User talk:Sven Manguard

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I edit from a location in Eastern Standard Time (UTC-5) and have an erratic schedule. I will try to never disappear in the middle of a conversation, but it might happen occasionally. If I do disappear, don't worry, I'll get back to you as soon as I'm able to. If I disappear after 05:00 UTC do not expect to hear from me for at least 10 hours. Thanks for your understanding, Sven

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I now have the email user function enabled. Emails will be sent to my alternate account, which I never check unless I am expecting a message. There is absolutely no way that I will read your email message unless you leave a note about it here, on this talk page. I will not be held accountable for not seeing your message if you do not leave me a note here. It doesn't have to be fancy, but make it obvious please. Also, please use email sparingly. If it can be discussed on the talk page, I would far prefer it there. Thanks for your understanding, Sven

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No worries

Don't worry, it's fine. I know it's hard sometimes to calculate whether a team has promoted or not. It was very clear that Betis was going to promote anyway, but we can not make something happen until it is a mathematical fact. You did a good job though and I really appreciate it when people try to contribute. Many thanks for your help and sorry if I've been too harsh on the promotion ; Qampunen (talk) 22:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

The issue here was that I thought that all of the teams has played 38 games, however the team in fifth playing only 37 made my math invalid. You were not too harsh on me, really. Since you explained your reasoning in the edit summary I was able to figure out what was going on, see that you were right, and move on. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

"Image in your Signature"

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VoxLuna (talk) 05:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

IMG

"[06:50] <Sven_Manguard> Chzz, can you do a similar list for files starting in IMG and see if that's also a problem?"

• User:Chzz/img0511

HTH,  Chzz  ►  14:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

May god help us all... at least I'll have something to do from now until the sun is a smoldering lump of coal... thanks for running the list. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't we have a similiar script to do this tedious task? ;) And didn't you started the discussion :poke:--Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 12:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

/rolls eyes/ There is a script. I don't use the script, because I do more than the script does. I am also fully aware of the fact that I asked for this to be run. This is something I've worked on intermittently for months. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Image use request

I don't suppose you'd be able to help out with an image-related issue here could you? Thanks. =) Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 17:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Handled. Details at the link. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:42, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks mate. I always figure that in cases where it's best to ask someone who knows better, you do just that (rather than blundering about trying to figure it out yourself, messing up, and letting time get wasted). =p Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 22:40, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

When it comes to files, I'm one of the "someone who knows better" people. If I can't help you, I know who can. Feel free to drop in as often as needed. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:03, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Yep, I figured as much, just need to find the right balance between using teamwork and having other people do my work for me. =p Thanks, will do, lord knows there's enough file issues on these things. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 19:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Experience is a good teacher. Work long enough in one area and soon you find people seeing you as an expert in that area.

If you stumble upon a massive cache of files that all need work, message me, as I can power through most image related problems at a high rate of speed while maintaining quality of work. For example, the current mess than I am waist deep in is DSC and IMG image name renamings. There are about 2700 to go though. Even the ones that other people renamed I still am going through to flush out. Ah, masochism. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:35, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Yep, that's about the gist of what I told my gf today with regard to mathematics during my daily pep talk with her. =)

Lol, sure thing. I don't think I'll need to deal with that many, but I might be dealing with one that is an image of an Akkadian name and a few that are pics of my dog for the Finnish Spitz article and I don't know anything about img copyright procedure. xD Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 05:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Sure. If you are taking pictures of your dog, then you get to set the license and copyright isn't really an issue. If you're uploading other people's images, and those images are not explicitly released under a free license, or if you're taking pictures of something that isn't free, say a painting in a gallery (assuming that painting is not old enough that the copyright expired) then you are dealing with copyright, and therefore the images must meet the standards at WP:NFCC, and must have a Fair Use Rationale (FUR). The Wikipedia upload wizard will walk you though uploading both free and fair use images, I think it's rather well done.

Of course if you need help feel free to ask. Sven Manguard Wha? 06:46, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

ANI

Can you provide a summary about what we just went through to ANI? Thanks a lot for explaining! --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 00:39, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Done. Sorry I couldn't help more. My advice, if you do get topic banned, is to keep looking for good images, bring them to other people that work in files, ask them to check your work, and then ask them to upload for you. It won't show up in your edit history, true, but if they acknowledge it came from you during the upload, and you keep track of your success stories, you can come back in a few months to AN/I and say "Look at this, I've learned. I can now be trusted." Sven Manguard Wha? 23:35, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

But if they don't :( Thx for your help anyways, I learned a lot of NFCC! --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 14:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

RfA

If you have a moment, I would appreciate your feedback on this. Thanks.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm honored to. Message me again if you need anything else. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Featured Sounds needs you

Featured sounds was booming with activity in the March/April period, ideally that should be all the time. FS has been a battleground at times, however, it is my hope that that is in the past. I ask you all to reconsider your positions and set aside the differences you may have had with other participants for the good of the project and encyclopedia. Don't let FS become like VP, it is a path that a featured process should traverse. You were sent this message because you are listed at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Contributors or have been a past contributor.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Featured sound candidates at 09:35, 16 May 2011 (UTC).

No. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:37, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Mentor for NFCC

Can you be my mentor for non-free images? Please leave me a {{talkback}} if you reply here. Thanks,--Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 14:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but at this time I am not willing to be your mentor. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Might I ask why? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 21:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Sure. I suspect, however, that you are not going to like my answer. The short and pleasant answer is that I do not believe I can help you. The long and less pleasant answer is that I do not believe you can be helped. I have researched your case, as well as your history as a subject at admin noticeboards, and your history of gaining and losing access to certain privileges.

Most people come into file work with 50% of what they need already there. They understand the basics of the NFCC and image policy, even if the fine points are confusing. They also show a respect for Wikipedia’s image policy, because even if they disagree with it or parts of it, they recognize the purpose it serves and the benefit of having it. I probably can build up from scratch an understanding of image policy in a user that knows nothing about that policy, assuming that the user is genuinely willing to accept and respect that policy. I can do nothing for a user that is not genuinely willing to accept and respect policy. Regrettably, I see with you neither the basic understanding of nor the respect for our image policy. As evidenced by your conversation in #wikipedia-en you take a battleground mentality towards basic policy. Because you do not understand or accept it, you seek to change or do away with it. I cannot work with you as long as that is the case. I don’t demand instant progress, but I don’t see the point in teaching someone something while they are actively trying to undermine what I am teaching.

As I said, this isn’t the answer that you want to hear, however it is the answer that I have to give. Please do not ask me for further help. If you make the changes that the community believes are needed of you, I will more than likely find out about it on my own. Perhaps then we can have this conversation again.

I have said I am trying to make an understanding of the policy and trying to prove myself. There is no way for others to know whether I understand of not without me proving. I am not trying to game the system but I genuinely believe that I have enough firm grasp of NFCC to upload software screenshots. I believe those cases are easy and not in the gray area. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 21:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

What you say and what you demonstrate are different. I said above that I need to see for myself the changes that I, and the other people that gave feedback, are looking for. Simply telling me you have changed is not enough, not at this point. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) so retyping: I am trying to make an understanding of the policy and trying to prove myself. There is no way for others to know whether I understand of not without me proving. Also, I am not trying to game the system but I genuinely believe that I have enough firm grasp of NFCC to upload software screenshots and work with those areas. I believe those cases are easy and not in the gray area. I agree that there are other cases/images where I may not have enough knowledge of the NFCC to determine if they can be used or not. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 21:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

That's why I want a checklist of points you are looking for. Simply telling show us, I believe is not enough. I do not know what points are you looking for. I have read and re-read the policy and I think I have some firm grasp of it. Also, how am I suppose to "show" if I have my hands tied. Perhaps a comprimise can be worked out? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 22:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I have already said no. At this time that answer is non-negotiable. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Anybody else I can work with? There is no way of telling whether I know if I don't show. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 22:04, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

You seem to have found other venues. You also do not seem to understand that when I said "Please do not ask me for further help" I meant "Please do not ask me for further help." This conversation is going around in circles and is becoming grating. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Lift topic ban

What would be the best course of action (road map) in order to get the topic ban lifted? You know more about the NFCC and the workings of WIkipedia better than me. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 19:42, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

What I'm thinking is listing all cases whereby NFCC images I suggested to FUU was successful. Perhaps you can countersign the list to show that you approve/agree with me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tyw7/topicban_appeal --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 20:23, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Please see the above. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

AN

Throwing "assholes" and "jerks" was unnecessary ->> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#User:Sven_Manguard. NVO (talk) 02:38, 18 May 2011 (UTC)