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A kitten for you!

You are welcome.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:57, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, thanks! SerChevalerie (talk) 19:06, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

You are most welcome brother. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:47, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Be careful with that "rollback" button lol. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, Yeah sorry SerChevalerie (talk) 14:37, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Misc fixes

I am not sure what was the intention, but you ended up removing archive links here Please revert back if it was unintentional. regards.DBigXrayᗙ 18:20, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I only removed the archive links for the links which are still live. These add unnecessary bulk to a page. Regularly running IABot to prevent link rot is a much better idea. SerChevalerie (talk) 19:59, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

SerChevalerie, ok. Thanks for elaborating. DBigXrayᗙ 20:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Did you do it manually or did you do it using some tool. May be you can do the same on Citizenship Amendment Act protests, That page is becoming very big. So this may be useful. --DBigXrayᗙ 14:23, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I did it manually, will look into it when I have time. SerChevalerie (talk) 14:29, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

SerChevalerie, yes, No hurries. Please do link this thread in your edit summary when you do it. That page gets a lot of vandalism, so linking it will help to avoid confusion. regards. DBigXrayᗙ 14:32, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray, noted. SerChevalerie (talk) 14:34, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Also FYI User:Gog the Mild (since he added a few of these archive links on my watchlisted pages. --DBigXrayᗙ 15:29, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

SerChevalerie, I can understand your point. But trust me its not a good idea with citations of The Hindu, The India Today, The Hindustan Times, The Times of India and several other Indian news cite. You advised to run IABot. But trust me it will not help with these citations. You can't recover any of the citation once they are removed from the sites. I know that because I have faced these issues several times, as I used to work with sport statistics and records I frequently revisit the citations and have seen it several times, totally lost. So better to keep archived links of these citations before it totally lost. Dey subrata (talk) 19:13, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, once you run the IA bot, there is a back up created in wayback machine at the same link. to get that link, just search the Wayback Machine with the keyword = URL of the news site. So what is necessary is to add an archive. Adding the archive link is not necessary step as it can be done any time. The problem with CAA protest, JNU attack and a few other pages is they have become too long and these archiveurl is adding to it. When you remove the archive url you dont remove the actual arhive of the page, it is still there. I can probably tolerate archive URL additions for smaller pages, but for large articles, they should only be added for dead links. --DBigXrayᗙ 19:34, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray, I know what IA bot do and I know about wayback mahcines, I often use during GA, FA,FL noms. "...once you run the IA bot, there is a back up created in wayback machine at the same link. to get that link.." Exactly, but when the link or the url will not be existed, I mean the whole thing is removed from server, no IA bot can ever recover the article. I dealt with such a things a lot of times. For example this one ( https://www.fifa.com/live-scores/1994 )- This was a FIFA link for India team matches and statistical records from 1994. Like this every country had statistcial page for each and every year they played, now those things are totally removed from server or links are no more, no dead link nothing totally removed, even IA bot could not recover. Same happens with some of The Hindu and The Hindustan Times article. I have encountered such several times. Thats why I am asking for it. And thats why I often add the archived link of The Hindu and The India Today or the Hindustan times. Secondly, if the article is ever gone for GA or FA nom, where its always asked to get all citations to be archived and our ultimate goal is to make FA articles after all. Dey subrata (talk) 00:45, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

One can manually recover from a dead link if IAbot is not picking up the dead link. But the archive will continue to exist forever in Wayback Machine. SerChevalerie (talk) 02:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

SerChevalerie, agree. DBigXrayᗙ 02:20, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Archive will continue to exist if only someone archive these links in the WBM in the first place which Gog did. I think you both are not getting my point, I am not talking about dead links, I am talking about the whole thing being removed from server, no clouds, no deep storage, no traces of the article, like the example that I have given above. Please manually recover the FIFA article that I have mentioned above to justify what you are saying. If you can do it, I will agree with you. Dey subrata (talk) 03:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, So let's continuously archive the links with the option to "Add archive links to non-dead references" left OFF in IABot. That archives the links in Wayback Machine while leaving no traces on WIkipedia. If IABot can't pick up a link that's now dead, one can manually add it by searching for it in Wayback Machine (since it was already archived before). SerChevalerie (talk) 05:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, The link https://www.fifa.com/live-scores/1994 is not on WBM because no one archived it when the link was up. Now when then link is moved/deleted Nothing can be done about it. No one is asking you not to run IABOT to create archive links. The concern is not to check the add archive links option. DBigXrayᗙ 10:16, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray and SerChevalerie, Yup, so one must do it, if not adding the archived link at wiki, but atleast archiving them on WBM time to time manually or through tools, more links are going to be added in coming days. Dey subrata (talk) 14:43, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, Ref links are not a problem. Adding archive links in wikipedia article when the reflink is alive is. If you keep the option of "Add archive links" unchecked then no link will be added, but the ref site will still be archived. DBigXrayᗙ 14:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

PunjabCinema07, kindly see the above discussion as to why I have reverted your changes. Please follow the recommended actions in the future. Thanks. SerChevalerie (talk) 08:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3, kindly see the above discussion as to why I have reverted your changes. SerChevalerie (talk) 06:34, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Ok, that is a useful discussion.

Actually, it may not even be necessary to run the IAbot. Archive/Wayback seem to have figured out that Wikipedia is an important resource and whatever we cite should be archived. (I don't know if they tweaked it manually or their learning algorithms figured it out.) I am yet to find a newspaper article that was cited here in the last 10 years or so, which hasn't been archived. For non-news web pages (government sites or private organisations), I can't say for sure.

I am not saying that we shouldn't run IAbot. But the way some people do it, within a few days of a new page getting created, is overdoing it. The right time to run IAbot would be after the article stabilised.

Also, it occurs to me that we can always do the SerChevalerie trick. If somebody runs the IAbot and adds loads of archive links, we an revert it with no harm being caused. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Wallyfromdilbert, kindly refer to this discussion to better understand why I had reverted your changes. TL;DR: IABot stores an archive in the Wayback Machine, the archive links need not be stored in the article where they will add unnecessary bulk while the ref links are still active. SerChevalerie (talk) 04:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree with removing the archive links. They add benefit to the article by providing a stable link, and they are more useful to add before links go dead. Even with an archive stored, the point of the bot is to add the links to the article so that they do not have to be retrieved later. I am not aware of any community discussion that has determined that the archive bot should only be used for dead links. This is why the "url-status" parameter exists, to allow for a different display of the link for live links with archive link already added. If you are the only one supporting removing the archives from a page that has been included by more than one other editor, then you need to use the article's talk page to reach a consensus for that page. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, I just wanted to add that I have no idea what the "unnecessary bulk" statements are about for an online encyclopedia where the only text seen by readers of the article is an extra line in the references section. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 19:59, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for North East Delhi riots

On 26 February 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article North East Delhi riots, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. --⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 10:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Would not have been possible without your helping hand to update this.--⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 10:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! SerChevalerie (talk) 15:12, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

What is automatic cite?

Hey. You said on the talk page simply use the "automatic cite" option in the future. What's that option? How do I use it? —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 07:18, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Sarvatra, see WP:REFBEGIN and WP:CITE. SerChevalerie (talk) 07:24, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Sarvatra, Crash course here User:DBigXray/ref--⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 07:28, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Is this how I send a message here?

I am sorry if I am doing this wrong.

Hi SerChevalerie, thanks for the welcome cookies 😀

I am still learning my ways around. I'd probably come back here asking questions soon.

Thank you

SkepticTanker (talk) 16:44, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

SkepticTanker, welcome! SerChevalerie (talk) 19:19, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks... Banswalhemant (talk) 19:34, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

North East Delhi riot Pictures.

I have clicked some pictures of riot-affected area. You can use these pics in the article North East Delhi riots.

North East Delhi Riots 2020

North East Delhi Riots

Delhi Riots 2020

North East Delhi Riots 2020 (1)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Banswalhemant (talk • contribs) 09:57, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Banswalhemant, thank you for all the contributions! I am sorry for the late reply, I was off Wikipedia when you had first posted on my Talk page. Keep up the good work! SerChevalerie (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

It's my pleasure sir.Banswalhemant (talk) 20:29, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Tejasvi Surya's article

In context to the "Allegation of abuse" section on Tejasvi Surya's article, the commission has dropped the case after the woman in question rubbished the allegations made against Surya. There are several articles in media which say that Karnataka Women's Commission dropped the charges since the case was fake. Also read, WP:CSECTION, Allegation sounds negative, Reception is much neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sankoswal (talk • contribs) 15:05, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Delhi Riots

Hello, SerChevalerie,

It seems like this edit completely changed the meaning of the paragraph, from talking about a day where bodies were still being found to a day of quiet and peace. What talk page discussion are you referring to to justify this 180 degree change of meaning? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liz, I feel that the fact about bodies being found is not relevant to the timeline, since bodies are still being found in the sewers. I have updated the section since then. Please refer to the discussion at Talk:North_East_Delhi_riots#End_date_-_29_February. Thanks. SerChevalerie (talk) 08:18, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, SerChevalerie,

Why is there no mention of Sonia Gandhi's Sadako pe utar aao and aar par ki ladai speech which set the stage for the Anti-CAA protests? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.5.134.163 (talk) 09:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia only summarises what reliable sources publish, and as per the sources found till now, Sonia Gandhi is already mentioned as having had FIR(s) filed against her for hate speech. The rest has not been deemed worthy in the narrative of the riots. If you have well-reputed source(s) that can prove that her speech was important to "set the stage" for the riots, please let me know. SerChevalerie (talk) 14:34, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Meenakshi Lekhi a MP has on record stated the chronology of events about Anti-CAA protests began after Sonia Gandhi's speech of aar paar ki ladai and sadako pe utar aao. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/delhi-riots-bjp-mp-meenakshi-lekhi-speech-lok-sabha-1654459-2020-03-11 Umar Khalid speech that a message has to be sent when Donald Trump visits India. Are these not reliable enough for you? Please try to maintain a tone of neutrality to your editing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.5.134.163 (talk) 07:19, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

edit summeries

Are supposed to be accurate, thus if you say "adding stuff in accordance with talk page" and also tack on a bit extra, that is not an honest edit summery (see WP:ES also consensus to add X is not consensus to add Y.Slatersteven (talk) 13:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Slatersteven, Noted, thanks. SerChevalerie (talk) 13:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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Yoonadue

The alert above is what you should have given Yoonadue, their talk page isn't under sanctions. No one can be sanctioned without an alert. I did the revert myself in my official capacity as they won't be back for a while I assume. Doug Weller talk 10:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Doug Weller, noted and my apologies. SerChevalerie (talk) 10:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Citations

Hi SerChevalerie, you did these fixes by hand? I had assumed the bot did them. Isn't that a huge waste of time? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:31, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey Kautilya3, yes I did those fixes manually. The two bots I use (Citation Bot and refill) somehow miss a lot, especially the date formats from ToI. Any suggestions? SerChevalerie (talk) 11:21, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Well, I intentionally avoid the citation templates for newspaper articles, because I find them not worh the trouble. But all the required information is there in my citations. There should be no need to convert them.

If you are really picky, you might remove everything except the bare url and then citation bot will pick it up. But I notice that it cannot always find the requisite information. For example, here, it picked up one and failed the other. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Makes sense, thanks. SerChevalerie (talk) 11:39, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3, speaking of manual citations, noted from this edit that you too are manually entering reference information. {{cite news}} is much more intuitive to use (and read), even if you are adding citations manually and not using Citoid. SerChevalerie (talk) 14:28, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Foreign agency interference

The role of Pakistan's agency isi has been to unstabilize Kashmir. By using the loop hole of our democreacy, it is our intention to enable the whole of India using relgious scholars. For this, funds have been sent, which the NIA is investigating, the results will be in front of everyone very soon. Shiv bharose (talk) 02:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Shiv bharose, what do you want me to do with this "information"? SerChevalerie (talk) 09:33, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

please noted this in some edits . Shiv bharose (talk) 12:30, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Shiv bharose, provide me some WP:RS for the same, and in what context you want me to add this. SerChevalerie (talk) 12:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Iam just wating for NIA investigation results . Because police arresting some peoples . Shiv bharose (talk) 12:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Shiv bharose, and which article is this related to? SerChevalerie (talk) 12:34, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, because it is like a chain connected. The forign agency is involved in the volince in India. NIA is investing. Shiv bharose (talk) 12:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I can only tell you that you do not understand the game behind the scenes Shiv bharose (talk) 12:42, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

They are trying to penetrate our loop holes in indian democracy . So they are using indian minority religious person for spraying whabenism in india . They are funded a lot of money for this

Shiv bharose (talk) 20:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Mary Wollstonecraft Award

		Mary Wollstonecraft Award
		On behalf of WP:WPWW, thank you for creating the recent new article on Hema Naik, Konkani language writer from Goa, who is a Sahitya Akademi Award winner. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:40, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! SerChevalerie (talk) 19:45, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

A WikiCookie for you!

I really tried looking for the plate of cookies but couldn't find it. Thanks! DTM (talk) 10:37, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! SerChevalerie (talk) 19:54, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh yes, and please do mind WP:WIKIHOUNDING incase you haven't seen the page before. Not WP:INDCRIT but WP:FORG as part of WP:EQ. Cheers. DTM (talk) 02:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

DiplomatTesterMan, definitely not Wikihounded anybody. I guess I've been pretty strict on user talk pages recently, but my patience has been worn thin by unconstructive edits on high-traffic pages for which clean reverts are not possible. Will be mindful in the future, though, thanks; everyone needs a reminder once in a while. SerChevalerie (talk) 03:46, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the considerate reply. I finally found the plate of cookies I was looking for!

Hope you aren't on a diet

Now back to editing! I replied on the comments over at Talk:Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in India DTM (talk) 07:32, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that SC. I can't say go for a walk in the park. Funny times! But I can say listen to some beautiful music, which will put your mind at rest. I had put my player on shuffle recently, and this song popped up. It took me back to another world! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 00:25, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

And you can munch on the yummy cookies while listening to Bano! I am not sure how well cookies and Bano go though. :) DTM (talk) 14:04, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

DiplomatTesterMan, Kautilya3, thanks for the kind words (and recommendations!). SerChevalerie (talk) 18:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments at my Talk page

Will strive more passionately and judiciously to restore NPOV in wiki :) --YoloSCIS (talk) 07:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

India 10,000 challenge

Hello SerChevalerie. You are invited to join the new WikiProject India 10,000 Challenge, a challenge which aims to see 10,000 improvements, destubs, and creations for Indian articles, covering every state of India and topic. Articles on all related topics are welcome. We need numbers to make this work and do something extraordinary for India on Wikipedia! Every 100 articles submitted will be copied into the wider Asian challenge. Sign up on the page if interested and start contributing! If you know someone who might be interested, please invite them by: {{subst:WikiProject India/The 10,000 Challenge Invite|~~~~}} Thanks, Dey subrata (talk) 12:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! SerChevalerie (talk) 18:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

A much needed appreciation

		A glass of Lassi for you
		Here is a glass of Lassi for you. Lassi is a traditional Indian dahi (yogurt) based drink. Seeing your continuous effort and the recent addition of the migrant workers materials. I am very much aware how much effort it took to go through a long list fo citation. Cool cheers with a sip of lassi !! Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 20:51, 12 May 2020 (UTC) For more Indian dishes, visit the Kitchen of WikiProject India.

Thanks a ton! SerChevalerie (talk) 21:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Here are some reliable sources for figures and stats if you have not seen yet. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 22:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! SerChevalerie (talk) 07:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit war

You have made about 4 reverts to retain completely nonsense content. Don't forget that you can be blocked for such non-stop disruption. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.170.18.17 (talk • contribs)

Yeah, I came here to say the same thing. Take it easy, SerChevalerie. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

IP user, that's rich of you to say, considering you have made 10 reverts. And thanks, Kautilya3. SerChevalerie (talk) 12:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Indian migrant workers during the COVID-19 pandemic

Hey there, I noticed your work on the mentioned wikipedia page, I really appreciate your efforts! I have been collecting news pieces tracking the events of the exodus, I am sharing a link below to the list, it has the sources sorted chronologically and state-wise, I hope it helps. It is a dynamic list, and will try my best to keep it up to date. Compilation of news pieces. Ashlesh007 (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)