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Rodolfo Bonifacio bio draft
hi Qcne, do you think now could be correct? tks 82.58.81.7 (talk) 08:29, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- What's the source for the date of birth? date of death? You also have a couple of external links in the body of the text, please change them to citations. Qcne (talk) 13:32, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- thankyou very much for your indications on article Draft:Rodolfo Bonifacio which were all carefully applied. Do you think now works? Nicola Piovella (talk) 06:16, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Nicola Piovella. No sorry:
- - Wikipedia cannot be used as a source (see WP:CIRCULAR).
- - Nearly every single source is written be Bonifacio himself, so is not WP:INDEPENDENT.
- Please read the criteria at WP:NACADEMIC. Qcne (talk) 10:22, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your prompt reply. Please let me clarify in order to understand better:
- as for Wikipedia used as a source, this is simply because I couldn't find other way to refer to a wiki page which is in another language (one is in Italian and another in German). Is any other way I can do so?
- as for the sources written by Bonifacio himself, i must confess i am a bit confused as we are not talking about simple writings, but extremely relevant and recognized scientific work published by well regarded, established scientific journals/institutions following, as for the standard protocol, thorough and strict pier review processes (this is an abstract from google scholar https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Rodolfo+Bonifacio&btnG=: ). Is there another way to cite? perhaps to be considered simply as bibliography? To notice that co-authors and scientific partners have also pages where the sources are mainly their published work. See Luigi Lugiato and Giulio Casati among others. Grateful for your valuable feedback. Regards
- Nicola Piovella (talk) 14:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Nicola Piovella,
- For inter-linking different Wikis, see WP:WIKILINK.
- To satisfy the WP:NPEOPLE criteria we need significant coverage in secondary sources which are independent of the subject. Unless you can prove this person meets one of the special WP:NACADEMIC criteria? Qcne (talk) 17:41, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Many thanks @Qcne for your valuable support. As for the sources, referring to the WP:NACADEMIC i believe the relevance is clear:
- Specific Criteria N 1: the person's research has made significant impact: as it has been widely recognized by the international scientific community in occasion of his departure, he is recognized as "a pioneer of optical and laser physics who made extraordinary contributions to the subject and helped shape it into its present form" (see Tributes published by Italian Physycal Society ,, the Italian Intitute of Nuclear Physics and The American Institute of Physics , see also memorial lecture held at CERN Geneva )
- Specific Criteria N 2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level: as mentioned in the draft he has been awarded with the highest awards in Quantum Optics: The Michelson Medal from the Franklin Institute for his studies of optical bistability and The Einstein Medal from the Society for Quantum Optics and Quantum Electronics for his pioneering work on the FEL. Moreover he was recognized with the title of "emeritus professor" both at the University of Milan and the Italian Institute of Nuclear Physics.
- Specific Criteria N 3. The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association He was associate emeritus at the Italian National Institute of Nuclear Physics, the national highest scholar society in physics
- Specific Criteria N 4.The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education: See SC 1, moreover, to notice that there is a current attribution dispute concerning among most significant equations of quantum optics, currently recognized as Maxwell-Boch but previously published as part of a totally original work by R.Bonifacio . see article published by Nature in 2016:
- Specific Criteria N 5: The person has held a named chair appointment or "Distinguished Professor" appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon)
- He held the Chair of Theoretical Physics at the UNIMI for more than 20 years and was appointed by the same institution as "Emeritus Professor" in 2015
- I hope that these reference can be sufficiently coherent with the criteria, in any case i have proceeded already in changing the the paragraph name into "bibliography" in order to avoid further controversy. Thankyou again for your valuable assistance, any further feedback more than appreciated. Best Nicola Piovella (talk) 15:30, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Nicola Piovella, in that case I do think he satisfies the special criteria and so I have re-submitted and accepted for you. Please add some WP:CATEGORIES. Qcne (talk) 14:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- many thanks for your assistance and guidance. Much appreciated. Best Rgds Nicola Piovella (talk) 15:14, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Nicola Piovella, in that case I do think he satisfies the special criteria and so I have re-submitted and accepted for you. Please add some WP:CATEGORIES. Qcne (talk) 14:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your prompt reply. Please let me clarify in order to understand better:
Draft: Euresearch
Hi, In October, you very kindly offered to review a rewrite of the Euresearch draft page. (18:52, 27 October 2023 review of submission by Wordsmith.ch). I followed the advice you gave me then and rewrote the article based on the information in secondary sources, of which there are now 9. I would be very pleased if you could take a look and tell me if you think the draft is ready to be resubmitted for publication. Thank you in advance for your help. Wordsmith.ch (talk) 13:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think that passes now @Wordsmith.ch. Please add some WP:CATEGORIES. Qcne (talk) 14:23, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! I've started adding categories and will go back and add more. Wordsmith.ch (talk) 18:06, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Request on 11:51:33, 6 December 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Afshaaan.ahmed
Hi Qcne, Thanks for reviewing the draft for Ahmad Rafay Alam. I see your point about needing more coverage from independent sources. Could you maybe point me to a few examples of similar Pakistani profiles on Wikipedia? It'd help me understand what kind of sources I should be looking for. Alam's got quite a bit of coverage in big newspapers and journals, both in Pakistan and internationally, so I thought that might be enough, but I get that Wikipedia has its own way of doing things. Any tips or examples you can share would be super helpful. I want to make sure I get this right. Thanks a bunch for your help!
Afshaaan.ahmed (talk) 11:51, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Afshaaan.ahmed. Nearly all your sources so far are articles by Ahmad not about him. Have a look at WP:NBASIC which explains we need significant coverage of the person in reliable, independent, secondary sources.
- As for articles to base this on, unfortunately Wikipedia has many thousands of articles that are poor quality and don't pass our notability test. I'd recommend looking at WP:GOOD articles which are ones rated by the community Qcne (talk) 14:22, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of BrahmanshiS/sandbox
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I wrote a new company article
Can you help determine if it meets notoriety requirements and help me get a logo onto it as I can't figure out the process.
Also question on Wikipedia policy, I work at this company but I was not paid to make this page and I did it on my own time simply because I felt like it. Is this ok or should a third party person have created this? ACasualEditor97 (talk) 21:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @ACasualEditor97. You need to declare a conflict of interest at WP:COI, but if you really weren't asked to create the article and really did do it in your own time you should be okay.
- As for notability... I think the article is borderline. It looks like most of the sources are regurgitated press releases? Try and find some truly independent reporting of the company.
- Logo's must be deemed free use or fair use. Check the tutorial at Wikipedia:Uploading images. Qcne (talk) 16:28, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Samheng Boros
Hello, @Qcne Would you help review this draft? Thanks. Bxrxbx (talk) 15:44, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Bxrxbx that passes WP:NPOLITICIAN so I've accepted. Please add some WP:CATEGORIES. Qcne (talk) 16:24, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your accepting. I will add more information after. Bxrxbx (talk) 16:49, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Qcne, it's QuantumRealm! Noticed we both tagged that vandal's sandbox for deletion and reported to admins at the same time - great minds think alike! Funny how our 'Q' usernames align in this battle against vandalism. Keep up the good work at AfC! QuantumRealm (meow🦁 • pawtrack🐾) 18:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC) |
- Love your Talk page and Contribs links! Qcne (talk) 18:20, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Dear Qcnev, Can you accepted Draft:Satish Chandra Sharma (politician) at this time. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:25, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Accepted as they meet WP:NPOLITICIAN. Qcne (talk) 17:26, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks you for immediate accepted and reply. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:33, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Qcne,please accepted Draft:Ramakesh Nishad. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:25, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Can I just check which source has her date of birth? Qcne (talk) 15:20, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Qcne,please accepted Draft:Ramakesh Nishad. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:25, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Qcne, I have no source releated to his birthdate, but plesae search on google his name you his birthdate is already mentioned in google knowledge base panel. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:50, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry, we can't use the Google knowledge base pane as a source. I'd recommend removing the date of birth unless you find a source, and then it can be approved. Qcne (talk) 15:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Qcne, I have no source releated to his birthdate, but plesae search on google his name you his birthdate is already mentioned in google knowledge base panel. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:50, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Qcne, I've removed birthdate from his article as per your talk, so, you can accepted this submission. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Qcne, Hello, please look at Draft:Vijay Laxmi Gautam? 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Qcne, I've removed birthdate from his article as per your talk, so, you can accepted this submission. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Erick Mariga
Hello I have added the sources about the individual that are available online 105.242.231.131 (talk) 17:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Answered at the Help Desk. Qcne (talk) 17:52, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Lists of X states political scandals
These lists were based on List of federal political scandals in the United States which has a long history of complaints and harassment by a multitude of sox. One complaint was that the terms were not defined adequately, thats why I emoahsized it. Another was that it was both too long and the materieI too recen, which is why I presented them singly by state, and limited the number of citations. If this opening is awkward you could use that one instead.Johnsagent (talk) 21:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Johnsagent would recommend you post that to the AfC Talk Page where I've pinged you. Qcne (talk) 21:45, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Jerrettspass Resubmission
@Qcne To answer your question, I resubmitted it as I had included references, originally it was moved to draft space because it lacked references. Dr Ulster (talk) 17:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies, someone else had resubmitted it after my declination and so I simply got mixed up. Dr Ulster (talk) 22:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Page Review
Dear Qcne Requesting you to please Review this Page Draft:VJ Sunny.
Thankyou! Mr.shaikmeer (talk) 18:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Companion Volume to the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages
I'm not sure what you mean by 'mangled text'. The article was inserted using copy/paste from an original Word file on my PC. The text was written by myself. So what exactly do you expect me to do? Or is there anything else that needs clarification? Thanks for your help. Rcjqffm (talk) 14:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Rcjqffm. A few issues:
- - missing bullets on sociolinguistic and pragmatic
- - random "<ref>" tags throughout, which suggests you may be missing references?
- - the "Literature" section has the text "[edit]" after, which suggests you've copy-pasted it from another Wiki...?
- We would much prefer you to have in-line citations with footnotes throughout. You have zero at the moment. Please carefully read WP:VERIFY and then follow the referencing tutorial at WP:INTREFVE.
- Let me know if you have any more questions though, Qcne (talk) 14:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Gideon Joseph (December 13)
- If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Gideon Joseph and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
- If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
- If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.
Hello, Qcne!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Qcne (talk) 17:54, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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Really? Not even sure why to say, Qcne. They clearly do not understand WP:BLP much less the other issues. S0091 (talk) 19:56, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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The article Lanka Bandaranayake is further developed, and I hope the issue you highlighted is now resolved. Please check again and let me know if there are any further areas to be developed. Thank you. Gabriel2954 (talk) 05:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
No name editor Qcne: What sort of references would be enough for this great Mathematician to get a Wikipedia page. What are your qualifications to be turning down my draft? Believe me when I say he advanced a place in number theory that has remained quadratic since Euler (300 years). It is a very difficult area and he has advances it in several ways. I'm not going to give up. You are going to have to site better reasons than no references as I sited three respected sources and a pdf link. I'm assuming you are an human being and not a bot like "Fastily" and that you actually read the article I submitted. I think you just automatically rejected it without reading. Roger Lee Bagula Rlbagulatftn (talk) 18:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Franois Dress article
Qcne: Just to be clear: I don't know Fraçois Dress. We speak different languages and communicate by Google translate. He is truly a great Mathematician. You guys (Wikipedia editors) gave me a bad run around when I started the Mandelbrot page and turned me from your "process" that involves giving other editors a hard time and not trying to help them. Roger Lee Bagula Rlbagulatftn (talk) 18:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Rlbagulatftn I do not appreciate your tone, I am a volunteer (human) editor with over 3,000 reviews.
- I did not reject your Draft:François_Dress draft, merely declined it, which means it can be improved and re-submitted.
- It is a hard requirement that articles of living people have in-line citations. This was one of the reasons I declined your draft. Follow the tutorial at WP:INTREFVE and add in-line citations after every statement. It would also be useful to format your reference list properly to our standards.
- The second reason I declined your draft was because we have a criteria for academics at WP:NACADEMIC. Because of the lack of in-line citations I was unable to determine if Francois met this criteria. If, as you say, that he meets criteria 1 of that guideline then please give evidence of that in the body of the article.
- Let me know if you have any questions, but please do so in a constructive manner. Qcne (talk) 19:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Valentine goddard wiki article
Thanks for the feedback, i had actually just used chat gpt to reformulate the information i gave it so it would sound better is that a problem or is it better that i write it in my own words. And for the sources i only found about 5 news articles and 2 UN publications is that enough? Rowan Harris goddard (talk) 20:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Rowan Harris goddard. The text was written in a way that has the "ChatGPT" voice - it is something that you pick up on easily if you've been around ChatGPT -created articles a lot, like I have.
- As for the sources: only people who meet our special definition of a notable person may have a Wikipedia article written about them. The guidelines are at WP:NBASIC. So far you've not proven notability with your sources- if those sources are the only ones you can find then Valentine is not notable enough yet to have a Wikipedia article, sorry.
- Finally, you should not be writing about a subject you have a close connection to. I assume you are related to Valentine due to your surnames. We call this a Conflict of interest. Qcne (talk) 20:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Lonny Grafman page
Thanks for looking at the Lonny Grafman draft page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lonny_Grafman I took out the appropedia refs and added a bunch more. I tried to go through it again, rearrange and take out promotional stuff but I am honestly having trouble figuring out how to be non-promotional and still show notability. If you see any specific areas that I missed please bold them and I will fix them on the next round. Also - I cant figure out how to upload cc-by-sa image https://www.appropedia.org/User:Lonny#/media/File:LonnyUserpage.jpg please help me do that to illustrate page. Thanks. Taylorswify (talk) 11:04, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- I figured out about how to do images - so fixed that. Is it ok for notability now with the new references? Taylorswify (talk) 00:53, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Taylorswify. I would suggest it still has some promotional language that needs removing:
- - the largest wiki website dedicated to sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives (e.g., to make open source medical tech available for all < if this is a quote from a source, you need to state what source states this. But you can't just repeat verbatim what the About Us of Approprpedia says.
- - which is a full immersion, study abroad, resilient community technology program < PR speak
- - Lonny has taught university courses and workshops in dozens of countries. He has worked, and led teams, on hundreds of domestic and international < this is a bit self-gratuitous Qcne (talk) 13:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
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About Draft:Sydney Angle
So you declined my request to make into a full on page because of an issue related to the sources. However, you kinda left me on a vague note. Can you elaborate more please? BumAMOGUS (talk) 23:06, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @BumAMOGUS. Wikipedia has notability criteria for topics. For your draft, please have a look at WP:NPEOPLE and WP:NCRIME.
- Your sources consist of three obituaries and a local news article, which doesn't meet our criteria set out in either of the above.
- Hope that helps, let me know if you have any questions. Qcne (talk) 23:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Should it be deleted?
Draft:Jose Julian Soberanis Should this draft be deleted or can it be improved? 187.252.199.216 (talk) 06:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately you haven't proven notability under WP:NMUSIC yet. Qcne (talk) 14:42, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- When referring to Wikipedia:NMUSICIs it the artist in question and the songs or just the songs? 187.252.199.216 (talk) 20:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- The artist in question. Qcne (talk) 20:50, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- When referring to Wikipedia:NMUSICIs it the artist in question and the songs or just the songs? 187.252.199.216 (talk) 20:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
The Gemini Ritual declined
I just want to make sure I am clear, I tried to submit an article for my music project, but it wont get approved unless I have a major release, or already have notoriety through articles and interviews in well known publications or internet sites? CoryRaval92 (talk) 21:58, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- @CoryRaval92 that's right, articles about musicians must pass that aforementioned notability criteria before they can be accepted into Wikipedia. By notability we mean significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources that are secondary to the subject.
- Please also note Wikipedia is not to be used to promote a subject, that is strictly prohibited. This is an encyclopedia and not a PR database.
- Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 22:01, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- ok, good to know, I wasnt using it a promotion tool, just an information tool.thank you CoryRaval92 (talk) 22:08, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- @CoryRaval92 No worries, we get thousands of spam articles a month which are purely promotional.
- If your project becomes notable enough feel free to resubmit, though unedited drafts are automatically deleted after five months of no activity. Qcne (talk) 22:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- got it, thanks so much, I appreciate the time and information CoryRaval92 (talk) 22:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- ok, good to know, I wasnt using it a promotion tool, just an information tool.thank you CoryRaval92 (talk) 22:08, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello Qcne, I need assistance.
I have started a draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:João_Ferreira_Sardo) of regional personality from Portugal and a need assistance to improve the article, can you kindly see the article and give me some tips for improvement? Thank you anyway for your time. GafanhadaNazaré (talk) 15:19, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Ahmad Youssef Al Tal (December 28)
hi and thanks for reviewing the article, most of the sources are in Arabic and couldnt find sources in English, how can this issue be solved? Sahar Abuelhaija 12:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sahar.Ahmed (talk • contribs)
- Sahar.Ahmed sources do not have to be in English, but you do need to source every statement. Qcne (talk) 12:37, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- many thanks, will amend it Sahar Abuelhaija 12:39, 28 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sahar.Ahmed (talk • contribs)
Lington cyclecar (rejection)
Perhaps I could give a word of explanation. Whoever compiled the list of United Kingdom cyclecars put every single name in double square brackets, implying a link to a WP article. However, when I clicked on Lington (since I am somewhat interested in the make) I was led to material that has nothing to do with cyclecars. I thought it would be helpful if the name Lington in the UK cyclecar list did actually lead to a relevant article, even if very brief in the manner of Baker & Dale, Bell (cyclecar) or Broadway. I do intend to enlarge the article, but not simply by cut-and-paste from other publications. RoachPeter (talk) 14:25, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @RoachPeter. Thanks for the info- I would recommend then working on the draft and submit it again when you feel it is ready. Feel free to ping me here when you think it's ready and I will have another look! Qcne (talk) 18:06, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Qcne I have done some more work on the Lington cyclecar and would be glad of your opinion on whether this has made it more acceptable. The reference to my home town of Shrewsbury, by the way, reveals why I find this particular make to be of interest! RoachPeter (talk) 12:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @RoachPeter, thanks for working on it. You've an issue with the Advertising section, as it seems to be original research? It sounds a bit backwards but Wikipedia prohibits original research: articles should only summarise/paraphrase what existing published sources state about a topic.
- However I still do not believe the draft meets our notability guidelines I'm afraid to say. Sometimes a company or topic simply didn't make enough impact in reliable published secondary sources to meet our notability guidelines - this isn't uncommon as there have been millions of short lived companies through history!
- The existing articles Baker & Dale, Bell, etc are difficult because if those articles came through the articles for creation process they probably would not be accepted in their current form for the reasons above. Wikipedia guidelines on notability have tightened up over the years, and as a reviewer I am supposed to only look at a draft on it's own merits and not compare to any existing articles.
- Honestly though I am a little torn on this, as Lington is a redlink on the Cyclecar article and we do like to fill out redlinks when we come across them. I'd be happy for another reviewer to have a second opinion on this, but only once you've removed the original research mentioned above. If there is any local press about the advertising in Shrewsbury that discusses the history of the painted advert then that could help support the section.
- Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 13:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- @QcneThanks for quick reply. I will remove the material relating to the old advert. Apart from that, I can't make the Lington any more important than the description I have given, so I will have to leave it in your hands. I do think it would be regrettable to leave the link to Lington going nowhere, as at present, but that's not something I can intervene in. RoachPeter (talk) 16:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- @QcneI have now re-submitted the Lington cyclecar article, minus the stuff abiut the Shrewsbury advert. I hope I have gone about this in the right way RoachPeter (talk) 19:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- You have, yep. Though for me source #4 doesn't seem to work, it just links to a "No photo available" page? Qcne (talk) 19:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Qcne Thanks - that's odd! I have substituted a corrected ref that works (at the time of writing). RoachPeter (talk) 21:54, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- You have, yep. Though for me source #4 doesn't seem to work, it just links to a "No photo available" page? Qcne (talk) 19:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- @QcneI have now re-submitted the Lington cyclecar article, minus the stuff abiut the Shrewsbury advert. I hope I have gone about this in the right way RoachPeter (talk) 19:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- @QcneThanks for quick reply. I will remove the material relating to the old advert. Apart from that, I can't make the Lington any more important than the description I have given, so I will have to leave it in your hands. I do think it would be regrettable to leave the link to Lington going nowhere, as at present, but that's not something I can intervene in. RoachPeter (talk) 16:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Qcne I have done some more work on the Lington cyclecar and would be glad of your opinion on whether this has made it more acceptable. The reference to my home town of Shrewsbury, by the way, reveals why I find this particular make to be of interest! RoachPeter (talk) 12:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Carlos J. Alonso (new page, rejection)
Thanks for the speedy review! Alonso qualifies as a notable academic by virtue of his holding a named chair, criterion #5 at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)#Criteria. Shall I resubmit it? What is my next step? IvyIsFriendly (talk) 17:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @IvyIsFriendly. I did think of criteria #5, but I wasn't sure if the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences counts as a major institution. I've just had a bit of research, though, and I think it passes the line. I've therefore accepted the article. Thanks for the feedback! Qcne (talk) 18:02, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! The Graduate School is the graduate school of Columbia University. It oversees all graduate degrees (MA, MS, PhD) that are granted at Columbia in the arts and sciences. So he holds a named chair at Columbia University, and that chair is independent of his being dean of their graduate school. So hopefully perfectly over the bar! Many thanks again for your speedy help. IvyIsFriendly (talk) 18:06, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- I wonder if I might ask you to take a look at my draft page for another graduate dean (and named professor at Yale!): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lynn_Cooley? This was also rejected on the same grounds, but I think passes the same test. She holds a named professorship at Yale (again, independent of her administrative appointment as dean). Many thanks! IvyIsFriendly (talk) 18:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @IvyIsFriendly- the academic criteria is a weird specific one and often catches me out. I agree that Lynn meets that criteria so have accepted. Qcne (talk) 18:13, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks again for your quick help! (I've got a few more such pages to go...! I'm trying to do all the Ivy+ institutions.) IvyIsFriendly (talk) 18:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Feel free to put them here and I can have a look when ready :) Qcne (talk) 18:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Here's another one, thanks! : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jason_Merchant IvyIsFriendly (talk) 19:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- And a last one for tonight! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jon_Kull Thanks again! IvyIsFriendly (talk) 19:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like that one was declined by @94rain- just checking if you'd seen the WP:NACADEMIC criteria 94rain? I think the Deanish makes him notable under criteria #5. Qcne (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Qcne. I declined it based on NACADEMIC as it didn't come to my mind that any criteria could be met. I'm not sure how this could meet #5. Do you mean they hold a named chair? Does named chair = named professor? I was thinking a named chair needs to have literally a named chair title like Andrew Viterbi as a Presidential Chair Professor. Looks like Deanish is related to #6 but in the specific criteria notes it says
Lesser administrative posts (provost, dean, department chair, etc.) are generally not sufficient to qualify under Criterion 6 alone
. I might be misunderstanding, and I'll continue to do some research later. Please feel free to proceed with acceptance if you see fit. 94rain Talk 20:26, 28 December 2023 (UTC)- Yes, named chair = named professorship. These are typically synonyms (also sometimes called "endowed chair" or "endowed professorship" as well). It's an honor bestowed after someone has already been promoted to Professor (the highest rank in the US system). It's kind of confusing, because "chair" is also used as the name of the head of a department, center, or institute as an administrative title. This second kind of "chair" is not a named chair. So Kull satisfies criterion #5 because he is the Rodgers Professor: that's a named chair. According to the source I cited at Dartmouth, Kull is "the inaugural holder of the Rodgers Professorship at Dartmouth College." Kull is not notable because of being dean: it's because of his endowed chair. Thanks for your patience with all this! IvyIsFriendly (talk) 21:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- I personally hate the academic criteria because it's so confusing, but I am going to err on the side of acceptance on this one. AfC reviewers should accept if there is not a 50% chance it would pass an articles for deletion discussion, and I think it meets that threshold. Accepted. Qcne (talk) 11:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, and agreed about it being confusing. IvyIsFriendly (talk) 12:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- I personally hate the academic criteria because it's so confusing, but I am going to err on the side of acceptance on this one. AfC reviewers should accept if there is not a 50% chance it would pass an articles for deletion discussion, and I think it meets that threshold. Accepted. Qcne (talk) 11:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, named chair = named professorship. These are typically synonyms (also sometimes called "endowed chair" or "endowed professorship" as well). It's an honor bestowed after someone has already been promoted to Professor (the highest rank in the US system). It's kind of confusing, because "chair" is also used as the name of the head of a department, center, or institute as an administrative title. This second kind of "chair" is not a named chair. So Kull satisfies criterion #5 because he is the Rodgers Professor: that's a named chair. According to the source I cited at Dartmouth, Kull is "the inaugural holder of the Rodgers Professorship at Dartmouth College." Kull is not notable because of being dean: it's because of his endowed chair. Thanks for your patience with all this! IvyIsFriendly (talk) 21:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Qcne. I declined it based on NACADEMIC as it didn't come to my mind that any criteria could be met. I'm not sure how this could meet #5. Do you mean they hold a named chair? Does named chair = named professor? I was thinking a named chair needs to have literally a named chair title like Andrew Viterbi as a Presidential Chair Professor. Looks like Deanish is related to #6 but in the specific criteria notes it says
- Looks like that one was declined by @94rain- just checking if you'd seen the WP:NACADEMIC criteria 94rain? I think the Deanish makes him notable under criteria #5. Qcne (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- And a last one for tonight! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jon_Kull Thanks again! IvyIsFriendly (talk) 19:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Here's another one, thanks! : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jason_Merchant IvyIsFriendly (talk) 19:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Feel free to put them here and I can have a look when ready :) Qcne (talk) 18:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks again for your quick help! (I've got a few more such pages to go...! I'm trying to do all the Ivy+ institutions.) IvyIsFriendly (talk) 18:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @IvyIsFriendly- the academic criteria is a weird specific one and often catches me out. I agree that Lynn meets that criteria so have accepted. Qcne (talk) 18:13, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- I wonder if I might ask you to take a look at my draft page for another graduate dean (and named professor at Yale!): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lynn_Cooley? This was also rejected on the same grounds, but I think passes the same test. She holds a named professorship at Yale (again, independent of her administrative appointment as dean). Many thanks! IvyIsFriendly (talk) 18:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! The Graduate School is the graduate school of Columbia University. It oversees all graduate degrees (MA, MS, PhD) that are granted at Columbia in the arts and sciences. So he holds a named chair at Columbia University, and that chair is independent of his being dean of their graduate school. So hopefully perfectly over the bar! Many thanks again for your speedy help. IvyIsFriendly (talk) 18:06, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Redundant AfC comments
At Draft:The McNeil Center for Early American Studies, you commented Please re-write most of the body to be dry, neutral, and non-promotional
. The issue is that the decline comment for the draft already said that, and your comment was too short to provide additional, actionable advice. I see you've left many similar comments when declining articles; please only add comments which expand upon the decline reason. Cheers, Mach61 (talk) 19:36, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Mach61. Adding these comments is a perfectly fine thing to do? I don't see any guidance stating otherwise? I'll continue to add comments as I see fit, thanks. Qcne (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- The comments aren't a huge deal, but they don't have any positive benefit, and since most AfC reviewers only occasionally add comments, it may give newcomers the impression their submissions are unusually bad. Cheers, Mach61 (talk) 19:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- We will agree to disagree, and I will continue to add comments as I see fit. Qcne (talk) 19:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- The comments aren't a huge deal, but they don't have any positive benefit, and since most AfC reviewers only occasionally add comments, it may give newcomers the impression their submissions are unusually bad. Cheers, Mach61 (talk) 19:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Daniela Pes
Hello @Qcne, I would like to translate this page : https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniela_Pes . Her first record was voted as one of the best in 2023 in Italy from the majority of the magazines. Above all, she won the Tenco Award - Targa Tenco#Best Debut Album - probably the most important award for songwriters in Italy (as best new artist in 2023) . I read the gudeline but it is not clear to me I can do the english page. What do you think ? Thank you in advance. Kimbamy (talk) 10:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Kimbamy, I don't speak Italian so I've had to Google Translate the article. Looking at the sources in that article she may pass our WP:NMUSICIAN criteria, especially with that award. I say go for it. Qcne (talk) 19:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much @Qcne :) Kimbamy (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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