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:Hi, I am not able to view the article that was deleted but by the criteria noted for reason of speedy deletion, it sounds like you were in some way promoting a company. It also says that the topic was not notable, and the only way to not get cited for being not notable is by referencing top tier newspaper articles about the topic or anything like that. |
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my daughter coined a new word and random act of kindness, why cant it be included?
her word is "flowerbombing" - she decided that she would stand on the main street of Irelands capital YESTERDAY- giving out flowers for free to people who looked like they needed cheering, she thought this up as a direct result of robin Williams death- she made the word up. hence- flowerbombing- a random act of kindness. it is now being done in Perth, Australia today, and some American friends are going to copy,I have Photos which are up on Facebook so does that help? I've put up the article twice and its been deleted both times... please tell me why? surely its not offensive? and it may go viral....( we hope) Natasha white1 (talk) 10:12, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Natasha. The problem with this topic is that you are trying to add it to a global encyclopedia which aims to document only the most notable things. If we had an article for every event that happened, every person's pet, etc., it would fill up and become unusable very quickly! So it was decided that topics would have to be written about in multiple reliable sources before they could be included. The idea is that if a topic has been written about in the news, books, or scientific papers (as examples) this means that the topic is worth writing about and so worthy of inclusion in this encyclopedia. Unfortunately your daughter's word probably just isn't notable enough. Sam Walton (talk) 10:38, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- Natasha, not to detract from your daughter's important contribution to world peace and harmony, but somebody apparently beat her to the word and the concept by six months, here. Mandruss |talk 11:55, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Article is set for Speedy Deletion
Hi,
Please help me how to fix this issue.
I have written just few lines about a website.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forallpeople.info
Following is the message received from VQuakar.
"It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable."
I could see many website pages are available in Wiki. But i am totally confused why my stuff is set to Speedy Deletion.
Thanks for your help.AyeshaShirinS (talk) 09:39, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, I am not able to view the article that was deleted but by the criteria noted for reason of speedy deletion, it sounds like you were in some way promoting a company. It also says that the topic was not notable, and the only way to not get cited for being not notable is by referencing top tier newspaper articles about the topic or anything like that.
I also suggest first creating your article in your sandbox. You can also read more about it here. Mfribbs Talk 12:15, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Choosing category while adding new article
I want to write about some place. Which category should I go with from below options.
1. I'm writing about a company, organisation or foundation 2. I'm writing about myself 3. I'm writing about someone else 4. I'm writing about a website 5. I'm writing about a new phrase/word 6. I'm writing about a recent event 7. I'm writing about a musical artist, group, album or song 8. I'm writing about an article about something else
Anujsharma9196 (talk) 09:14, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Multiple issues tags
Edward321 has restored tags with the comment the the tags were restored because the issues were not addressed when it appears the issues indeed have been addressed. He has made no attempt on the talk page to expand on or define exactly what his problem with the page is and what he expects it would take to stop restoring the tags. It appears to me that the tags are being restored maliciously. Is it just me or does the guy have some kind of axe to grind? The page in question is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Sebring Garageman93 (talk) 03:57, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi @Garageman93: Welcome to the Teahouse! I do believe the article could still be improved quite a bit, but regardless - I think saying that there was any malicious intent behind the tag restorations is a bit excessive. One of Wikipedia's core values is to assume good faith, and there doesn't seem to be any reason to jump to conclusions. Have you tried contacting Edward321 on his talk page, asking for clarification or guidance as to why he restored the tags? It's best to try to resolve any issues with an editor directly first, before getting any third parties involved. As a side note, it's often courteous to tag or notify any users when discussing them. Thanks! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:06, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Is image still pending approval?
Sorry to ask this when I think the answer is 'yes' but I want to be sure before firmly nagging the artist and his folk...but could you confirm that the image file below is still awaiting official confirmation regarding copyright, please? As I am new I want to be 100% sure before I go and have a polite moan! They said they'd get on to it but I fear they may have forgotten.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Robbie_Boyd,_British_singer,_songwriter_and_musician_2014.jpg
Many thanks, Kath Atkinson (talk) 20:26, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- It would appear that OTRS still has an open case concerning this picture. You can contact them to check the status. Jab843 (talk) 20:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Kath, there is nothing received at OTRS yet, also if the picture is by Rosie Hardy, then it's her permission that is needed. Copyright belongs (in most cases) to the creator of the image, not the subject. Nthep (talk) 20:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Many thanks - I think I'll do just a moderate nag to the artist as I suspect that is where the process has got stuck! Many thanks for the prompt response,
Kath Atkinson (talk) 20:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
What am I supposed to use my sandbox for?
I have a sandbox and I was wondering what I use it for ~Can you help me wikipedians?Angel Of Darkness862 (talk) 20:14, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, Angel of Darkness, welcome to the Teahouse! Sandboxes are most often used for testing out editing functions (like the use of complicated templates), so that one can try things out without messing up a real article. They can also be used for rough drafts of articles that would otherwise be not quite ready for main article space yet. Basically, you can do whatever you want there (within reason). Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:23, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Creating an Article
1. How do you create an article?2. How can I get to my sandbox? It's so hard to find...I could only get to it once. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AKA Casey Rollins (talk • contribs) 14:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've moved this question to the top of the Teahouse Q&A board, as it looks like you added the question to the bottom of the page, where Teahouse hosts do not usually monitor. Mz7 (talk) 19:58, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello AKA Casey Rollins and welcome to the Teahouse. To create an article, I recommend reading Wikipedia:Your first article then following the Article Wizard. It is important to remember that not all topics are suitable for Wikipedia, and those pages will help you decide if the topic you want to write about is suitable or not for Wikipedia. The main Wikipedia sandbox is located at Wikipedia:Sandbox. The main sandbox allows you to carry out small editing experiments; however, it is cleared periodically and text that you type will not stay for long. If you want your own personal sandbox where you can develop articles, go to User:AKA Casey Rollins/sandbox. If you are confused or have any more questions, feel free to leave a reply below or ask again. Best of luck, Mz7 (talk) 20:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Welcome! To add to what Mz7 wrote, you could also try article's for creation, a helpful place to start an article and get it reviewed by fellow helpful community members where they to could help you out. Best, ///EuroCarGT 20:11, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- To add my two cents to the excellent answers above, there is a simple link to your own Sandbox among the links on the right hand side at the very top of each Wikipedia page when you are logged on. There are also links there to your user page, your Talk page, your Watchlist etc. --Gronk Oz (talk) 06:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
How to get rid of the Editor heading on top of article
Hi everyone,
How can I remove the Editor heading above my article? Also, how do I know if my article is published? I tried to search for it but it didn't show up.
Thanks for your help!
Stella 2001:1BA8:101:10:20EE:8C9:185B:951B (talk) 17:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- There are no other contributions on your account aside from this one. Did you edit with another account, or did you perhaps forget to log back in before posting this question? ArcAngel (talk) ) 17:40, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
What happened
Please bear with me as I am a novice. I am trying to set up an education page for my course this fall. I went through the wizard and saved everything and now cannot find it! I see my own sandbox but how do I find the page I just created? The second issue is that my institution is still not listed on the Special:Institutions page so I mush have done something wrong.Antlady (talk) 16:21, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Antlady and welcome to the Teahouse. You don't need to worry about being a novice, we all have to start somewhere. As for your files, they've all been stored in your user directory like this one User:Antlady/course wizard/Grading. If you click on the "Contributions" option at the top of your user page you will see the location of the others. Good luck and come back if you get stuck again. Philg88 ♦talk 16:46, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, that helps a lot! I have clicked (twice) on the "request instructor access", which takes me to the Education Notice Board. My institution is not listed in the Special: Institutons page so I am stuck until I receive this status.
- That is surprising considering it (without specifically naming, if I have read things right) is one of THE premier institutions in the country! ArcAngel (talk) ) 17:01, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
I see my request at the bottom of the Education Notice Board page; is it pending, or do I need to do something else?Antlady (talk) 16:50, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- You don't need to do anything else. An instructor will decide whether to grant your request for course instructor rights and notify you at the Education Notice Board. Worth adding to your WP:watchlist if it's not already there. Philg88 ♦talk 16:57, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
How can I upload an image that I have permission to use?
I uploaded an image and it was flagged for "possible copyright violations." However, I was given permission direct from the owner to upload. Is there a way to upload this file myself or does the owner need to do it? Rys411 (talk) 15:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Rys411. The fastest and easiest way is for the owner of the image to upload it to Wikimedia Commons under a Creative Commons license. If that isn't practical, give us more details here for a more specific answer. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
How to render "dddot" in math?
I want o denote a third derivative wrt time in the Newton notation with three dots above the variable. This does not work with the LaTeX "dddot" within the "math" tags. Any hints, Please? Purgy (talk) 10:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
How do I know what colour I am typing
can some1 plz help...I don't no what colour i am typing, and it is quite important, is there a lis for the codesRyan 868 (talk) 10:08, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Ryan, welcome to the Teahouse. There is a list of color codes at our Web colors article. If this is not what you are looking for, feel free to leave a reply below. Regards, Mz7 (talk) 19:48, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Can someone please explain "single-purpose editing" to me?
I've got a number of interests in quite a few things that a lot of people might not know that much about eg. Norse mythology/folklore, fantasy novels, J.R.R. Tolkien, Icelandic sagas/medieval Icelandic history, the Victorian era, musical theatre. I've just spent the last few minutes reading policy and guideline pages saying "single-purpose editing" is discouraged. Could someone please give me an idea of what exactly a person has to do for them to be considered a single-purpose editor? Thanks and sorry if it's something I should already know.
Sigurdrifa (talk) 06:47, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Sigurdrifa and welcome to the Teahouse. You might find this essay useful in helping you understand. Philg88 ♦talk 07:15, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi @Sigurdrifa: By all means, if you're interested in a few select subjects, do edit away! Most editors invest their time in particular subject areas, and there's nothing wrong with that. For example, I spend most of my time on articles related to video games and pages related to the city I'm in.
- On Wikipedia, single-purpose editing tends to refer to editors who appear to be here for a reason other than to help the encyclopedia - which can often involve pushing a particular viewpoint or advertising something. To give a very broad example, an editor pasting mentions of their company in various articles is problematic. Another example is an editor trying to push certain political views into articles. This is never okay, but editors that appear to be here solely to promote something are often labelled as single-purpose accounts to emphasize this, and efforts are made to guide them in the right direction.
- In the end, the point is that editors should be avoiding editing articles for subjects that they have a conflict of interest in. This shouldn't apply to the editing you mention involving history, novels, etc. :) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 07:18, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Adding to the excellent answers already offered, there are "good" single purpose editors and "bad" single purpose editors. For the sake of discussion, let's say that editor A is deeply interested in butterflies, has studied entomology at a respected university, and is thoroughly conversant with the scientific literature about butterflies. Editor A could work improving hundreds of butterfly articles here, collaborating in a friendly way with other butterfly editors, and could be considered a "single purpose butterfly editor". No one would criticize this editor, and we need many more "single purpose editors" like this one.
- On the other hand, consider Editor B, who is an advocate of one side of a nationistic dispute between country X and county Y. This editor is determined to portray country X in the best possible light and country Y in the worst possible light. Being intelligent, the editor always feigns neutrality, especially when challenged. But when they find a dozen reliable sources about the dispute, they will always select the six among them that portray Country X in the best possible light, and will nitpick and criticize any source that makes Country Y look good. All of their comments will reference Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and when their body of contributions are criticized, they will say that their advocacy is needed to balance the horrible Country Y advocates, and that criticism of their editing is part of a widespread conspiracy against the valiant Country X patriots. This is the kind of single purpose account that we have far too many of. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks guys. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigurdrifa (talk • contribs) 07:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Archiving stop
Hello, I'm back to the Teahouse again. Because I am having examinations soon, I would like my bot, ClueBot III to stop archiving my posts on my talk page, as I will be inactive for a long period of time. What do I disable? Ping if you have replied. DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 05:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi @Nahnah4: If you edit your talk page, you'll see the "User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis" template. You can simply change the "age" from 168 hours to a longer period of time, depending on how long you'll be out (say, 504 for three weeks). Or, you can simply remove the template and restore it when you get back to editing. Or, you could comment it out. There are probably even more ways to go about this, but pick whatever works best for you :) Good luck on exams! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:01, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, SuperHamster. After I posted this, I figured out how, and forgot to say it here. XP. Anyway, thanks! DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 06:04, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Genderqueer Pronoun Usage?
Hello, I recently reverted an edit on the Ezra Miller page for what I thought was vandalism as it had changed all of the pronouns describing the subject to the plural form, as seen here[1]. I was later informed on my talk page that Miller [2] self-identifies as gender queer and prefers non-binary pronouns. Is there any Wikipedia policy with which may shed light on how to proceed? I can't source that Miller has an inclination towards certain descriptors over others so I think the original masculine form should stand, but I'm just a little lost. Asdklf; (talk) 01:17, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- I hope Wikipedia:Gender_identity will help you. I have not found any more proscriptive policy yet... Regards, Ariconte (talk) 02:46, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you very much! Asdklf; (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Asdklf;:, I am by no mean the representative of consensus on wikipedia, but I support the usage of "they" as a singular pronoun for genderqueer persons. The use of they to refer to a singular person whose gender is unknown has long been a part of the English language informally and imo, is on the cusp of becoming considered "proper" English. My suggestion is to do some research on what is preferred in the genderqueer culture. If "they" is preferred, this may be a good time to ignore the rules! While it may not be proper English or whatever, I say erring on the side of causing less offense to people within that community. :-) Bali88 (talk) 19:25, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you very much! Asdklf; (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
How do I rename a page?
I want to rename a page and tried to move it, but it's not working. Can you help? LincolnCenterTheater (talk) 21:52, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi @LincolnCenterTheater: Welcome to the Teahouse! To rename a page, we perform what we call a page move. A page move moves a page to a new title, while preserving the article's history and associated talk page. This can be done by hovering over the "Move" tab at the top of a page, and clicking "Move". Moving articles should typically be used with caution, however, and it's often worth discussing on an article's talk page before moving.
- Only registered autoconfirmed editors may perform page moves, which you appear to be. Seeing that you have tried moving the page but are having trouble, could you specify what's going wrong exactly? ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 22:24, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- You might also try again. You were autoconfirmed on the 12th, yesterday, so it you tried yesterday and are reporting it today, it may be that simple. If you tried today, then it is something else.--S Philbrick(Talk) 00:21, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Umm, did no one who replied to this editor notice the name? JohnCD left a notice on their talkpage, but shouldn't they also be report to UAA? ArcAngel (talk) ) 08:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ArcAngel: no need, what UAA would do is just what I have done, leave a {{uw-username}} notice to invite them to change name, and point them to WP:PSCOI. JohnCD (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- @LincolnCenterTheater: has been blocked as a WP:CORPNAME. The user should create a new account with a user name that represents the individual user rather than the organisation.--ukexpat (talk) 18:39, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ArcAngel: no need, what UAA would do is just what I have done, leave a {{uw-username}} notice to invite them to change name, and point them to WP:PSCOI. JohnCD (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Umm, did no one who replied to this editor notice the name? JohnCD left a notice on their talkpage, but shouldn't they also be report to UAA? ArcAngel (talk) ) 08:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- You might also try again. You were autoconfirmed on the 12th, yesterday, so it you tried yesterday and are reporting it today, it may be that simple. If you tried today, then it is something else.--S Philbrick(Talk) 00:21, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Creating articles
How do I create an article. And what is all the code above this? Why doesn't "You may want to enter your question using the "Ask a Question" button on the question page. If you would like to ask your question manually, please type it directly underneath the dotted line below. Thanks! - Teahouse Hosts " show on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billy on Boxes (talk • contribs) 17:41, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi @Billy on Boxes: Welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia:Your first article provides a nice starting guide for creating your first article. Anyone can create an article, provided that the article meets notability guidelines. If you have any questions as you glance over the page, feel free to ask!
- As for the code you mention, that's an invisible comment. You'll see that the text is wrapped around
<!--
and-->
. This causes the text to be invisible on the page itself, but visible for anyone editing the page. This is useful for any notes that anyone editing the page might want to see, but don't want to be visible to readers. Hope this helps, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:19, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- thanks. BILL (talk) 19:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia formatting
Hello,
What are the box thingies on the user page, how do you add them, and how do you format articles on Wikipedia.
Lockheedfwmusic (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- HI Lockheedfwmusic, they are called userboxes, if you find one you like you can add it to your user page by finding it's name (use "edit source" if it's on someone's page and you will see this stuff) and putting it like this {{User Australia}} which looks like this
This user comes from Australia. |
.
- If you want a bunch of boxes then you can make a stack like this:
{{Userboxtop}} {{User Australia}} {{User writer}} {{User WikiProject Plants}} {{User en}} {{User Sustainable Living}} {{Userboxbottom}}
Which looks like this:
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- Formatting articles can be easy or hard, depending on what you want to do, and if you are using the "visual editor" or the "source editor"
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:17, 13 August 2014 (UTC).
- Yeah, Lockheedfwmusic, just that DO NOT ADD THE <nowiki> tags. DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 05:40, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Whoops, removed. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 08:17, 14 August 2014 (UTC).
- Whoops, removed. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 08:17, 14 August 2014 (UTC).
- Yeah, Lockheedfwmusic, just that DO NOT ADD THE <nowiki> tags. DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 05:40, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
New User: Posted my Article, Can someone please check for me?
I wrote my first article and it is in the list to be reviewed. I've done my best, I'd really appreciate you all looking this over for me.. please feel free to make any changes.. thanks so much!
ButterflyHoney (talk) 18:13, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hey ButterflyHoney, I've checked out your article and declined it. You can see why in the reasons I gave on the draft page itself. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- I have the feeling with your similiar user name that you are either Mariah Honey herself or probably someone of the family. I suggest you read WP:COI and that Wikipedia is not a site for promotion in general. If you want to increase your networking skill, etc. then I suggest linkedin, facebook and other such sites which are perfect for such a thing. NathanWubs (talk) 23:12, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Source on blacklist
I would like to use as a source for Zersetzung#Modern_use_of_Zersetzung_techniques an article I found on the Kavkaz Center website, which is blacklisted, and I cannot add the link to Wikipedia. The information is corroborated by a more mainstream source, but I would like more than one source. Thanks in advance for any help or clarification. CibléEnAmérique (talk) 17:09, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi there! Sadly we don't handle the removal of blacklisted links here at the Teahouse. Links that are on the blacklist have been hand selected due to their unreliability or untrustworthiness. If you would like to see the reference you are referring to here removed from the blacklist you have to have super compelling reasoning. You are going to have to go through the slightly painful process of proposing - and honestly I highly doubt your reference will be removed from the blacklist, but it can't hurt to try. Please visit THIS page and follow the instructions to propose having your link removed from the blacklist.
- I hope this helps! And I always suggest that you use a different type of WP:RELIABLE source instead of the one you selected, but, it's up to you :) Happy editing! Missvain (talk) 17:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. That source may be viewed as biased or having terrorist connections. I'm not sure. CibléEnAmérique (talk) 19:08, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Can I write an article that has the same content on a Wikipedia account I created, but was blocked only because of the username?
I opened a Wikipedia account, but it got blocked, because of the username. The content I put on the article about a company was very neutral. I asked for help and I was told I had two options to create and article myself or request an article to be made for me. I decided to create my own article, but I wanted to put the same information as I did on the account that got blocked because of the username. The information was very neutral and non promotional at all. Can I do that? Or no, because it is already in the Wikipedia system? But the account was blocked just because of the username.71.43.45.218 (talk) 16:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse. Regardless of your username, you would still have a conflict of interest since you're affiliated with the subject. If you wish to go ahead and try to recreate the article, use this process instead and (as required by our Terms of Use) declare your affiliation on your userpage or on your article draft or in your initial edit summary when creating the article draft. --Jakob (talk) 16:50, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Article rejection
I can't figure out why my article was rejected so I don't know what to change about it. I can't figure out how to use the live help feature. I am totally frustrated with Wiki. Help! (Kellyelle (talk) 16:23, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hey Kellyelle, welcome to the teahouse! Check out the links provided in your draft article Draft:T-Stylez to see what needs changing. If there are not independent reliable sources that talk in detail about the person, for example published music magazines, then maybe Wikipedia does not need an article about them yet? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:56, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
would love some editing help
I wrote my first article and it was promptly deleleted. I'm trying to be a lot more careful... So having done my best, I'd really appreciate you all looking this over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HelpingUlearn/sandbox It's short. But if it's okay, then I'll know I'm on the right track. Thanks! HelpingUlearn (talk) 15:10, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, HelpingUlearn and welcome to The Teahouse. The first and most obivous problem is section headings. Use two equals signs (=) on each side of each section heading. There is a template at the top of the page and I'm not sure it belongs. Since it is red, that must mean it ahsn't been created. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish there. As for your "Notes" section, which is usually called "References", it is better to have more information than just the URL in case the URL doesn't work at some point in the future. We want people who want to verify the information to have the ability to find the source. Or they might just want to read more. The "further reading" section should be structured the same way. You can use {{cite web}} if you want, or you can simply [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HelpingUlearn/sandbox do this]. Replace do this" after the URL will the title and other information that helps people find the source.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:17, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- A couple more things: "also known as" should not be bold. You would put those three apostrophes before and after each name of the organization. And we don't say "Mr." here. Oh, and you don't put your signature in the article. Your contribution is recorded in the article history.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
want some guide.
Plz guide. How can I link a site in reference. and what is reliable source and how can I link them to the changes I have made. And also what does it mean "Sign your posts on talk pages: Akshay Deokar (talk) 12:06, 13 August 2014 (UTC) Cite your sources: <ref></ref>".
- Hi @Akshay Deokar:, and welcome to the Teahouse. For the question you asked. The first question to put a site in the <ref></ref> tags, simply just put the site you want to link to inside them and put [] around. so if you were linking to google. You would put <ref>[www.google.com]</ref>. . An alternate way is, in the edit box, at the top right corner, there is a button named cite. Press the button, and select template. Then select cite web. Just fill in the fields and press insert.
- Signing your posts on Talk Pages aks you to identify who you are after you write a message. You can do this by putting ~~~~ at the end of your messages. But never sign the stuff you write in articles. cheers, and signing my post, TheQ Editor (Talk) 15:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Page formatting
Hi there. First question in the teahouse. I have just made an edit to a page about Beijing's twin cities, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twin_towns_and_sister_cities_in_China, but I think my editing (inclusion of Dublin as a new twin city in 2011, plus the reference) may have nudged the formatting out of line. I've tried to see how this happened, but just can't figure it out. Help! And thanks Marlow marlow (talk) 11:55, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Marlow Marlow! When you edited the page you removed the following bit of code:
{{col-end}}
. I have reinserted it now. Cheers, benzband (talk) 12:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Ben! I really appreciate that - I just couldn't figure how what I had done :) Gratefully Marlow marlow (talk) 12:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Is there a way to search all web pages in a reflist?
A certain article (this one, if it matters) currently has 131 entries in its reflist. My guess is that, given the amount of content overlap (mostly web-based news), 131 is about three times what it really needs to be.
The reason is that, when one needs to source a new fact, they search the entire web using a search engine, and they usually add a new ref. More times than not, the reflist already included one or more sources for the fact.
Is there a practical way to search only the URLs already in a reflist? Mandruss |talk 10:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Mandruss and welcome to The Teahouse. If anyone knows the answer, it might be the computing reference desk.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Here is a suggestion for how to do that with a Firefox bookmarklet. I don't know if that would work for 130 urls. If it fails, you could download all of the cited pages to a folder on your computer (how to do that is another question) and then search the folder. --Margin1522 (talk) 15:07, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response, Margin1522. Reference Desk hasn't replied to my question.
- Re the bookmarklet, I don't know Javascript.
- As for downloading all the pages to my computer, that would probably be within my technical ability, but the benefit wouldn't justify the time required to do it.
- I've seen a lot of homegrown tools around and was hoping there might already be one to address this problem. I guess it's not seen as that much of a problem, and I can live with that. Mandruss |talk 02:13, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
why my article remove from wikipedia again and again.
why my article remove from wikipedia again and again.Tanzeel Khokhar (talk) 09:40, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Tanzeel Khokhar! Are you referring to the article JazbaWelfare? It was first deleted following a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JazbaWelfare, and the latest incarnation was deleted again because it didn't make a "credible claim of significance" (see CSD#A7). I cannot see what the article looked like prior to deletion (only administrators can do that), but feel free to ask any specific questions you have as to its content to one of the deleting admins (Jac16888, FreeRangeFrog and Alexf).
- Also, you might be interested in checking out the following essay: Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?. Cheers, benzband (talk) 12:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Good articles and featured articles
Hello, I'm back again. I was nominating Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 as a good article, but it would not get reviewed, and it is pissing me off. After a while, I thought, "hey, why don't I nominate Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 a featured article instead of a good?" So I was wondering, can featured articles get nominated if they are not good articles yet? I nominated Taylor Swift as a featured article too, and the MH370 thing went to my mind. I hope you will answer, and help to review too. Please ping me if you have replied. Yours sincerely, DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 07:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Nahnah4, and welcome to the Teahouse! FAs do not have to be GAs first. However, in this case I'd recommend that you hold off on nominating. There are numerous sentences with five or six citations after them (a problem), and the prose is rough in places. I don't think this would be successful. Furthermore, you are not a major editor of the article, and as such may not be familiar with what the main writers consider lacking. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:55, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Which article? MH370 or TS? DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 08:27, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- MH370. I didn't look at Swift's article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:30, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
How to react to an old comment that is no longer valid on a talk page
How can I react to a comment that became invalid? What I mean by invalid is that it's no longer true and also out-dated. I thought of one of the following: 1- Delete the comment (that will not be appropriate) 2- Notify its owner about the status of their comment (I don't know how to do that) 3- Deny it by replying to the comment and express its invalidity. Rami.shareef (talk) 04:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Rami.shareef. Old talk page comments can be quite relevant to editors interested in how a specific article has developed. There is no need to respond in any way to an old comment that is not currently relevant. I would leave those old comments alone, unless the page is getting excessively long. In that case, standard practice is to archive the old threads. Please see WP:ARCHIVE for complete details. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Rami.shareef, a talk page comment is supposed to be signed. If it is signed properly, there will be a link to the person's talk page, and you can go there and click on "new section" and say what you want.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:30, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Rami.shareef (talk) 20:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
How to get back a blocked article
Hi.. I tried creating an article about the Nigerian rapper Johncongo but i can't why? i think is blocked ? Latertinsna 00:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Latertinsna (talk • contribs)
- Yes, according to the page logs, this article has "protection" against it from being recreated, due to it being "repeatedly recreated". BTW, trouting a bureaucrat is never a good idea. ArcAngel (talk) ) 00:44, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- You may wish to try creating this article at Draft:Johncongo. If a suitable article can be made, it will be copied to the main encyclopaedia. If not, at least a significant amount of time will be allowed to try. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:50, 13 August 2014 (UTC).
- @Latertinsna: Unfortunately, newly created articles about people can be speedily deleted from Wikipedia if they do not credibly indicate why the person is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. The article for Johncongo was repeatedly created and repeatedly deleted because each time it was recreated, the author did not indicate a claim to notability. As a result of this persistent cycle of recreation/deletion, the page has been, as what us Wikipedians say, "salted"—or protected against creation. If you still wish to write an article about Johncongo, I recommend using the Article Wizard. It will guide you in deciding if your topic is suitable for Wikipedia and if it is, the style your article should be written in. If you reach the end of the Wizard, use the articles for creation process, which will place a draft of your article for review by an experienced editor, who will then publish the draft if there are no glaring issues. Mz7 (talk) 03:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Talk page: Keep references on their section
Hello. I have written a section on a Wikipedia Talk page and added some references to it. The references are shown on the bottom edge of the Talk page, just after the last added –new– section, which deals with a completely different subject. For me, this is confusing, I think it would be better if the references remain stuck to their section. Please, is that possible? Thank you.--EnekoGotzon (talk) 21:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, there's two ways of doing this. The first is not to use <ref> </ref> on the talk page and just leave your citations in brackets. The other is to add {{reflist}} or {{reflist-talk}} at the end of the section you're referring to on the talk page rather than let it default to the bottom of the page. Nthep (talk) 21:42, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Now references are where they should. Thank you very much!--EnekoGotzon (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Changing name of article title (office name has changed)
Hello, I am trying to change the name for the page below, which has changed its name from the Global Partnership Initiative to the Office of Global Partnerships. So the new title should be "Secretary of State's Office of Global Partnerships" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Department_of_State_Global_Partnership_Initiative
I am new to Wikipedia editing, so based on my research, I think I have to move the page, but I am a little nervous about getting everything right to do that (as well as correct all the links to the page from other pages).
Any advice would be appreciated!
Onlyonenat (talk) 19:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Since you're a pretty new editor, I was bold and moved the page for you. ArcAngel (talk) ) 19:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, you just need one more edit until you become autoconfirmed. Meaning that you can move pages. All you need to do is click the more button with the little arrow beside the edit button. Select move and select a new name. Don't worry about it. Just be bold. Everything on Wikipedia is reversible. TheQ Editor (Talk) 20:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you!!! 169.253.194.1 (talk) 18:27, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
How do people start a wikiproject?
How do people start a wikiproject? Keslerdo (talk) 19:07, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I will point you to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide and Wikipedia:WikiProject which should give you the basics for them. ArcAngel (talk) ) 19:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Keslerdo, and welcome to the Teahouse! I don't think there's any sort of procedure. Just a group of editors with a common interest. What would this WikiProject be supporting? There may be a similar WikiProject that covers it, or a task force of an existing one that does. Then again, there isn't a WikiProject for every single article, either! --McDoobAU93 19:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Is anyone familiar with DYK?
I nominated an article for DYK: Template:Did you know nominations/List of hazing deaths in the United States. An editor commented that I needed to fix an issue: "the article do not have enough citations" a couple days ago then hasn't gotten back to me about what exactly that meant. I'd like to fix whatever problems it has today as I'm not going to have enough time in the next few days. Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about? The article looks fully sourced to me. Bali88 (talk) 18:59, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, Bali88, and welcome! I've worked with DYK a bit the last couple of months, and I took a look at the article and the proposed hook. There's plenty of citations, and each incident is cited, in my opinion. Have you tried reaching out directly to the editor who made the comment? --McDoobAU93 19:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Like on his talk page? No I haven't, I'll do that.Bali88 (talk) 19:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, @Bali88:, and thanks for your question. I have a lot of experience with DYK and my recommendation would be to keep all the comments related to the DYK nomination on the nom page itself, rather than on an individual editor's talkpage. This bodes well for transparency and allows other editors to participate in the conversation, if need be (for example, if the original reviewer is away for a few days). --Rosiestep (talk) 14:06, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Like on his talk page? No I haven't, I'll do that.Bali88 (talk) 19:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
user page?
How can I edit my user page?Keslerdo (talk) 18:44, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Keslerdo, you can edit your user page by clicking here or on your username in the top right of any Wikipedia window, then clicking the Edit button in the top right. For guidance on what to include on your userpage and how see this page. Sam Walton (talk) 18:47, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you!Keslerdo (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Question about the {{under construction}} tag
Is placing this tag on articles in the draftspace acceptable? Reason I ask is that I am currently working on a draftspace article (current status is declined), and wanted to let others know that it is currently undergoing revision. ArcAngel (talk) ) 16:37, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, ArcAngel. You don't need to put such a tag on a draft article. After it has been rejected for article creation, it will generally be allowed to remain in draft space for six months until it is deleted (see G13. Abandoned Articles for creation submissions) - unless it meets one of the other reasons for deleting a draft. RockMagnetist (talk) 16:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. I've only started working in the draftspace recently, so wasn't sure exactly how that worked. ArcAngel (talk) ) 16:58, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- A small expansion/clarification on the point made by RockMagnetist above: those six months apply after the most recent edit; that is, it takes six months without edit to count as a stale draft/abandoned AfC submission. So long as you keep working on the draft, it won't count as stale (but can indeed, as mentioned above, still be deleted if one of the other reasons for deleting a draft applies). AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying that. I do understand that rule, but the only time that I really tag drafts is if they are obvios copyvios, or if it exists in mainspace. ArcAngel (talk) ) 17:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- ArcAngel: You're welcome. Good luck with the draft! If you need some help on it, just let me know and I'll see what, if anything, I can do. Yeah, those (and obvious vandalism (including hoaxes and attack pages), as well as blatant advertisement) are probably the bulk of non-G13 draft deletions. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying that. I do understand that rule, but the only time that I really tag drafts is if they are obvios copyvios, or if it exists in mainspace. ArcAngel (talk) ) 17:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- A small expansion/clarification on the point made by RockMagnetist above: those six months apply after the most recent edit; that is, it takes six months without edit to count as a stale draft/abandoned AfC submission. So long as you keep working on the draft, it won't count as stale (but can indeed, as mentioned above, still be deleted if one of the other reasons for deleting a draft applies). AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. I've only started working in the draftspace recently, so wasn't sure exactly how that worked. ArcAngel (talk) ) 16:58, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
how can I upload image
I had taken a image of a place in my mobile.Then how can I upload it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akshay B Deokar (talk • contribs) 16:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi @Akshay B Deokar:, and welcome to the teahouse. First, you have to decide if the picture is free-use which it probably is since you said you took it. You can go to Wikimedia Commons and upload it with this link. If you are using mobile. You can download the Wikimedia Commons App and upload it from there. Cheers, TheQ Editor (Talk) 18:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Can I see which of my edits were deleted?
I just looked at my stats in Edit Count, and something concerned me. A surprisingly high percentage of my edits were counted as being deleted. I would like to find out what these deleted edits were, in case I am doing something wrong. Is there a way to "drill down" on that figure, to see which edits were counted in it? Gronk Oz (talk) 13:10, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- DoneNever mind - I kept looking and found the answer I needed. The glossary explains that a "deleted edit" means something different from what I assumed: it is "an edit that is no longer listed in an editor's contributions because the page has subsequently been deleted." That makes sense, because I wrote some articles in User pages so all their edits would be classed as "deleted edits". I'll stop worrying now, and get back to work! --Gronk Oz (talk) 15:13, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Soliciting talk advice
Hi again. Could I get some experienced eyes on this talk section? Have I presented a strong case, do you think? How would you improve it? Thanks, Mandruss |talk 10:31, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- It looks like a strong case to me, but what is the issue, are other's warring over this? Jab843 (talk) 16:35, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I thought it was a special situation that warranted talking first. It involves a move with a ton of affected links. And I wanted some feedback on whether my reasoning was sound in the first place. But you're right, I'll try the normal WP:BRD approach. Mandruss |talk 19:24, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Reliable Sources
Hi, I just joined Wikipedia a few days ago and I have been wanting to create an article. I have found many sources supporting the topics that I wanted to cover, but I am unsure of which sources are reliable enough for Wikipedia. Are there any specific requirements for a source to be acceptable? What type of sources are the best to use? Any help is greatly appreciated. Infinitely infinite (talk) 09:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Infinitely infinite, and welcome to the Teahouse. The best starting point is to read through the information at WP:SOURCE; it should answer most of your questions. It is also worth reading the following section, "Sources that are usually not reliable" to get a fuller picture. Then - if in doubt, ask. --Gronk Oz (talk) 13:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
how do i challenge a fact on wikipedia
how do i challenge a fact on wikipedia 66.241.132.116 (talk) 01:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello person editing from 66.241.132.116. Is the fact you wish to challenge cited to a published source using a inline citation? And if so, is the source that's cited to a reliable source? And if so (and if you can access it), does that reliable source actually corroborate the fact its cited for? These are important questions for any answer, though it always makes it vastly easier to tailor an answer if you don't ask your question in the abstract but tell us what article and what fact you are here about. The reason I've asked these questions is because they are important if you're going to invoke WP:BURDEN. As you'll learn at that section of the verification policy, if the fact is unsourced, you can challenge it, most commonly by adding next to it a {{Citation needed}} tag (the full text of the template is {{Citation needed|reason=Your explanation here|date=August 2014}}). Again, it's hard to tell if this advice is really applicable without the specifics.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Reason for large backlog in review?
I noticed there's a considerable backlog in the article review process right now (2334 submitted articles), is there any particular reason for that? I've had an article submitted for review for about a month now (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Logic_Supply) and every time I check the backlog just gets bigger. I've looked around the site for an indication of how long to expect a review to take and the answers seem to be all over the board. Just curious of there's a way to get feedback on the current version of my page, even if it isn't an "official" review I'd be interested to know what I can improve. I'd hate to wait all this long only to see it get rejected and then wait another month+ for it to be reviewed again once I've made adjustments. Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide. Mobydickulous (talk) 19:48, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Mobydickulous, although there is no definite reason as to why the AfC is backlogged, the reason probably is that all the reviewers are volunteers and are unable to keep up with the influx of new Articles. Hope this helped, Dathus (Talk | Contribs) 20:21, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- For what it's worth I think there is an important question here. Is the current process that Wikipedia uses sustainable? I'm a fairly new editor but the more I see things the more I think it's not. We have a culture that dates back to the earliest days of the Internet. But where we are now is radically different. We encourage people to do unsustainable things. We encourage new editors to create "their" first page when we should be encouraging them to fix the zillions of existing pages. We tell people that red links are a matter of opinion when anyone with basic knowledge of HCI would say they are a terrible idea,... --MadScientistX11 (talk) 23:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think that the AfC process could be improved so that it is easier and more clear when an article is up for review. Otherwise, yes, many of the existing articles need help as well.... Jab843 (talk) 00:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- It should be noted that the AfC process is optional. We steer new editors there, and make it seem like new articles have to go through it, but all autoconfirmed users have the technical ability, and the absolute right, to create an article from scratch right in the main article space, so long as the article meets basic Wikipedia standards of notability and referencing and is free from copyright violations and the like. For any editor who grows weary of waiting for a review, they can just put the article in the main space themselves. Of course, if it isn't up to minimum standards, it can be just as quickly deleted, which is why we steer new editors to AfC in the first place, to educate them on the standards so the articles don't get summarily deleted. But, if you want to take your chances, ultimately, there's no one stopping you from just creating an article. --Jayron32 01:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- All processes are imperfect. WP:AFC is intended to help, not to be the sole route to article creation. What is required is a larger pool of folk who will take, say, three articles per day and review them. Most folk try to run before they can walk and create tosh, or COI stuff, or adverts, or autobiographies, clogging the process with their unmitigated self aggrandising drivel. This obscures the meat. The problem is that all who submit deserve a fair review. This takes time. We hope they will learn. Apart from that we have lives. With Wikipedia's ever growing popularity there is an ever growing population who wish to add articles. Some even write the biography of their pet! The backlog is just a backlog. So learn your trade, and, once learned, come and help. Fiddle Faddle 09:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- It should be noted that the AfC process is optional. We steer new editors there, and make it seem like new articles have to go through it, but all autoconfirmed users have the technical ability, and the absolute right, to create an article from scratch right in the main article space, so long as the article meets basic Wikipedia standards of notability and referencing and is free from copyright violations and the like. For any editor who grows weary of waiting for a review, they can just put the article in the main space themselves. Of course, if it isn't up to minimum standards, it can be just as quickly deleted, which is why we steer new editors to AfC in the first place, to educate them on the standards so the articles don't get summarily deleted. But, if you want to take your chances, ultimately, there's no one stopping you from just creating an article. --Jayron32 01:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think that the AfC process could be improved so that it is easier and more clear when an article is up for review. Otherwise, yes, many of the existing articles need help as well.... Jab843 (talk) 00:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- For what it's worth I think there is an important question here. Is the current process that Wikipedia uses sustainable? I'm a fairly new editor but the more I see things the more I think it's not. We have a culture that dates back to the earliest days of the Internet. But where we are now is radically different. We encourage people to do unsustainable things. We encourage new editors to create "their" first page when we should be encouraging them to fix the zillions of existing pages. We tell people that red links are a matter of opinion when anyone with basic knowledge of HCI would say they are a terrible idea,... --MadScientistX11 (talk) 23:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
How to Create pages
Hi! Its DisneyGirl13.
How do you create a page. I found out about a movie so I was wondering how to do that. This movie doesn't have a page so can you tell the steps of making a page?
It would be very helpful.
DisneyGirl13DisneyGirl13 (talk) 16:49, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi DisneyGirl. There are a couple of different ways to create an article. The first is to go straight ahead and create it - to do that you would just attempt to navigate to the page (either with the search bar or by going directly there by changing the web address) and you will be asked if you want to start the page. For example if I wanted to write an article about myself (I don't) I might go to Sam Walton (Wikipedian) and click the link to start the article. An article created directly into article space is at risk of deletion if it doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards for notability though. Alternatively, you can go through the Articles for Creation process in which another editor will look over your article and make sure it's ok before moving it to article space. Whichever you choose be sure to have a read through the tutorial and how to cite references before starting, and feel free to ask for help here or on my talk page. Sam Walton (talk) 19:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, DisneyGirl13. The only thing I'd add to what Sam said is that not everything in the world merits a Wikipedia article. Sam touched on the issue of notability: if at the moment nobody has written any articles about the movie in reliable places like major newspapers (not fansites or blogs!) then the subject does not yet meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability and no article on it will be acceptable no matter how you write it. --ColinFine (talk) 19:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks guys. Thats all I needed to know. Is there anything else that I need to know?
DisneyGirl13DisneyGirl13 (talk) 22:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
How to use a talk page politely
Question from a brand-newbie. In the talk page for Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant there is a discussion under the heading 'Isis is officially a terrorist organization'. I want to comment in that discussion, suggesting that a piece of the article which claims the UN Security Council officially designates ISIS/ISIL to be a terrorist organization be removed because the source used to justify it does not actually have the word terrorist anywhere in the text. My question is maybe more about Wiki manners... I know to indent my comment on the talk page so that it shows up as a comment, but there are so many indents in the discussion, and I'm not sure whether to follow in a thread with a lot of indents or to start a new comment thread. This may seem like a silly question but I don't want to seem rude. Would you mind going through the process of participating in a talk page conversation? Thanks! Zurose (talk) 16:16, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Zurose, and welcome! The most important rules with engaging in talk page discussions are to stay on the topic of improving the article (not discussing the subject itself, as it is not a forum), assuming good-faith on behalf of your fellow contributors and remaining civil throughout. As to formatting, that's personal preference. If you believe that a conversation has too many indents, feel free to start a new outdent using the "outdent" template, especially if it's a new point and not following on someone else's. Feel free to ask for more clarification and we'll be glad to help you! --McDoobAU93 16:23, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you, User:McDoobAU93! Zurose (talk) 16:39, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Firstly, Zurose, I congratulate you on taking etiquette seriously - the more controversial the subject, the more important it becomes. Secondly, here is an example of using the "outdent" template when conversations get indented too far. Edit this page to see how it works in practice. --Gronk Oz (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Gronk Oz, and thanks for the help! I used an outdent on the above-mentioned talk page, although in retrospect I think I could have just started a new line. I also noticed after that edits aren't allowed on that page until December due to vandalism, so I guess I'll have to wait to change that one! Thanks again! Zurose (talk) 09:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Zurose, I'm not a senior editor but I guess I'm competent to chime in here on that last question. The article is semi-protected until December, as it says in the tooltip when you hover over the "lock" symbol at the top of the page. Semi-protected doesn't prevent all edits to the article; but it puts some restrictions on who can edit it. To edit a semi-protected article:
- You must be a registered user, and your account must be at least four days old.
- You must have performed at least ten previous edits while logged in to your account.
- You must be logged in.
- These restrictions greatly reduce vandalism because many vandals either don't have an account or have just created one. Your account is about three days old, and you have about 65 edits, so you should be allowed to edit the article within about 24-36 hours. Mandruss |talk 11:13, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Zurose, I'm not a senior editor but I guess I'm competent to chime in here on that last question. The article is semi-protected until December, as it says in the tooltip when you hover over the "lock" symbol at the top of the page. Semi-protected doesn't prevent all edits to the article; but it puts some restrictions on who can edit it. To edit a semi-protected article:
- Great tip, Mandruss! Thank you so much! Zurose (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
A TRICKY QUESTION
In the valley of the blind the one-eyed man is the king, who is this or what is this? FIND THE ANSWER FAST AND SEND THE ANSWER TO ME, DURYODANANDURYODANAN (talk) 14:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi there DuryoDanan, and welcome to the Teahouse! This sounds like a question for the Entertainment Reference Desk, as this sounds like a classic riddle. Have you tried using Google or Bing for the answer, too? --McDoobAU93 14:15, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- NO I HAVEN'T TRIED IT. COULD YOU PLS TRY IT AND GET ME AN ANSWER.DURYODANAN (talk) 14:20, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- It's a quote from August Wilson, Gem of the Ocean. Theroadislong (talk) 14:30, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- I have to admit, I'm curious as to the sense of urgency on this. What's the rush? --McDoobAU93 14:30, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- I KNOW THAT IT IS A QUOTE FROM HIM . I AM ASKING WHAT IS THE ANSWER OF THIS.
- THE PERSON WHO GAVE ME THIS QUESTION TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS A PUZZLE AND THAT IF WE THINK WE WILL GET THE ANSWER AND ITS ANSWER IS SOOOOOOO SIMPLE.
- I HAVE TO RUSH. I WANT TO GIVE THIS ANSWER TOMORROW. PLS HELP ME.DURYODANAN (talk) 14:48, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Again, I'd try Googling/Binging it or asking at the Reference Desk. Those would be your best options for a speedy response. --McDoobAU93 14:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- I TRIED GOOGLE. BUT OF NO USE. COULD YOU ASK AT REFERENCE DESK. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT . THANKS FOR HELPING ME. YOU ARE TRULY A FRIEND. I WILL VISIT YOUR TALK PAGE IF I GET TIME.DURYODANAN (talk) 15:03, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- It is an aphorism. See Desiderius_Erasmus#Writings for more information, and the more usual phraseology. Please stop typing in ALL CAPITALS, it is impolite and very annoying. Fiddle Faddle 15:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Erasmus may have been inspired by John Skelton who wrote "an one eyed man is well syghted when he is amonge blynde men", apparently in reference to Thomas Wolsey who looks like the "real" answer. But I guess the questioner is looking for a made-up answer vaguely resembling the quote. Maybe something silly like "Samuel L. Jackson because he plays the one-eyed leader Nick Fury and has also played [whatever, he has played a lot]". PrimeHunter (talk) 16:09, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'd prefer that we stop enabling this behavior. This isn't the riddle answer forum. --S Philbrick(Talk) 00:26, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Previewing in Uploading to commons.wikimedia
I got the chance to preview the picture I intended to upload. When I did, the pic appeared cropped at the rims in the preview, so I nominated an other file, revised the description and tried to preview again - nope, no reaction. What did I wrong, please? Or are you not in charge for Wikimedia? Purgy (talk) 11:49, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Purgy. I'm not too familiar with Wikimedia Commons so unfortunately I can't help, but you should be able to get an answer to your question at the Commons help desk. Sam Walton (talk) 19:44, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi,Samwalton9, thanks, I turned there. Purgy (talk) 09:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Can you add variables to an infobox?
If so, can it be changed on the transcluded infobox appearing on pages?Ack! Ack! Pasta bomb! (talk) 00:38, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- I am not completely sure myself, but I believe the answer to your question lies either in Help:Infobox or Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes). ArcAngel (talk) ) 05:58, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
capsular warning syndrome
This subject is a sub-set of the medical condition known as transient ischaemic attack. It is important because people with this diagnosis have a high risk of developing stroke. I would like an expert to create a wikipedia article on this topic.
Bedserfan (talk) 23:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Bedserfan, and welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia has an option called "Requested articles" (here: WP:REQ). You can go there, find the appropriate sub-section (apparently Medicine --> Diseases; conditions; signs; symptoms) and add your request. It would be helpful if you also provide some reliable sources (links to internet sites, books, newspaper articles) about the subject. But you should understand that Wikipedia is a volunteer service, so it is always better to write the article yourself, even if you are not an expert. See here how to write an article: WP:FIRST. If you make a mistake, don't wary, some more experienced editor will notice it and help you. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:57, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
- Vanjagenije, I must repectfully disagree with your advice. Bedserfan, if you are indeed new to Wikipedia, welcome, and it is not always better to write the article yourself, because new editors are not experienced. But if you makes a real effort to follow the directions, it is possible to create an acceptable article. Using WP:AFC and writing the article in draft space will be helpful so the article can be brought up to standard before going to mainspace, where new editors' work is frequently deleted.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:47, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
problems regarding a page i made. $unny çheema (talk) 21:39, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I made this page called Sunny Cheema on wikipedia. It is a biography of an artist. But wikipedia says This article appears to be written like an advertisement. And also that Some or all of this article's listed sources may not be reliable. Please help me clear this. I can't understand what's wrong. ? $unny çheema (talk) 21:39, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, $unny çheema, welcome to the Teahouse. Statements like "Sunny always aimed to be a successful artist, a playback singer and actor who loves to live in heart of his audiences" are considered promotional or "advertising" because there is no independent source that says this. (An interview doesn't count as independent.) There don't seem to be a lot of independent, reliable sources to demonstrate notability, so this article will likely be deleted. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 23:06, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
- $unny çheema, you may want to consider changing your username. You are not allowed to use a name that is the same name as that of another person. You might be able to add something to your name that would get around that rule, but I don't know that $ and ç would qualify.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Accurate vs. Concise
A few weeks ago, I was able to witness a conflict between accuracy and conciseness. Particular sections of a Wikipedia page (about a television show) was unclear and very inaccurate. Several people attempted to add to this page in order to make the page more clear and accurate (which it succeeded at very nicely). However, other users started an edit war and reverted back all of their work (in order to stay within the word limit); while this did keep the summaries within the word limit, it also returned the article to its sub-standard state. I eventually solved the issue by incorporating the added information with the necessary information and making it concise, but that took many hours of my time. So, as a general rule, which reigns supreme--Accuracy or Conciseness? Coulson Lives (talk) 17:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comprehensiveness is a prerequisite for conciseness. Removing vital information from an article to adhere to some tentative word-count guideline is counterproductive. I really need that username (talk) 19:46, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- What is this "word limit" you are referring to? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:35, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
- Apparently there is a word limit of 200 words for summaries for television show episodes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coulson Lives (talk • contribs) 03:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- 200 was a bit strict, but the vital information was kept (not easy doing that though) the only information really dropped were minor parts of the plot. Also adding on a couple of new words to the summaries would have been fine, it was the fact that the person who made the initial edits that started the conflict added in trivial information and bulked the summaries up more than they needed be. Around 200 was the normal amount so from say just under 200 to around 250 words, any higher would have been to big.
- And besides, the limit for a 2-3 hour film is 400-700 words (See WP:PLOTBLOAT) so for a 45 minute TV show, 200 actually makes sense.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 09:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)