Jump to content

Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 130.233.213.199 (talk) at 11:04, 6 May 2021 (→‎Ongoing: COVID-19 vaccination: O already covered). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

This page provides a place to discuss new items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page (see past items in the ITN archives). Do not report errors in ITN items that are already on the Main Page here— discuss those at the relevant section of WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. A light green header appears under each daily section – it includes transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day. You can discuss ITN candidates under the header.

Hassan Nasrallah
Hassan Nasrallah

Glossary

  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

Purge this page to update the cache

Headers

  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

  1. Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten.
  2. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page.
  3. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible.

Please do not...

  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself.
  2. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive.
  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest.
  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here.
  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates

There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
  • Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.
Skip to top
Skip to bottom

Archives

May 6

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


Ongoing: COVID-19 vaccination

Article: COVID-19 vaccine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The proposal is to add a link to COVID-19 vaccination in parentheses immediately after COVID-19 pandemic. Many, if not most, of the news related to the COVID-19 pandemic are about vaccines or the ongoing process of vaccination so it needs to be somehow separated from the main article to highlight its significance at this stage of development. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. I opposed the removal of the special Covid box a few months back, but the decision was made and that's where we are. Vaccination isn't the only aspect of the pandemic that's currently newsworthy, there's the wave in India and Brazil, the variants, changes to lockdown arrangements in different countries too. The pandemic article covers all those topics so it's IMHO sufficient to have that as the primary link into the topic.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    The primary article is not going to be replaced with this one; it's just a proposal to add a link to a secondary article in parentheses (I was also against removing the box with all links to relevant articles a few months ago.).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It already appeared in ongoing section as part of the COVID-19 pandemic article. I don't see any reasons to nominated it as ongoing. 110.137.163.125 (talk) 10:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No reason to link the same article from two different parts of the Front Page, let alone two different parts of just Ongoing.130.233.213.199 (talk) 11:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 5

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology


RD: Ashraf Sehrai

Article: Ashraf Sehrai (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Economic Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prominent figure in the ongoing Kashmir conflict, passed away supposedly due to COVID. Article seems to be in decent enough shape. Mount Patagonia (talk) 04:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ray Miller (baseball manager)

Article: Ray Miller (baseball manager) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Baltimore Sun; MLB.com; Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 5). —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 4

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Paulo Gustavo

Article: Paulo Gustavo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Folha de S. Paulo, G1
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian actor and comedian. Yet another victim of COVID-19. The article was created recently, but it's in decent shape. --SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 02:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Traffic Ramaswamy

Article: Traffic Ramaswamy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian social activist. Article is not ready for homepage / RD yet. But, not too far away. Will get to it shortly. Ktin (talk) 00:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Simon Achidi Achu

Article: Simon Achidi Achu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Journal du Cameroun
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 5th Prime Minister of Cameroon. Start-class biography, well-sourced. Jmanlucas (talk) 15:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Manas Bihari Verma

Article: Manas Bihari Verma (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian aeronautical scientist. Padma Sri awardee. Article is a start class biography. Can expand based on available obituaries. Ktin (talk) 03:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Alan McLoughlin

Article: Alan McLoughlin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Irish International footballer Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 3

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Frazier Glenn Miller Jr.

Article: Frazier Glenn Miller Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press ABC News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former political candidate and Neo-Nazi who was on death row and was responsible for the Overland Park Jewish Community Center shootingInexpiable (talk) 19:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine aside from the "Electoral History" section. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Mexico City Metro overpass collapse

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: Mexico City Metro overpass collapse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Mexico City Metro train derails on an overpass as it collapses, killing at least 20 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ An elevated section of the Mexico City Metro collapses leaving 23 people dead and more than 70 injured.
News source(s): The New York Times, The Washington Post, Reuters, AP, BBC, Guardian
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Article is undergoing expansion, but a train accident of this scale is bound to be covered. SounderBruce 05:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Extended discussion
Though there's no fixed minimum number of deaths for an article to be important enough for ITN, a higher death toll makes an event significantly more notable. Do you think this one should be posted? Jim Michael (talk) 10:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Hmm, on tilt again. Only you bring up "minimum deaths". I was simply offering a comparison that five times more casualties have occurred in this event than the one you helpfully linked. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Do you want this posted? Jim Michael (talk) 10:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Meh, it's your standard boiler plate disaster stub with barely a paragraph of relevant information and will never improve so of course it will be posted. I'm just trying to understand the bridge collapse posting criteria since it's not documented at WP:ITN. In the example I cited above there was a consensus that "if it had happened anywhere else we wouldn't post it" and here we are ready to post a bridge collapse from anywhere else. I'm kind of new here, just trying to understand the ins and outs is all. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As you know, there's no "bridge collapse criteria". Nominations are judged on their merits. Some have little or no merit, some have some or much merit. It depends. Cheers now! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This has far more casualties than the one you mentioned. That's the main reason that this one has been posted & that one wasn't. This article has been improving rapidly all day. Jim Michael (talk) 13:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that is not quite correct. The only reason why this one has been posted, while the other one wasn't, is that this nomination got enough support from people who happened to stop by the ITNC page while the nomination was up, while the other one did not. There are no other reasons why anything gets posted. There is no other rule, there are no precedents, there is nothing except "people who cared said something". --Jayron32 14:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus is why this was posted & previous one wasn't, but this one's higher death toll is clearly a major reason for at least some of us here to say that it should be posted. Jim Michael (talk) 14:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but people keep looking for ways to circumvent discussion and disqualify the opinions of others by (falsely) claiming that the reason why things are posted is because we have some sort of minimum limits, or because previous articles that were (or were not) posted in the past established a precedent, and that precedent or rule somehow invalidates the opinions of people who think differently. That is just not how we work. You may have your own private criteria as to why something will be posted, but that criteria is not based on any rule or precedent we have here at Wikipedia, and the fact that someone else uses a different criteria is NOT a reason to invalidate their opinion, despite the repeated efforts of some long-time contributors here to get their way. --Jayron32 14:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Disagreeing with someone, and giving reasons why you disagree - which could include citing informal standards and precedents - is not "invalidating their opinion". Discussion and debate are a healthy part of the consensus-building process. And if it happens that I disagree with someone *and* several of what you call the "long-time contributors", or indeed anyone else, happen to agree with me, then that might be enough to form a consensus contrary to the one I disagreed with. Or perhaps it isn't. That's up to the assessing admin to determine. I'm quite sure everyone who contributes to this page is used to sometimes getting the result they favour and sometimes not.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We should be disagreeing with people. We should not be doing it in a way that makes it seem like we're saying their comments are invalid because they violate some rule or that precedent has already been established. --Jayron32 15:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support articles in good shape, long enough and sufficiently sourced. I wonder if certain discussions would be taking place if the same event had taken place on the NYS or London Underground... no, I thought not. ——Serial 11:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In that event, the article & this discussion would have become much longer, much quicker. It would have been posted sooner. Jim Michael (talk) 13:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think you mean SNOW closed as "Consensus will not develop to post" in less than 3 hours? --LaserLegs (talk) 20:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Pierce Fulton

Article: Pierce Fulton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American DJ and record producer; surprised no one had nominated him. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 02:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose CV, near-stub. Of the 1,5kb of prose, only a single sentence (Death - a single sentence section) relates biographical information. On the plus side, the dates of birth and death are both listed, referencing is very thorough and the 'ographies are complete and referenced.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Helen Murray Free

Article: Helen Murray Free (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 3). —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support Nice article - good references, notable, and a good article in general. RIP Fakescientist8000 (talk) 01:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Donald Cameron (Nova Scotia premier)

Article: Donald Cameron (Nova Scotia premier) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News (Canadian Press)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 22:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support: Article seems to be very well sourced. As the former Premier of Nova Scotia, it would be hard to see any other reason besides poor sourcing to not see him on ITN. – Jmanlucas (talk) 22:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All people with a Wikipedia article are eligible to be on RD. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 22:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bobby Unser

Article: Bobby Unser (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 3 time Indy 500 winner rogerd (talk) 21:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Bill and melinda gates divorcing

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Articles: Bill Gates (talk · history · tag) and Melinda Gates (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Bill and Melinda Gates announce their divorce --Daikido (talk) 21:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Noor Alam Khalil Amini

Article: Noor Alam Khalil Amini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Millat Times Urdu
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Announced early morning IST. Known Indian scholar and author. Article updated and is more than a stub. I don't have access to further resources right now and there's not much biographical information available online/offline. The PhD thesis about his book is in Arabic and I don't know Arabic that much. Merits a mention on the ITN. ─ The Aafī (talk) 10:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AllegedlyHuman – He was both. A religious figure and an academic. He taught at the famous Indian seminary Darul Uloom Deoband and wrote extensively. I do not see where we have given weight to his personal faith? AFAICS, Article speaks about his early life, education and his writings, with specific mentions towards his focus on Arabic literature like his book being taught in dars-e-nizami or his articles etc. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 08:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note. I've updated the article, and tried to address other related concerns. This should be enough now. Thanks. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It was not initially clear to someone unfamiliar with the subject that he had studied Islam. Still, he was labeled as a "religious figure" in the infobox and described in the first sentence as "an Indian Sunni Muslim scholar", which I do not believe would be appropriate if he studied something other than religion. The article appears to be clearer now, thank you. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 19:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Your comment was really helpful. Thank you. This should be now ready for the ITN. ─ The Aafī (talk) 23:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) ITNR: 2021 World Snooker Championship

Proposed image
Article: 2021 World Snooker Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Mark Selby wins the World Snooker Championship defeating Shaun Murphy in the final. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2021/may/03/snooker-world-championship-final-crucible-mark-selby-shaun-murphy-live
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Listed at ITN/R. Almost up to date, just need to update the final slightly in the prose. See previous ITNs such as for 2019 World Snooker Championship etc.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:45, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on it, but I got a bit behind earlier this week, so I'm not as up to date as usual. I've added a placeholder to confirm he won, and the score and such, just there is some missing detail I'll add ASAP. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 22:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 2

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Sports


RD: Ernest E. West

Article: Ernest E. West (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Courier-Journal; The Daily Independent
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 2). —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jacques d'Amboise (dancer)

Article: Jacques d'Amboise (dancer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former New York City Ballet principal dancer and the founder of the National Dance Institute. I will expand the article further, but with his long career it will take a while, and I think the article is now decent enough for RD. Corachow (talk) 09:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: S. G. Neginhal

Article: S. G. Neginhal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deccan Herald
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian wildlife and nature conservationist. Article has shaped into a decent C-class biography. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 02:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: John Dee Holeman

Article: John Dee Holeman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The News & Observer
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 2). —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:10, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Long quote from the National Endowment for the Arts copypasted in the article. It does appear to be public domain, so copyright would not be an issue, but currently it's in there with pretty much no context and doesn't seem to add much; would suggest breaking up. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2021 Colombian protests

Proposed image
Article: 2021 Colombian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nationwide protests in Colombia against proposed tax increases result in at least seventeen dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Nationwide protests in Colombia against proposed tax increases to fund a basic income program result in at least seventeen dead.
Alternative blurb II: Colombia withdraws a proposed tax reform after opposition riots leave seventeen dead.
Alternative blurb III: Nationwide protests in Colombia against proposals for tax increases and privatized health care result in at least seventeen dead.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Colombian president Iván Duque Márquez withdraws a proposed tax reform after nationwide protests leave at least seventeen dead.
News source(s): CNN, The Guardian, Deutsche Welle
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Large protests involving tens of thousands of Colombians protesting in the nation's largest metro areas against increased taxes. Notable as it is covered by numerous international agencies. Alternate blurb is to possibly include more NPOV and background to the situation. --WMrapids (talk) 15:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When protests kill 6 people, they're called riots. Papering over riots is a WP:RGW but I don't care that much --LaserLegs (talk) 17:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The protests didn't kill the people, the crackdown did. Unless you want to say "Police riot and kill 6 protestors". --Jayron32 17:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, the police cracked down on rioters, and a few were killed resisting law enforcement. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It depends on one's perception of "law and order".—Bagumba (talk) 03:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Don't care about the blurb. Article is in good shape. Y'all figure out the wording amongst yourselves. --Jayron32 17:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have understood that this protests began due to a tax plan proposed by the government, what seems is happening is that the sense of the protests, now that the government withdraw the proposal for the tax plan, has changed to show general disconformation with the Iván Duque's government. Sr. Knowthing ¿señor? 23:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My bad for the delayed comment; I was out eating with my family. Anyways, to answer your question, Alt III looks good to me. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 01:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 1

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Politics and elections

Science and technology

Sports


RD: Martin Bookspan

Article: Martin Bookspan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post; The Berkshire Eagle
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 1). —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:53, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) US withdrawal from Afghanistan

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: 2021 withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The U.S. Armed Forces start their withdrawal from Afghanistan. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC
Credits:
Nominator's comments: As far as I remember, we didn't post the decision to withdraw, so we can post the actual start of the withdrawal. Brandmeistertalk 10:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here it is. February 2020. The United States surrenders to the Taliban in Afghanistan --LaserLegs (talk) 11:03, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. The posted wording was The United States and the Taliban sign a peace agreement which establishes a framework for ending the War in Afghanistan. Withdrawing (no pun intended), but if someone wants to proceed, feel free to re-open. Brandmeistertalk 11:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming it goes as planned, I think the conclusion of the whole thing on 9/11 is worth posting even more so than the terms last Feb. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:53, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@LaserLegs: I agree with posting when the whole initiative concludes. Who knows what may happen between then and now...--WMrapids (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Let's wait until there is a conclusive finish to troop deployments in Afghanistan.--WMrapids (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Joseph Z. Nederlander

Article: Joseph Z. Nederlander (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 04:25, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2021 Kentucky Derby

Article: 2021 Kentucky Derby (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In horse racing, Medina Spirit wins the Kentucky Derby. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In horse racing, Medina Spirit wins the the Kentucky Derby, the record seventh victory for trainer Bob Baffert.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In horse racing, Medina Spirit wins the the Kentucky Derby, a record seventh victory in the race for trainer Bob Baffert.
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Olympia Dukakis

Article: Olympia Dukakis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article has usual sourcing problems with Hollywood actors - needs major sourcing to be ready for RD. Masem (t) 19:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mohammad Shahabuddin

Article: Mohammad Shahabuddin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Convicted for murder and a ex Indian MP Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Pretty close; 1 CN tag remaining. One other consideration is the sentence Shahabuddin is synonymous with criminal-politician in India; his is the standard to which other criminal-politicians are compared, and the ref is an example of the second half of the sentence, but doesn't necessarily support the assertion that "Shahabuddin is synonymous with criminal-politician in India." As a potentially defamatory claim in a BLP, this definitely needs a source (or two) supporting that statement. SpencerT•C 00:51, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April 30

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


(Posted) RD: Anthony Payne

Article: Anthony Payne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: London composer, died shortly after his wife, soprano Jane Manning who appeared in RD. - Good obit in the Telegraph, was just not used enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Eli Broad

Article: Eli Broad (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Looks about ready to go. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 01:22, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Soli Sorabjee

Article: Soli Sorabjee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Attorney-General of India Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: K. V. Anand

Article: K. V. Anand (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Breaking now. Indian Tamil language film director and cinematographer. Additional details will be available soon. Article requires work including fixing references and citations before being ready for homepage / RD. RIP. Edits and citations expanded. Seems to meet hygiene expectations for homepage / RD for a film-linked personality. RIP. Ktin (talk) 04:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Israel stampede

Article: 2021 Israel stampede (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 44 people were killed and hundreds more injured, in a stampede at the annual Meron pilgrimage during Lag BaOmer (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ the joint-deadliest non-military accident in the history of the country
Alternative blurb II: ​ At least 44 are killed during a stampede in Meron, Israel.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Israel, at least 44 people are killed in a stampede at Mount Meron during a celebration for the annual Jewish holiday Lag BaOmer.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ In Israel, at least 44 people are killed in a stampede at a religious festival in Mount Meron.
News source(s): The New York Times,The Wall Street Journal, AP, BBC, Guardian, Reuters
Credits:
Hebrew Main Page currently using this one. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:32, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone suggest an italicized (pictured) parenthetical for the blurb and a caption for the pitcture itself?—Bagumba (talk) 08:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That picture is from 2016. It would probably be misleading to post it in association with this year's situation. --Jayron32 11:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. It says it's people "dancing"? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That picture very well might be dancing, singing and dancing are often done at Lag BaOmer celebrations. --Jayron32 11:54, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there should be a picture, particularly one from a different year and particularly not one showing people in the usual celebratory. This is a disaster story, and we don't usually post pics unless there's a very obvious encyclopaedic and not-too-gory shot of the incident itself.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:19, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I mean the picture shows people so crammed together than any dancing is not easy to infer. My point was more that an image of people dancing would be singularly inappropriate for an event with mass fatalities. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:26, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure where I lead you to believe that I disagreed with you on any of that. --Jayron32 14:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You did not. I thought you might have read my comment as disbelieving that dancing occured. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We now have a photo of the aftermath. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 04:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
also, both this photo and this photo illustrate how crowded the event was, although neither appears to have been taken after the incident. dying (talk) 14:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April 29

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Sports


(Posted) RD: Madeline Davis

Article: Madeline Davis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Buffalo News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Activist who taught first college course on lesbians in US, was first open lesbian delegate at DNC, coauthored notable book on lesbian hisory. Entry had a great deal of unsourced detail and for a couple days I’ve been trying to reference—I think what I’ve salvaged gives a strong overview of her life. Innisfree987 (talk) 02:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[fixed nomination heading. dying (talk) 03:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)][reply]

RD: Billie Hayes

Article: Billie Hayes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo!
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lidsville scared the living c*@p out of me as a kid. CoatCheck (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Byron Seaman

Article: Byron Seaman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News (Canadian Press); Calgary Sun; NHL.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (April 29). —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Mantfombi Dlamini

Article: Mantfombi Dlamini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The South African, Reuters
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Queen regent of the Zulu Nation dies one month after the king. Joofjoof (talk) 02:36, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Anne Buydens

Article: Anne Buydens (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Philantropist and centenarian. Widow of Kirk DouglasJoofjoof (talk) 00:48, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Robert Slavin

Article: Robert Slavin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (April 29). —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:13, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Chelato Uclés

Article: Chelato Uclés (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Football coach, major public personality in Honduras Soman (talk) 00:59, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Lots of referencing to be done, lots of short stubby paragraphs to be fixed, and not sure about the illustration in the infobox either (looks odd).-- P-K3 (talk) 18:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ronnie Govender

Article: Ronnie Govender (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): IOL(South Africa)
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Tamil South African activist and playwright. Article is currently a stub and is not ready for homepage / RD. Sufficient information available online to expand the article. If someone wants to give this a shot before me, please go ahead. Else, I will get to it later tonight. Edits and expansion done. Article has shaped up to a nice C-class biography. Good to go to homepage / RD. Nice work Joofjoof. Ktin (talk) 01:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Ktin (talk) 21:06, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Re-posted) Tianhe launch

Proposed image
Article: Tianhe (space station module) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China launches the Tianhe space station module (pictured) on a Long March 5B rocket, the first module in the upcoming Tiangong space station. (Post)
News source(s): AP, BBC, SpaceNews
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Although not a crewed launch, the first module of an upcoming space station is probably newsworthy. osunpokeh (talk) 15:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have cleared all the CNs. STSC (talk) 12:12, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Again, we're not just removing the tags, but providing references to the material. A single citation[6] has been provided for the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, but it only covers the material in the second. The third graph topics (history of docking ports, service life of TCM, benefits of modular stations) are not in that ref. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll look into it. STSC (talk) 15:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done, I believe the article meets the "minimum standard of quality" for ITN. STSC (talk) 15:43, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re-posted Adequately referenced now. SpencerT•C 16:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • question: i admittedly don't know what the protocol is for nominations reposted after they have been pulled, but should STSC receive some kind of credit, considering that STSC was largely responsible for getting the article up to posting quality after it was pulled? dying (talk)
Anyone is free to give credit to anyone they think deserves it. Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
oh, i had not realized that. thanks for letting me know. dying (talk) 05:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents: