Talk:Polygyny

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Legality map

Utah supreme court declared last year that polygamy can't be banned because Amendment I. Map colour should be changed to that of "not fully criminalized." 216.137.192.89 (talk) 07:03, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but you are misinformed; to quote a well written summary, currently located on the cohabitation article:

On December 13, 2013, US Federal Judge Clark Waddoups ruled in Brown v. Buhman that the portions of Utah's anti-polygamy laws which prohibit multiple cohabitation were unconstitutional, but also allowed Utah to maintain its ban on multiple marriage licenses (Schwartz, John (September 14, 2013), "A Law Prohibiting Polygamy is Weakened", New York Times, retrieved 2014-01-13; Mears, Bill (December 14, 2013), "'Sister Wives' case: Judge strikes down part of Utah polygamy law", CNN.com, CNN, retrieved 2014-01-13; Stack, Peggy Fletcher (December 14, 2013), "Laws on Mormon polygamists lead to win for plural marriage", The Salt Lake Tribune, retrieved 2014-01-13). Unlawful cohabitation, where prosecutors did not need to prove that a marriage ceremony had taken place (only that a couple had lived together), had been a major tool used to prosecute polygamy in Utah since the 1882 Edmunds Act (Embry, Jessie L. (1994), "Polygamy", in Powell, Allan Kent (ed.), Utah History Encyclopedia, Salt Lake City, Utah: University of Utah Press, ISBN 0874804256, OCLC 30473917).

No changes are needed. ^—Asterisk*^Splat→ 15:27, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Map color labelling seems wrong. For Canada, USA, Australia and UK the dark grey color indicates that "Polygamy permitted and practiced". QunitusFabiusMaximus (talk) 12:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Motive for taking another wife

From what I've read, at least sometimes a man takes a new wife because he wants a younger sexual partner. If this is true, shouldn't it be mentioned? Or does this happen only rarely? My impression from my readings is that it's rather frequent. deisenbe (talk) 18:42, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

As always, reliable sources are needed. Nell nell (talk) 14:14, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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Recent edits

Am I alone in thinking that 92slim's recent edits[1] (although helpful in some respects) have removed a lot of referenced information and left the article (esp. the lede) much less neutral? Uanfala (talk) 10:44, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

In the lede, I've removed source clutter and explained the current situation that explains the commonality and legality of polygamy in the most concise way; as bigamy only applies to certain jurisdictions, I've removed this reference from the lede as well. I've changed the titles of headings since they don't correspond with the text, namely the "extent" section didn't really explain the actual extent of polygyny neither any particular economic benefits since the actual reason being reproductive is underlined afterwards. It is explained that in fact it can be detrimental to families both socially and economically. I've removed references to levirate marriage, which is not polygyny, also removed an Iranian study funded by its totalitarian government and merged sections which come from the same article about Kenya, which was the only study critical to polygyny. I have merged the "countries" section with the main "Legal status" article, and added info on the religious aspect from the main "Polygamy" article. I don't see any changes in POV, and rather would say it reads slightly more neutral and free of information completely unrelated to the topic. --92slim (talk) 17:41, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad: I hadn't looked hard enough and was just knee-jerk reacting to the removal of a source and the mention of Muslim countries in the lede. Uanfala (talk) 20:38, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Map of polygyny w.r.t. Russia

Copied from my talk page regarding the map, Russia, and a certain edit removing the map in its entirety:

In accordance with WP:PROVEIT "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material". Your will never find a reliable source proving existence of criminal liabilty for polygyny in Russia. So do not add the lying picture to the article, please. Раммон (talk) 12:50, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@Раммон: I might suggest that, instead of edit warring over the picture in the English Wikipedia, you should go to Commons and see about having the image changed. If indeed the image is incorrect, then it should be fixed in all Wikipedias. --Izno (talk) 12:52, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@Раммон: Additionally, the sources are provided lower down in the article. My read is that polygamy is effectively banned in Russia. --Izno (talk) 13:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

I do not care what your think about effectiveness of polygamy banning in Russia, but the section proves that there is no criminal punishment for polygamy in Russia. And the lying picture that your try to insert in the article asserts that there is criminal punishment for polygamy in Russia. Раммон (talk) 13:04, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@Раммон: Let's talk to the original author--hopefully he is around. @92slim: On what sources did you base the coloring of File:Legality of polygamy.svg? --Izno (talk) 13:07, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@92slim: Going to re-ping, though I noticed you haven't been on in a week and a half. I'll also leave a comment at the WikiProjects listed above. --Izno (talk) 13:44, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

@Раммон:@Izno: I have seen that the deletion request is waiting to be withdrawn since someone already has edited the map. Let me know if there are any other problems. Remember it's a SVG file, it can be edited safely with a vector graphics program. --92slim (talk) 06:53, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

92slim, the next mistake is Ukraine - Crimial Code of Ukraine does not contain such crime as polygamy or polygyny. It is unclear who was the ignoramuse that made this map. Раммон (talk) 11:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

@Раммон: I haven't made the map, it was already made, but in PNG format. All I did was transform it into a SVG file, so it can be edited. If you have objections to colours, you can edit it with a vector editor. It's pretty simple to use. --92slim (talk) 08:47, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Edited Ukraine. Please next time, just edit the map if you know which country is wrong - don't ask me, I have no idea because I am not the maker of the map, the original maker made it in PNG version. --92slim (talk) 08:53, 20 December 2016 (UTC)