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Pronouns

Can we get a definitive answer on whether the subject prefers gender-neutral pronouns, please? I have no objection to the article using them, IF that is the actual case. I'm not convinced it is. Many recent edits have gone back and forth (none with source), creating grammatical travesties like "them self." Any insight on this would be great. Jessicapierce (talk) 21:42, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Genderqueer is ridiculous. The types of sexuality like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality are understandable. The types of gender like male, female, transgender male-female, multigender are understandable. Even combination of sex and gender are understandable but genderqueer? Never. It is just made up to catch public eye. Nico is male and bisexual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.72.229.121 (talk) 03:11, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously? Please disregard the IP's comment above. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:05, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is not up to you to decide, on wikipedia, what is "ridiculous". Genderqueer identities exist, there is a Wikipedia article on the matter, and the debate ends there, as far as Wikipedia is concerned ; keep your opinions for your preferred social media feed. Odusseys (talk) 17:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The answer is: yes, Tortorella prefers they/them/their. See https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5861235/Younger-star-Nico-Tortorella-discusses-gender-fluidity-Playboy.html tooki (talk) 12:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just because Tortorella prefers they/them pronouns doesn’t mean he isn’t male and shouldn’t be referred to as such😭 Remember when Wikipedia was supposed to represent the objective reality?--FollowTheSigns (talk) 14:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just because Tortorella prefers "they/them/their" doesn't mean it is grammatically correct. Equality is one thing, but incorrect Grammar leads to confusion and misunderstandings. Identify as whatever you want - but use neutral language. They and them in these contexts sounds Plural - not singular. Sheesh.

If you want to talk about grammar, perhaps you should look at the Singular They article. It is a correct grammatical construct. Sheesh. Odusseys (talk) 17:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Just because Tortorella prefers they/them pronouns doesn’t mean he isn’t male and shouldn’t be referred to as such😭 Remember when Wikipedia was supposed to represent the objective reality?--FollowTheSigns (talk) 14:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanting to be extremely thorough in terms of having given Red Echidna ample warning and opportunity to read MOS:GENDERID and understand that they are making disruptive edits and edit warring against that guideline. As per the warning on this page, they are at risk of discretionary sanctions if they do not self-revert. —Joeyconnick (talk) 05:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to note that there is no agreement between Red Echidna and me on the use of pronouns in this article, despite what they attempt to insinuate in this edit's summary. This article should clearly use they/them to refer to Tortorella, as per the subject's stated preference. In the interest of avoiding further edit warring, I've reported the matter to the BLP noticeboard. —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Others and I have tried to explain to JoeyConnick what the errors are, but he persists in antecedent-pronoun disagreement. We have again tried to explain that for an encyclopedic entry such an error is not appropriate, that impartiality is the priority, and that his grammar and mechanics have made the article appear informal, elementary, and riddled with errors. I have reported the issue to the board on BLP and also the RfC board. RedEchidna (talk) 06:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]