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Hi Arjun, I was just going through the list of featured articles (Economy of India is one of them) and I'm concerned that if the article gets re-reviewed, I'm pretty sure it's going to get axed from the list. For one, users like this go around various articles and copy-paste the most POV-loaded and poorly written paragraphs into the article. Then there's the matter of having a section like Issues. I'm currently working on integrated the "Issues" into their respective sections because having a section like Issues seems completely unencylopedic and really an opportunity for people to cherrypick certian facts and then just clump them into one section without taking into account the greater context of the situation. Vedant (talk) 19:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "Issues" section seem to be bit bulky; and moreover it's got some generic topics to deal with (Corruption, Govt, Labor laws ...), that don't well fit into other sections. what say? Arjuncodename024 12:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the issues need to be mentioned but I'm generally opposed to block quotes (as they seem indicative of WP:POVPUSH). I think atleast the following can be done:
  • Issues/Agriculture -> Sectors/Agriculture
  • Economic Disparities -> Income/Consumption
  • Labour Laws -> Employment
  • Issues/Corruption and Issues/Government -> New section titled Government Involvement
  • Issues/Infrastructure -> A new section titled Infrastructure
This would atleast cut down the issues section which is a bad idea to keep in a featured article. I'm not saying we don't talk about the issue (they're important after all). What I am suggesting though is that we deal with them in their respective sections and present a complete depiction (and not just a one-sided one). Let me know what you think. Thanks, Vedant (talk) 16:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK problem

Hello! Your submission of Prayopavesa at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! LittleMountain5 20:52, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for talking up here. Over to template talk. Arjuncodename024 12:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Bluestar

Hi fellow editor, wanted to check with you whether the source I added here was sufficient to stop the edit war between you and Profitoftruth? Thanks and Best Wishes --Sikh-History 17:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No dear friend. Sikhs describe Op Bluestar as a massacre means that it's a massacre from a Sikh Point of view. It in no way implies that the assertion is from a Neutral POV. As merriam websters tells me; massacre is "the act or an instance of killing a number of usually helpless or unresisting human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty". This does not apply to this event. The military moved in to clear the Sikh separatists who resisted, ensuing an armed conflict. Categorizing this a massacre is not all correct. Thanks for talking this up here. Arjuncodename024 17:21, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Arjun, given the fact that certain editors with obvious and singular motives are involved in this debate, I think it is best for me to recuse myself from this debate. As much as I don't think it was a massacre in a place of worship, it's probably best I stay on the sidelines lest this whole debate go off course and turn into someone promoting Indian nationalism or whatever claim is conjured up. Good luck though. Thanks, Vedant (talk) 00:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You are right buddy. May be the discussion will be overlooked as my "canvassing" (!). Regards Arjuncodename024 12:27, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*sigh*... such are the perils of open-editing. I'm not inherently opposed to the concept but it's pretty clear that some users - while editing under the banner of NPOV - have very singular motives and intentions. Thus while not adding any objectionable content that violates WP policy, they aim to portray certain entities in a very particular light.Vedant (talk) 19:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mango

Both the links that has been provided (Oxford and American Encyclopedia) points to the fact that Mango indeed came from Tamil: Mankay and not from Malayalam: Mankaa. Can you name one variety of Mango that is native of Kerala?

You have been disruptive here in distorting facts. I have not brought in my Tamil Nationalist sentiments here. You would do good if you carefully select your words before vomiting here when you write your comments. And you should not hurt others while you give your comments. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by அருநாடன்2 (talkcontribs) 14:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Prayopavesa

RlevseTalk 18:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NITC IMAGE

Hey new to the wikipedia editing interface. I have a better NITC logo without the white background/transparent. Do let me know how to edit it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishek1912 (talkcontribs) 18:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I had an NITC image in my userpage as well; but the file was deleted by an administrator due to copyright issues. Pls read Wikipedia:Images and Wikipedia:Copyrights and make sure the image adheres to Wikipedia policies. I wish i could help you more, but i happen to be bit busy now; and i am not really cool with these copyvio issues. Regards. Arjuncodename024 13:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation

Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) has agreed to mediate our discussion here--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation

Your opinion would be much appreciated, if you wished to chime in here. Regards, Salvio Let's talk 'bout it! 15:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andrott

As a Malayalam speaker, could you add the Malayalam script for Andrott? Also, could you add the interwiki (in Malayalam Wikipedia) for it, as despite being the largest settlement in Lakshadweep, no-one has added to the article.

Many Thanks. --92.8.198.159 (talk) 16:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have given a try at the Malayalam transliteration. Arjuncodename024 15:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm closing the case as stale, after a week of inactivity; should this dispute flare up again, feel free to reopen without prejudice. Salvio Let's talk 'bout it! 14:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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A discussion pertaining your recent edits is under-way on Talk:Criticism_of_Hinduism#Philosophy_section. --Redtigerxyz Talk 16:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Arjun,

Hi Arjun, Is that - Saint Thomas Christians or Syrian Malabar Nasrani or Nasranis are not the part of Indian Religions? Why? Kerala is not the part of India or not?

Syrian Christianity found at AD52 (1st Century)- BUT THAT IS NOT AN INDIAN RELIGION Sikhism found at AD 1400 (14th Century)

why everyone hate Keralites? Christians? is anyone from this group fight against our nation?

St Thomas Christians are world's ancient Christian Community than any other English Nations, their rituals are different from the global Christians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndianDreams (talkcontribs) 09:07, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indian religions are religions indigenous to India; Christianity is not indigenous to India, so are any of its forms. Saying "Syrian" Christianity is Indian is like saying Chinese food is European. Arjuncodename024 14:20, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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APPEAL TO YOU Reg: [BRAHMAN PUJAN] , [UNIVERSAL PRAYERS] . written by [Naresh Sonee] On wikipedia , These above two pages are far older than the present article [Brahman] References of above titles are also available on New York site - http://www.printsasia.com/BookDetails.aspx?Id=445813482 Meanwhile, Can your good selves in Wiki Project Indian Community re-create a precise pages on [Naresh Sonee] & his book [Brahmand Pujan] – [Brahmaand Pujan] . However, Sonee is the writer of this book [Brahmand Pujan] written in 1999 . registered with Government of India- HRRD. Details of the registration is provided here on http://brhmaandpujanbook.tripod.com/ . More than sufficient, news and reviews are there on http://brhmaandpujan-news-reviews.tripod.com/ Since 5-6 yrs, for one or the other reason pages of [Naresh Sonee] & [Brahmand Pujan] are faced by communal bias from outside India so these articles over and again get deleted here in Wikipedia for minor reasons. However, many hits of - Naresh Sonee reflects on google search engine also. So, I request Wiki Indian community to kindly come forward and generously help these two pages to grow, as I am fed up to fight my case alone here [left] and moved out long back. Meanwhile, such an important info/issue on ‘Indian literature’ which adds & spell ‘new meaning /dimension’ to Brahman -should it stay lost else ignored? Your community panel has to judge at last. Myself, will not be on Wikipedia, for the same i apologise, but- pls. help these two pages to get reinstalled, reap, sow and grow, if you too feel so, I appeal to do this munificent favour. Regards- Dralansun (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC).[reply]

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Hi, Arjun024! Martyrdevasahayam.org is neither unreliable nor a shadow wesite of a radical religious group, but the official website of the martyr`s devotees who pray for his sainthood. Removing the link ,it seems, is not unbiased. An article about a Christian martyr shall never be blind or silent about the truth-telling all the atrocities committed against him knowingly/unknowingly on those days. Neutrality can never be maintained by allowing vested interests to throw mud on the central character as was evident in earlier edits.Kindly refer only printed and published books, preferably the old vintage ones, but not magazines which are `coloured` or mouthpieces of some radical elements. Regaeds,--Kumaripriya (talk) 14:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

March 2011

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You have again removed referenced content. Another revert will be dealed with a vandalism report. --Wangond (talk) 16:41, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are a sanctimonious vandal and you know it. Go and report to whoever it is. All my edits are accompanied by well written summaries. Your reference of "Southscope, March 2011" has no credibility and even if it did, many mainstream references prove otherwise. Arjuncodename024 16:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP uses popular name given in mainstream reliable media, not by stuff reported by magazines like "Southscope". Arjuncodename024 16:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Southscope not credible? It is produced by Allu Aravind, top producer of Telugu cinema. You shouldn't talk about people without any knowlegde. I guess, you have no southscope at home to read it, and that's why you are against this particular source and call me a vandal. --Wangond (talk) 16:53, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's without a doubt unreliable and your unlinked reference makes it unverifiable as well. Arjuncodename024 16:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I see, this is not a content dispute, but a reliability problem according to you. Then you may start a reliable source discussion at the appropriate board. Meanwhile, the source stays according to Biography criteria, since this needs to be handled as Vandalism by my understanding. --Wangond (talk) 17:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National security act 1980(India) article

From history I knew that you have created this article.But I think you can expand this article as it is almost a stub.Please see my userpage in case you want to know a bit about me. Keep up your good work and happy years of editing! Suri 100 (talk) 10:49, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New article

Wotcher,

How about starting a new article called "Langauges of Kerala" ?

(Rameez pp (talk) 08:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]

If you are talking about "Dialects of Malayalam" you could go by that. But i am not sure you will find a lot of supporting material. Arjuncodename024 15:05, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


It is not about "Dialects of Malayalam", it's about "Langauges of Kerala", like Tribal langauges..

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Didn't look at all promising, shouldn't we use the actual publisher as at [4] - and a link to [5]. Dougweller (talk) 09:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. i have changed the publisher's name. i just think that the url is much better (and therefore easily verifiable) if pointed to the exact page. Do change if you think otherwise. Arjuncodename024 11:39, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why the cited text about Buddha's birth in Odisha was taken out?

I have cited references supporting that buddha was born in Odisha, Wikipedia is not about a single view saying this is it. There are many evidences supporting this fact and many researchers have stated that Buddha was born in Odisha, isn't it a kind of partiality by simply removing this Please see the following references

Some of the inscriptions found from Orissa make historians believe that Buddha was born in Odisha based on many evidences including the Ashokan inscriptions.[1],[2], [3],[4]

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Because, it's WP:FRINGE, just a claim Arjuncodename024 11:23, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you explain what you mean?--Malaikaran (talk) 14:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC) I would like to explain, why there is less content.. First of all most of the content was fiction. The strangely presented story was also sourced badly with dubious content like "arya ezhuthu" as a name for the Grantha script. Malayalam was influenced by Sanskrit, has many words in it, but to say it has over 80% Sanskrit words in it is pure nonsense and unbackable by any reliable sources. If it had over 80% Sanskrit I could never understand my mothertongue. It is a total lie or a non-knowledgable editor, who was pushing for Sanskrit. Additionally try to find a gbook with the word Grantha Bhasha in it. Zero results. Maybe this helps to understand some of the action I made to improve the intro.--Malaikaran (talk) 15:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the discussion to the article talk page. Hope you do not mind. see Talk:Malayalam#Selective removal.. etc Malayalam . Arjuncodename024 05:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop making racist comments

like here: [6] --Malaikaran (talk) 11:25, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the record : Malaikaran (talk · contribs) indefinitely blocked. Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Kalarimaster. Arjuncodename024 06:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I noticed you editing Manipravalam and have added more sources demonstrating why it is described as a mixture of Sanskrit and Tamil. Hope that helps. Lifebonzza (talk) 09:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm afraid you can't have a page move A--> B or C. It is aginst the rules. Please reply on the Gandhi talk page. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:50, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, i am strong opposer of Red tape. I think it's implied in such a move request that the users who voice their opinion need to specify which one they support/oppose. And I have already made my case at the move discussion. Cheers Arjuncodename024 17:36, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What is the problem with Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi please? This move would open a can of worms. Wouldnt argumets like Alexander the great or Akbar the great be wp:OSE? Anyway if you explain kindly explain I would vote pro-Mahatma. I am putting the support vote, in anticipation of a convincing argument.Yogesh Khandke (talk) 06:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My proposal is towards the very basic intention of an "article title" - which is the easiest and comprehensive identification of the subject. I feel that "Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi" doesn't serve this purpose any well better than what i proposed. I do not have more arguments than what i have already expressed. cheers! Arjuncodename024 06:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You have introduced ambiguity, as the proposer, you should have specified one title and not a palette of choices, that could go against the proposal, please refine if it isn't too late, I had ab initio put vote on Mahatma Gandhi the most common way the subject of the article is referred.Yogesh Khandke (talk) 11:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yogesh, feel free to strike down my proposal and refine it yourself. Arjuncodename024 13:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, I am disappointed in your vote, Yogesh Khandke. You are not being true to your own principles. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Remember the pariah? Well his principles were utilitarian, which is my inspiration here.Yogesh Khandke (talk) 12:46, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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You'd done some clean up on moves before, can you take a look at them again (all Kerala places). The relevant discussion is at User talk:SpacemanSpiff#More moves. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 14:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My moves

hi, Most of the languages spoken in Indian subcontinent are currently transliterated using IAST system, and this include Dravidian languages (Malayalam does have a system, which is the IAST). So, we can romanize Malayalam names using Sanskrit transliteration, and it has been so. (Rameez pp (talk) 12:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC))[reply]

If IAST were the norm, Chavara would have been spelt as "Cavara". Your argument doesn't hold water. Arjuncodename024 13:28, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But, they are according to the authentic ISO 15919

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Why are you reverting the Etymology of Mango, The reference you give for Malayalam root is broken and suggest the with "probably". But the reference for Tamil root is clear. Don't revert it back, we are keeping both the root in this version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Servophbabu (talkcontribs) 05:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Read (1988) Organiser, Volume 40([7]), page 252 - Quote: the name Mango came to English from Malayalam through Portuguese and not from Tamil. In Malayalam, Mango fruit is called Manga with a nasal ending sound. Tamils invariably call ripe Mango fruit as Mam Pazham.
The origin of the word has also been widely miscredited to Tamil. take note.Arjuncodename024 07:30, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you, but the word Manga in Malayalam is came from Tamil word Manga. All the Nouns in Malayalam is from Tamil only. That's why it is called derived language of Tamil and Sanskrit[1]. Also check Manipravalam. Hence, it is not Miss credited, the root of the word Mango is Magai(Tamil)->Manga(Malayalam)->Magey(European langauage) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Servophbabu (talkcontribs) 13:37, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


I have cleared the citation for Malayalam word by keeping your reference. And There are reference to Tamil origin too so don't revert it now. And you should see the Dravidian language family tree, The Malayalam is not from Proto-Dravidian as you think. The fact is, it is from Tamil-Kodugu branch or Proto-Tamil. And one more thing Dravida means Tamil's. The word dravida itself refer's Tamils. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Servophbabu (talkcontribs) 04:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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