User talk:Katieh5584

Page protection

Do you want me to protect your talk page? §FreeRangeFrog^croak 22:27, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, please. Thanks.Katieh5584 (talk) 22:28, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the protection, partly because it's been a while and partly because someone raised a (valid) concern about the protection being indefinite and therefore inappropriate. To clarify, any more vandalism or attacks will justify protection again, but hopefully that won't be necessary. Please comment in the ANI thread as well. What you've chosen as your area of activity here requires by definition to be able to communicate effectively, so you either need to communicate with other editors or you need to change the level and nature of your contributions. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 04:28, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For fine vandal fighting. 75* 01:21, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.Katieh5584 (talk) 10:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Things written in Foreign

I've deleted the Rifat one - it was in Turkish (a good clue was the words Ankara and Tűrk near the start). And the word 'resume' in the blogspot URL gave a very good clue that A7 would be involved... The other one is Arabic and in translation it looks odd - coherent but I can't see the meaning. I've tagged it as Arabic. A tip: if not sure what language things are, drop a few words into Google Search in quotes. That way you often pick up a copyvio. Or use Google Translate first - 'detect language' setting. If that doesn't work, try G search without quotes and look at the national domains of sites - with luck, you might pick up a Wikpedia page in the language. All of us that work PNT regularly use tricks like these and act casually as though we speak all the languages. You get to spot things - an ı (i with no dot) has to be a Turkic language and likely will be Turkish or Northern Azeri; loads of x and w and double vowels is Somali; Arabic looking things will be Arabic, Farsi or less often Urdu; stuff that looks as if it's written mirror fashion with loads of w u and q is Armenian; and so on. It's quite good fun being a language detective. Peridon (talk) 17:05, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips.Katieh5584 (talk) 17:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

A couple of things

One - if a page author has blanked the page, and they are the main contributor (i.e. all the others have been tags, typos or gnomish things), don't revert them. Just tag G7. The other is U5. This is really for the fantasy football tables, things that are very obviously CVs (resumés if you're on the wrong side of the pond...), and ranting. Things that look like articles (or someone completely new's idea of an article) probably are draft (not Draft:) articles and should be left (unless attack, copyvio, hoax or spam...). If they've been there for a long time, yes, tag them or MfD as FAKEARTICLE. If they're fresh, give them some chance to grow, and contact the author to see if they need help. A lot do start articles on their user page instead of on a subpage. If they say it's finished, ask about moving it into article space. If not, keep an eye on it. Peridon (talk) 19:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks.Katieh5584 (talk) 19:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

U5 again

Hi Katieh5584. I've just declined your U5 tag on User talk:ChristinaAklein. Please don't use U5 for deleting userpages unless there's no conceivable way that the content could be relevant to Wikipedia. In this instance, the user was trying to ask a question about an article, which is a perfectly valid use of their talkpage. Your work with the other speedy deletion tags is pretty exemplary, but this one seems to be tripping you up - it might be worth re-reading the criterion. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:19, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.Katieh5584 (talk) 16:48, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

User talk:A delicious pot pie

Please be careful with things like these. Editors are free to remove most of the stuff from their talk pages, with few exceptions. In fact, the removal serves as a "read receipt" of sorts. They are not required to reply to you (or even the SPI). You need to be less fixated on these types of things. These series of edits don't fall under vandalism or BLP reverts in any way and can cause you to be blocked for 3RR. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Para-Researcher Avijit

Hello Katieh5584. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Para-Researcher Avijit, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 19:13, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Joseph Van Vinike

Please remove my deletion ( Paros1) on the article for Jerome Paros. I would like to revise the article. May 10, 2014 Appreciatively, Paros1 (talk) 21:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC)Lawrence Paros

• Katieh5584 did not delete your article, nor do they have the ability to undelete it as they aren't an admin. Katieh5584 did properly tag it for deletion. The administrator that deleted your sandbox is User:Athaenara. That would be the place to start. Since it was deleted for being spam, you will have to explain to them why it isn't or how you will change it from being spam. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 21:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi protection of your talk page

I see that new editors who have questions for you cannot talk to you, and they are forced to post on your user page. Considering you're dealing with lots of anti-vandalism, and that involves a lot of new users, could I ask why you've gotten your talk page semi-protected? Couldn't you just create a subpage to your talk page, where new users can edit? I'd be happy to answer questions by new editors who want to learn how to edit Wikipedia. 123chess456 (talk) 21:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

@123chess456: Just because Katieh5584 is dealing with anti-vandalism, this page gets a lot of vandalism. I know first hand. (t) Josve05a (c) 00:41, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Notification of ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123chess456 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

• The thread is Pattern of reverting edits made on other user's talk pages Meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 00:57, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

• Katie, to sum up what has been said at the ANI:

1. You've been editing in extremely good faith but are sometimes too quick to delete/revert things.
2. Since you've previously indicated you struggle with communicating, you need to find a way to work on such skills. Other Wikipedians can help you with this, but you have to be willing to work on the skills and to follow pointers given for improving such skills.

I'll let Meteor sandwich give the details. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 09:11, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

123chess456 questioned if you were "biting newbies" (being rude) by reverting things that weren't vandalism. They said you might should have your tools taken away, but other people said you can continue fighting vandalism and should have another chance.

Points of focus:

1. Don't revert notices on user pages (warnings, blocks, sockpuppetry tags) as you did on A delicious pot pie. That's still editwarring. Only revert if someone tries to remove deletion tags or add vandalism. Admins can just check the page history.
2. You need to communicate directly with people if they have questions; if you don't, they'll think you're ignoring them
   • If they post on your talk page, respond.
   • It can be really simple, like saying "OK", "Sorry, I guess I made a mistake" (if you did) or "No, I don't think I messed up" (if you didn't).
   • Don't delete comments without responding.
   • If they ask something you can't answer, you can ask for help: XXSNUGGUMSXX and I are happy to help you communicate. User talk:ThatPeskyCommoner (autism-friendly chat place) is another place you can go.

I'm going to "stalk" you for a little bit to make sure you're doing all right and begin answering some people's questions. If this message wasn't clear, you can ask me. You're not in trouble, we just don't want you scaring off other people! Meteor sandwich yum (talk • contribs) 18:00, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

blocked, unconstructive edits etc.

It was my son, I put a stop to it.

thanks, jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.240.167.55 (talk) 13:31, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm not Katieh, but it's fine. Happens a lot, no worries. Meteor sandwich yum (talk • contribs) 09:19, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Conflict of interest on Claudia Keelan

Hi Katieh, I'm writing to suggest that the editing of my page Claudia Keelan is not a conflict of interest, and the deletion of the new entry isn't appropriate, as the page is years out of date and does not show the current state of the author's career. I wonder if you could send me my edits, and suggest what in the entry is inappropriate for Wikipedia's guidelines. I understand that the link to the video from The Berlin Poetry festival which was posted on Youtube, may demonstrate a copyright problem with Wikipedia, though all rights reverted to me upon filming. I'd really appreciate your help in making an entry that will not violate any of Wikipedia's guidelines. Thanks for all you do!

Sincerely Yours, --Claudia.keelan (talk) 05:16, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Unresolved

 – Meteor sandwich yum (talk • contribs) 18:42, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Change

Hey Katie I could not find my source I will try to get it later. Sorry -vanettenny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanettenny (talk • contribs) 15:34, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

@Vanettenny: (Not Katieh5584) It's okay. We just want to make sure we have our facts straight so people trust what we say. You can always come back with it later. Meteor sandwich yum (talk • contribs) 18:33, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

What you put on my page

Katieh5584, i respect you very much (even though i don't know you), but if you could please tell me what you put on my page, because now it has been deleted. If ou can't remember, thats okay, but im just asking! Thanks!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilmad2178 (talk • contribs) 21:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

@Wilmad2178: (Not Katieh5584): I believe you're talking about your talk page being deleted.

It wasn't personal, it's just policy that we can't have pages that diss people, even if it's true. Wikipedia is more of an encyclopedia than a blog, why don't you start your own? Maybe a #IHateJustinBeiber thing on Twitter or something. Or get a MySpace account and talk all about it. I can pretty much guarantee you it won't be deleted there. Meteor sandwich yum (talk • contribs) 18:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

APPA

I am totally new to this. I saw your name at the bottom of a 'speedy deletion' of a U-20 Soccer team article I created.

2 reasons stated:

a. ambiguous promotion b. not relevant or something

Maybe it did have ambiguous promotion, whatever that is. But, it is totally relevant. There are like 30 teams in this same national league and they have articles. Why do they not cease to exist?

Please explain. How can people start and learn if they get crushed with no recourse or discussion?

If you can't help me, please refer me to someone who can.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mexicomountie (talk • contribs) 01:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

@Katieh5584: After you welcome somebody, put it on your watchlist for a few days. The article in question is APPA Aguilas.

@Mexicomountie: I'm going to reply here.

Why do they not cease to exist?

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Basically, the other stuff just wasn't checked.

How can people start and learn if they get crushed with no recourse or discussion?

You had two options. One was to contest the deletion on the talk page (it looks like you did, but didn't make a strong argument); the other was to use your sandbox to create a draft. Although it's still possible for it to be deleted, it will give you a chance to work on it first.

And yes. WP:ADVERTISING is deleted at all times. Only an administrator (such as JamesBWatson, not Katieh or me) can see deleted history.

I can't tell if it was spam or not. I see you've already brought this to JamesBWatson's page, wait for their reply.

This was not personal, and not intended to make you feel bad. It's routine cleanup protocol.

Wrong venue. Please move to the talk page of JamesBWatson

 – Meteor sandwich yum (talk • contribs) 02:20, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Meteor sandwich yum (talk • contribs) 02:49, 17 May 2014 (UTC)