look it doesn't look like there will be many concerns- I'll do a full review tomorrow. Cheers, David Fuchs ^(talk) 03:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Medal

Thanks. I'll need everything I can get to help get em to the main page. ZeaLitY [ DREAM - REFLECT ] 20:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo (UNMIK)

I'm trying to achieve consensus within this article to have it merged. Since you participated in the AfD discussion, the consensus of which is disputed, I wondered if you would like to comment on the new discussion I am holding on the article's talk page. I am contacting all editors who participated in the AfD regardless of their vote in the interest of fairness. - Fritzpoll (talk) 22:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Metroid (series)

Hehe, I know the feeling. I've had my eye on a number of series articles that I'd like to get to FA, mainly the ones that are currently GA. After I hopefully get Wii Sports to FA, I'd like to get started on either the Zelda or Halo series article.

As far as the Metroid article, the structure in the "Overview" section and the whole article seems fine enough. Though I would reformat the story section to very condensed prose. Since all the games are part of a broader story, I'd use Kingdom Hearts (series)#Story as an example. The characters sections probably needs to be condensed, and I'd get rid of the bold names as they violate MoS. Those are the main things that jump out at me at first glance. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 22:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC))

I would do it chronologically. Others may disagree, but I feel it is the best way to give the overall plot of the whole series. Of course, keep the mention of how the games were not released in chronological order. My two cents. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 23:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC))

Re:Alucard

Thanks. I'm unsure whether I want to try to FAC or not, but that seems to be a possible future endeavor. The only thing I believe would need to be added is an "Attributes" section of sorts (see Cortana#Attributes, Master Chief (Halo)#Attributes, Dante (Devil May Cry)#Characteristics). With a little copy-editing after that, I can see it succeeding. I'm more unsure about Soma Cruz, but the article would be really as complete as can be with an aforementioned "Attributes" section. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 19:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Question

Dear Judgesurreal777, thank you for the kind words you posted here and here. I have followed your suggestion and continued building up the article. One quick question, though: I believe that when an editor changes his vote/argument in a discussion, then the first post should be struck out (not removed, but struck out as others seemed to have done in the discussion; see here and here as examples). Again, thank you for being open-minded and for re-examining the article based on its improvements. Sincerley, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 20:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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Metroid Prime

That's the second time I wasn't bold enough to nominate an article. But ok, already put my co-nomination and support, and I'll A)fix everything I can that people ask there and B)do some work on this one you nominated for the GA. And I have two stars on the FA list, you can get your second. I'll try my best to earn a third someday. Cheers. igordebraga ≠ 22:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Which reference? Make yourself clear. igordebraga ≠ 04:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that ref? Metacritic for Prime, detailing how reviews were calling it "best game ever" and such. It's because my edits take long (I research - and distract myself sometimes, but that doesn't matter - before pressing "Submit"), and during the period I was finishing, you were doing LOTS of edits (the same happened to me today to fix simple spelling errors in Metroid Prime), so "edit conflict", and I forgot to transpose from the resulting screen. As for the Morph Ball, well, I gave some words at the FAC, and you fixed the rest. Thanks for all the help in the candidacy. igordebraga ≠ 00:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

		The VG Barnstar
		For jumping on me not being bold enough, and fixing most of the FAC requests in the path of FA promotion. igordebraga ≠ 02:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

(don't mind if I already put in your Barnstars)

Unreferenced Tag-List of 24 Characters

• Can I ask why you thought it was necessary to tag this article? Would you kindly explain to me why you think it necessary to find a citation, for example, that Jack Bauer is really played by Kiefer Sutherland? WP:PROVEIT states that "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation." So, are you challenging the article, or is this just some crazy move? This is not meant to be a personal attack, I just feel this move is ridiculous. If you really want me to find citations, I will gladly do so, however I think you should justify why you placed the tag, and what content is "challengable". If you cannot back up your reasons, the tag will be removed. And it is also polite to create a section on the articles talk page, on why the tag was placed, I see you failed to do so. Please reply on my talk page. The tag will be removed in 48 hours if you cannot justify your actions. Steve Crossin (talk) 03:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

• There was a specific question I asked, was regarding IMDB. Can I use that to get citations, as in, for characters (eg Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer). I'd like to work on the Final Fantasy X article. Steve Crossin (talk) 04:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

• I will reply to your comment on my talk page in about 45minutes. Steve Crossin (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

• An article I do need help on is Karen Hayes. I'm not game enough to delete all the in-universe info, original research and plot info. Would you mind doing this? I just don't know what to keep, what to delete. But try not to be too abrasive about it :) Steve Crossin (talk) 04:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

• I added some references I found on the Karen Hayes talk page. May I suggest a structure similar to the Nadia Yassir article? Also, what is your input on that article? Would you now agree it is notable? I will reply in 30mins. I need to buy some groceries. Steve Crossin (talk) 04:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

• I saw you recently removed the notability tag on the Nadia Yassir article, then placed it back. Wise move. ArbCom has an injunction currently in force, so the removal or adding of notability tags to TV shows, characters, or episodes, is currently not allowed. Steve Crossin (talk) 03:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Smash Bros series

That's fine and all, but not every game series page has a reception section. Sonic, Mega Man, and Castlevania don't, to name a few.Satoryu (talk) 04:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Metroid Prime

Let me try to explain the issue a little better:

Each FU image needs to contribute significantly to our understanding.

Part of achieving that is clearly defining what that contribution is in the rationale (the purpose).

As both of these images have the same stated purpose, their contributions appear to be redundant (and, thus, in violation the minimal usage requirement).

If each image is indeed contributing something unique, you just need to say what that contribution is in the rationale. On the other hand, if one image isn’t really contributing much more beyond the contribution of the other, it needs to be removed.

Does that make sense? ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I don’t necessarily think either of them need to be removed, by the way; so there's no fight at the end of the day. The rationales just need to tell us what their unique contributions are. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Well done. Thank you for addressing my concerns. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Mana (series)

Hey, I've done about all I can think of on Mana (series). You may want to give it another quick copy edit (or get another pair of eyes) to trim/tweak any of the content I added. It's come a long way from it's GA form. Nice job, I'll see you at it's FAC. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 02:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC))

Congrats on the Mana article passing FA. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 03:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

Re: Dodo

I didn't; I removed a bunch of useless trivia and, if I recall correctly, I did not actually add anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.59.5 (talk) 04:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Fate

Thanks! Good luck on FFXI! --PresN (talk) 20:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Castlevania characters FT

Yeah, I know. The biggest problem is what to do with List of Castlevania characters, as I'm clueless as to how we're going to format the list. My initial thoughts go something like this:

• Conception/creation/design - my biggest issue is that pre-Kojima stuff has squat in terms of significant sourcing, but we can expand a lot on the actual Kojima stuff, given how dominant it is for most of the series, so it should be alright
• Recurring characters (Dracula (Castlevania), Simon Belmont, Alucard (Castlevania), Soma Cruz, maybe Death or some others I'm missing) - fairly easy, as we're just linking to the main articles and leaving summaries
• Then each individual game (or series in the case of the Dracula X Chronicles or the Sorrow titles) would get a section, and simply list the characters inside a body of prose. It reduces the burden of having to heavily source individual characters, and whatnot (Characters of Kingdom Hearts#Other characters is generally what I'm thinking of)
• Reception - overall reception is a little easier to write here than say List of characters in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow because of the breadth of the series. Grabbing general stuff from everywhere into two to three good paragraphs shouldn't be that difficult

That's the general format I think can work. The biggest problem will be cranking out each section, but it could feasibly be done.

As for the remaining character articles, both Dracula (Castlevania) and Simon Belmont share the problem that it will be difficult to bring up conception/design/whatnot given Dracula's breadth in the series (although it correspondingly makes reception a bit easier but the appearances section tedious) and Simon only being present in the early games. That said, my standards for GA (at least from my perspective) are a bit high, so I might be overstating the difficulty, but it will involve a bit of digging. If List of Castlevania characters does go to FL though, and the remaining character articles to GA, then we should have a topic (consisting of List of Castlevania characters (FL, main article), List of characters in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow (FL), Dracula (Castlevania) (GA), Simon Belmont (GA), Alucard (Castlevania) (GA), Soma Cruz (GA)). A bit of a lofty goal, but it seems possible. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 02:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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Blair Witch edits

In the future, you might find that instead of reverting back to a prior version, and chancing losing a lot of info that you will have to replace by hand that you instead got to the version, copy the info that you felt important to the article and paste it - alone - in the current article. Might make it a less messy affair. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 19:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Metroid (series)

I have reviewed this article that you have nominated for GA, and I have awarded it GA status. Happy Editing, Epass (talk) 13:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

My apologies if it's bad etiquette to use a talk page this way, but I just wanted to say I'd noticed all your hard work on the Metroid series page and thought you did a really good job. Well done on getting the GA, you earned it! Aawood (talk) 12:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Jason Jones

I think the sections you have are pretty much want we want (although I'm not sure we should phrase it as 'critical reaction' for a person, y'know? I'll take a look at it when I have time. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 15:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

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WP:ROLL

Hey, Judgesurreal, I've given you the rollback feature, which allows quick reversion of edits by a user, like TW but easier. Since you work on mainspace, I figure I can't go wrong with giving it to you. Just remember, do not use rollback on good faith edits or in an edit war, or the tool may be revoked. If you'd like to test it out, you can head to Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback. Happy editing! bibliomaniac15 I see no changes 05:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey

• Yeah, I need help big time. I'm improving List of characters in 24, but there is an error. Some of the article is getting chopped off. Can you have a look at it please? Steve Crossin (talk) 06:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for fixing that, I now have finished my adoption program, thanks. Now next step, at some point, admin coaching :) Steve Crossin (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Final Fantasy XI

Well, I guess you could check www.flikr.com. I'm not sure what to do about licensing tags though. The other option would be to maybe check out some articles on gaming sites to see if they posted anything related to the merchandise. I know famitsu's website does this sometimes. If you can't find anything suitable, then it's no biggie. The absence of an image like that wouldn't be enough to keep it from passing. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 16:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC))

How about adding an image of FFXI's composer Nobuo Uematsu in the audio section? This image would be a good one. The Prince (talk) 21:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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Final Fantasy XI

I don’t have any additional image concerns, no. Unless the !votes are close, I typically reserve more thorough analysis for articles in categories about which I have more "expertise". If you’d like me to do a thorough check, however, just let me know and I’d be happy to do so. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 04:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm on the case! ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 17:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Not really, no. Fair Use, as it pertains to issues of size, is solely concerned with protecting the legal rights of the copyright holder. How easy an image is to see simply isn’t an explicit consideration. Although, I would actually argue that implicit to an image’s ability to contribute to our understanding (necessity per NFCC#8) is our ability to actually see it in the first place. That is, however, an argument governing the “raw” image (i.e. clicking through to the actual image page, e.g. Image:IngameimageFinalFantasyXI.jpg). In regards to the images actually displayed on the FFXI page, the governing guideline is here. Simply stated, it’s best not to define a size, so that the users’ preferences make the determination. The article actually has it just right; if you want larger images, go to your preferences and raise your “thumbnail size” setting in the “Files” tab. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 19:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

List of Devil May Cry Demons

I have posted some of the quotes from the 1up articles on the deletion discussion to attempt to show notability. They are from

• <ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3165619| title=Previews: Devil May Cry 4| author=James Mielke| publisher=1up.com| date=[[2008-01-28]]| accessdate=2008-02-25}}</ref>

However, not only am I horrendously bad at writing reception and development sections, but I have several tests today, and then I'm not sure if I'll have internet this weekend. Could you possibly setup even meager reception and development sections in order to show Percy that the article has notability? If you're busy, that's fine.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 15:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

The second ref is a creator interview.

These are the relevant quotes:

1. "We also had the idea of trying to confuse the lines between demons and angels, devils and gods."
2. "The angel type characters are really cool. They feel more like what we imagine 'seraphim' to be than we've seen in any other game before."
3. "Well I'm really happy that you like the angel characters we have created for Devil May Cry 4. I am really proud of how some of these characters turned out. I think my experience at Capcom really helped me to create some interesting things here. When creating games, there is often a request to "make something cool" and my experience has helped me to create designs that are not simply cool in their own right, but cool in the context of the game that they will be appearing in. In the case of Devil May Cry 4, the idea of a religious order brings up a lot of ideas for characters, and the pure, clean image of an angel is very interesting in the world of devil May Cry as well. I was able to really make the angels look cool when contrasted to the equally cool demons of the game. These characters are some of my favorite in the game, and I'm really pleased that you like them!"
4. "DMC4's enemies come in both big and small sizes, from Berial's immense size to the tiny monsters you fight on regular levels. Are the big bosses the most enjoyable, and which of the game's many bosses is your favorite and why?"
5. "Designing bosses is certainly a lot of fun, but at the same time it can be a difficult as designing a main character! As I mentioned earlier, the design of Devil May Cry 4 is so closely connected to the gameplay, and that is fact is most apparent when designing enemies. You have to think about how the player will approach each enemy you create. Bosses are really fun but difficult to design as a result. If I had to pick a favorite boss in the game, I think it would be Credo's Angel form. That boss really came together very nicely. I also really like Berial, he is so strong and cool."
6. "The bigger they come, the harder they fall. The game's bosses are huge. If Berial -- who is featured in the downloadable demo -- is any indication, then consider him 'medium-sized.' Yeah, we were surprised, too, but the development team has obviously taken some cues from the God of War series, increasing the scale of DMC's bosses to WHOA proportions. That makes them all the more fun to cut down to size, though. Just make sure you bring your Depends in case you're not ready for what the game has in store for you. These guys are big."
7. "The ultimate battle between Heaven and Earth. The angelic and the demonic have never been so forcefully and gracefully portrayed in any of the Devil May Cry games as they are in DMC4. Both Nero and Dante take on a legion of seraphim the likes of which gamers have never seen before, and it puts an interesting spin on what all of our preconceptions of 'good' are in a video game."
8. "Along the way you will be indulging in the wholesale slaughter of some of the most bizarre looking creatures you will find this side of American McGee's Alice. There are grim reaper phantoms with lethal scythes, fast-moving lizardmen warriors that burst out of the ground in a cloud of dust, cackling ghost witches with what look like giant shears, and life-size marionettes which drop down from their strings to attack you."
9. "These special powers become particularly useful when you take on the vast demon boss characters, which include a giant lava spider and a skeletal eagle the size of a small jet liner. The game only includes four real bosses, plus Mundus himself, and you will meet each of them three times, but luckily most of them will behave slightly differently each time you fight them, with new locations, powers and strategies to overcome. It's not all good news though. Battling the icky looking nightmare boss does get rather repetitive, and the game in general tails off a bit towards the end. Most of the monsters are introduced in the first half of the game and just become more numerous and more powerful later on, while less attention seems to have gone into the dramatic camera angles in the closing stages of the game."

I'm a bit antsy about doing it now because Percy keeps insisting that showing the notability during the AfD isn't enough, and the page should be deleted if the sections aren't up to code.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I have to finish getting home for spring break (I should be back tomorrow), but then I'll work on getting sources and setting up a rudimentary section. IT'll be crappy, but at least it'll be there.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

FFV

I agree with the concern; I don't think both Image:FFV ATB.PNG and Image:Final_Fantasy_V_Active_Time_Battle_screenshot.png‎ are necessary. They're both ATB screens and both in English. The relavent policies would be NFCC#3A ("As few non-free content uses as possible are included in each article") and NFCC#8 (with which you're no doubt familiar). A Japanese language version, alternatively, wouldn't seem to be helpful either, as I suspect the only substantial difference would be the language/alphabet (what understanding would we really gain by seeing Japanese characters?) I actually think Image:Final_Fantasy_V_death_crystal_screenshot.png‎ needs to go, too, as the prose sufficently describes the scene (we all know what a crystal looks like, no?) ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

My thoughts were that we see the character sprite(s) and background in the ATB screen as well. The “non combat” image, then, really just changes the perspective angle slightly and removes the blue dialog boxes. There is some level of validity to your reasoning, though; having not played the game, I’d yield to your judgment. If you think a “non combat” scene is vital to assisting our understanding, then I won’t object to its inclusion. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 23:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all; believe me, I appreciate the questions. I think it’s important for these articles to have a "packaging" image, as it provides “real world” reference and identification for people unfamiliar with the game (i.e. people like me). We can nerdily say, “hey, I saw that thing at Best Buy!” Actually, a case could probably be made for using a packaging image (whether it’s the PS or GBA version doesn’t matter, I suppose) in the infobox and axing the title screen.

I’m not terribly keen on the FMV, as it isn’t even terribly clear what’s being depicted. Its stated purpose is to depict “the fictional world of Final Fantasy V, and for no other purpose”. That seems, however, to be what the crystal image is doing. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 05:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Bone Sharps, Cowboys, and Thunder Lizards

I added a sample panel to the characters section: enjoy! :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 01:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

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Elder Scrolls

I've become hesitant to involve myself in those materials for the moment. It seems to arouse too much anger from people I don't really want to make angry. Also: do you think it might be better to merge the two into one article, taking the DLC content from the Dev. article, and making a big ol' "Expansions to TES4" article? Then we would muffle Piotrus' old objection to the article's heft while maintaining a more or less sensible definition of what the article should include. I'm not sure what kerfluffles that would create, what with KOT9 being GA and all. (I imagine removing the designation in the merge would be simple enough.) That way we'd have an article we could actually take to FA, rather than one remaining in an awful quasi-state.

It all seems too soon, though, to think of any advance for these articles. Passions are still too high, and the general mood of the Wiki is against it. At present, there seems to be a strong tendency towards a more restrictive reading of Policy and Guideline, to the detriment of any ES candidacy in the near future. Perhaps it would have been possible before the TFA SNAFU. It isn't today. I'm working on Diocletian and Constantine I, which seem to be safe ground. I'd much rather work towards improving the encyclopedia in those areas where I can, than fight some interminable battle against immovable enemies. Thanks for the support, but I think I'm going to have to leave these articles where they are for the present. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 15:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, that makes me feel somewhat better. :) Here's what I wanted to do RE:Merges: take The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine, The Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles, and the Downloadable content section in the Development of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion article, and merge them into one "Expansions to The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" article. Is that feasible? I don't think I'm the first to suggest something along these lines, either. Piotrus objected on the Knights of the Nine FAC because he felt that it wasn't big enough, so it might encourage people who would otherwise pass over the article thinking it too small. Anyways, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter. Thanks again! Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Planesofexistance.JPG

Thank you for uploading Image:Planesofexistance.JPG. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:MakeWayforDucklingsBookCover.jpg

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Multiple FAC noms

Please see the instructions at WP:FAC regarding multiple noms; I withdrew Metroid (series) because you still have two nominations running that have unresolved issues. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Ofermod (band)

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Ofermod (band), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Ofermod (band). Michig (talk) 09:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Zelda Instruments

Hi! I was surprised that the decision was delete, not merge, but that's fine - I figure the admins know what they're doing. Nevertheless, I was thinking as a result of the discussion that it would be good to see a Music of Zelda page developed. One of the side effects of researching the topic was that I found the instruments to be a subtopic of the wider discussion, and that Zelda has had a lot of impact within the area of video game music. It should have been obvious, I supposed, but music isn't really my area of expertise. Anyway, it seems to me that there is enough material for a potential GA. Does that seem like a reasonable way forward? Or do you have other suggestions?

I find this interesting, as I only started editing due to WP:SOFIXIT - if I come across valid material when thinking about an AfD, I'm obligated to do what I can to add it. :) But the topic looks interesting after all. - Bilby (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Would you still be rational if you were waterboarded?

Thanks for being a level-headed editor in the midst of insults in the discussion about whether Waterboarding should be a featured article. [1] And please forgive my tongue-in-cheek heading. Right now I'm getting weary of this debate, and am on the point of lashing out, which means it's time for me to quit for now. You either wisely resisted lashing back right away, or took a break and then resisted lashing back. In any case, yours is the type of response I'd like to see more of on Wikipedia. Thanks! Wakedream (talk) 06:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)