Talk:Abolitionist Place

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The result was: promoted by Valereee (talk) 20:37, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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Abolitionist Place street sign in Downtown Brooklyn

• ... that a landmarked house on Abolitionist Place in Downtown Brooklyn may have been a stop on the Underground Railroad?

• QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 18:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
• PS: Some alternative images are here (depicting the "landmarked house"): commons:Category:227 Duffield Street. I picked the street sign because it's most eye-catching at small size. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 18:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Created by Rhododendrites (talk). Self-nominated at 00:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

• Article is new and long enough, hook is cited to the New York Times appropriately, no copyvio issues, and QPQ is done. Interesting to learn about the Underground Railroad, a topic I had not researched before, so thanks for that. Regarding images, Epicgenius seems to be good at getting hold of images of New York architecture. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:59, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

• Ritchie333, thanks for the ping. Since this is in Downtown Brooklyn, I could probably drop by soon to take more images. (Though Rhododendrites is generally better at taking pictures than I am, ironically). Epicgenius (talk) 16:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Ritchie333 and Epicgenius: What kind of image are you thinking would be ideal? Something older? Again, there are photos of what 227 Duffield looks like today in the category linked above. There is unfortunately a tree directly in front and cars in between so those are the best I could manage. A photo of the street from the end wasn't particularly interesting because the only things visible are new buildings and cars. This one shows how the buildings on either side of 227 have been demolished (and in one case rebuilt), but it wasn't IMO as eyecatching at small size, hence why I used the street sign. Also, yeah, I feel lucky to have found a landmark in NYC to write about before EG got there first. :) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

• I meant your image is already pretty good. I was just saying I could also take images, just to add to the Commons category. Epicgenius (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Abolitionist Place/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 20:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• "stop on the Underground Railroad" this needs a little context.
  • I added some context for what the underground railroad is in the background section, and added a source at the end of the paragraph including "stop on the Underground Railroad". If that's not what you meant, could you say more?
• "leading community" the local community?
  • Addressed this.
• "is in development as of July 2021." September now.
  • Actually should've said June 2021, since that's when the last source was published that talks about it. It is indeed still in development now, but that's my OR.
• "with southern states " link? Isn't this normally capitalised, at least "Southern states"?
  • Had to check this. Looks like Wikipedia is pretty inconsistent on the matter, but the best advice I could find recommended capitalizing when it's a group of states rather than state in a particular direction. Done.
• "the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850" of 1850 goes in the link.
  • Done.
• "still largely done in secret" conducted rather than "done".
  • Done. Conducted.
• " c. 1847-50" en-dash and full year, i.e. 1847–1850 unless it's just the first part which is circa, in which case it's c. 1847 – 1850.
  • Done.
• First para of "227 Duffield Street" is unref.
  • Done.
• "1786 – 1862" no spaces. There are more of these.
  • Done.
• " Park.[3][1][10] " order.
  • Done.
• "Railroad.[8][11][3] The" ditto.
  • Done.
• "Professional Archaeologists of New York City (PANYC)" you never use the abbreviation so why bother?
  • Done.
• "publicization" is this really "publication"?
  • Done.
• "use eminent domain to seize" link eminent domain here.
  • Done.
• "name: Abolitionist Place.[16][6]" order, and replace the colon with "of" to reduce the "DRAMA".
  • Sounds fun. I've just learned that AWB disabled auto-ordering refs (one of the only reasons I fire it up) because of "drama"... Done.
• "sold 50% of the property" half?
  • I suppose 50% feels more precise, but I can't really articulate why. Done.
• "mixed-use building in its place.[17][18][14]" order, and link mixed use?
  • Done.
• "president Eric Adams" doesn't need disambiguation.
  • Done.
• "designation.[24][3]" order.
  • Done.
• "House.[2][25][5] The" order.
  • Done.
• "a 15,000 square-foot park" convert.
  • Done.
• " 1.15 acre space" convert.
  • Done.
• Suggest you use the {{reflist}} template for consistency across Wikipedia.
  • No strong opinion here. Visual Editor throws the old fashioned one in there. Done.

That's all I have on a quick pass. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for the review! I think I've addressed nearly everything here. A couple follow-up notes (mainly towards the top). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 05:30, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Can I suggest "Southern states"? It makes sense to capitalize 'Southern' as it's referring to a specific geographical entity and not the general direction. The whole phrase together is not commonly a proper noun. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 13:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Fine by me. Done. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)