Talk:Lucas Cranach the Elder

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Wouldn't it be worth having some more information about Cranach's work with Luther in so much of the early Reformation? -Cranach's images of Luther of 1520, 1521 and as Junker Jorg in 1522. -The Passional Christi und Antichrist series of woodcuts -The September Testament These were all, after all, important images which contributed in part to the reception the Reformation received, and it seems lacking in Cranach to omit a section of his life which influenced so much later Lutheran iconography in its depiction of Luther and its antipapal themes. (5 June)

Younger Lucas Cranach also born 4 October??

I realise that a lot of sites say he was born on 4 October, but none of them that I've found seem to have noted that the elder Lucas Cranach was also born on 4 October. Surely a notable person having a notable son born on the same day as himself is worthy of mention. The fact that they also had the same name leads me to VERY strongly suspect that this is simply a confusion with his father's date of birth. Is there an authoritative reference for the younger's date of birth? -- JackofOz (talk) 00:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Heres a link towards the saxonian biography, stating the birth date of the younger Lucas Cranach: [1]. The birth date of the younger Cranach (Oct 4, 1515) seems pretty sure. The birth date of the elder Cranach isn't sure at all. The date Oct 4, 1472, is from an early 16th century biography by Mathias Gunderam, a relative of the painter. There is no official documents at Kronach about Cranachs birth. Recent research (Lucas Cranach, ein Maler-Unternehmer aus Franken, Augsburg 1994) suggested, that Cranach the elder was born some years after 1472 and he might not have known his correct age by himself. Being born about 1480 would fit much better to the rest of his biography, that with a given birthdate of 1472 otherwise sees him rise from obscurity not before the age of 30+.Schmelzle (talk) 09:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Belated thanks. I've removed the 4th October birth date and made it clear that his birth date was not recorded. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 09:38, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Engvar

Having begun with EB 1911 text, this article should use British English. Johnbod (talk) 12:30, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Cranach Archive

I have no WP:COI concerning this archive (unlike, perhaps, the editor who added the link earlier), and it appears to me to be a valuable resource for readers interested in his work, standing out above the generality of links available through the DMOZ directory. It is a collaboration of international high-power galleries who hold Cranach's work, and for each image it offers a lot of detailed information - see an example. It seems to me to exactly match WP:ELYES's description of: "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to ... amount of detail ". PamD 20:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Agreed - COI or not, the link is valuable. Johnbod (talk) 20:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Nobody is arguing that the link isn't useful. The question now at hand: is the link really so important that we need to break established policy?

You have removed the link 4 times I think. Johnbod (talk) 21:39, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Sites that have been used as sources in the creation of an article should be cited in the article, and linked as references, either in-line or in a references section. Links to these source sites are not "external links" for the purposes of this guideline, and should not normally be duplicated in an external links section.

Why does this one site need to be included twice? Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 21:08, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Because it is a large resource that should not be hidden away referencing basic biographical facts. Johnbod (talk) 21:39, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Something strange is going on here, between the policy-breaking and User:Johnbod's odd claims, but it's not that important to me. I've reverted back to the page—with External links—from before I touched it. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 22:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Date of works

From the article: "The oldest extant picture by Cranach is of 1504". But in the article there is the "Crucifixion of Christ" painting from 1503, and you can see in the German wiki many paintings earlier than 1504. Am I missing something? Brian (talk) 19:51, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

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