Panthers–Saints rivalry

Panthers–Saints rivalry
	Saints and Panthers face off during the 2015 season.
	Carolina Panthers New Orleans Saints
Location	Charlotte, New Orleans
First meeting	October 22, 1995 ; Panthers 20, Saints 3
Latest meeting	November 3, 2024; Panthers 23, Saints 22
Next meeting	2025
Stadiums	Panthers: Bank of America Stadium; Saints: Caesars Superdome
Statistics
Meetings total	61
All-time series	Saints: 32–29
Regular season series	Saints: 31–29
Postseason results	Saints: 1–0
Largest victory	Panthers: 45–13 (1999); Saints: 47–10 (2024)
Longest win streak	Panthers: 4 (2002–2004, 2005–2007); Saints: 5 (2000–2002)
Current win streak	Panthers: 1 (2024—present)
Post-season history
	2017 NFC Wild Card: Saints won: 31–26;

The Panthers–Saints rivalry is a National Football League (NFL) rivalry between the Carolina Panthers and New Orleans Saints.

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The Panthers joined the NFL as an expansion team in the 1995 season, joining the Saints as members of the NFC West. As part of the NFL's 2002 division realignment, the Panthers and Saints were both placed in the newly formed NFC South. As divisional rivals, the two teams play each other twice each season.

The Saints lead the overall series, 32–29. The two teams have met once in the playoffs, with the Saints holding a 1–0 record.^[1]

The Saints began play in 1967.^[2] The Panthers, meanwhile, were officially accepted as an NFL franchise in 1993. They began play in 1995, joining the Saints in the NFC West Division.^[3] Both located in the Southeastern United States, the Panthers and Saints had a natural geographic rivalry set-up.^[3] Ultimately, the Panthers and Saints would develop an evenly and hotly-contested rivalry. The latter would also become the most commonly-faced opponent for the former.^[4] For their entire rivalry, the two have been divisional rivals, mostly as members of the NFC South alongside the Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

On October 22, 1995, the Panthers won the first game between the two teams, 20–3.^[3]^[5] From 2000 to 2002, the Saints went on a five-game winning streak over the Panthers, their longest of the rivalry.^[6]

Sam Mills was a figure of the early Panthers–Saints rivalry. A member of the Saints' "Dome Patrol" until 1994, Mills left New Orleans to join the Panthers for their inaugural 1995 season.^[7] Mills took exception to the Saints only expressing interest in re-signing him after the Panthers made him an offer during free agency.^[3]^[7] Mills would later become a member of both the Saints' Hall of Fame and Panthers' Hall of Honor.

After facing off as NFC West rivals from 1995 to 2001,^[8] the Saints and Panthers were moved to the newly formed NFC South in 2002.

In 2003, the Panthers defeated the Saints 23–20 in an overtime game en route to their first Super Bowl appearance.^[9]^[10]

In 2006, quarterback Drew Brees joined the Saints. Sean Payton also joined New Orleans as the team's head coach. The Brees–Payton pairing brought the franchise success, which it notably lacked prior to their arrival.^[11] Brees' record against the Panthers was documented to be historically close in both 2012 and 2015.^[12]^[13] However, Brees would win his final 8 matches against Carolina and finish his career with an 18–11 record against them.^{[note 1]} In his first twelve seasons as the Saints' starter, Brees only missed two games, both road losses at Carolina.^[16]^[17]

After a poor performance during their 2010 season, the Carolina Panthers selected quarterback Cam Newton first overall during the 2011 NFL draft. Linebacker Luke Kuechly was drafted by the Panthers in 2012, becoming a noted figure in the rivalry.^[15] Newton was allegedly one of the quarterbacks named in the Saints' Bountygate scandal.^[18]

During the final week of the 2011 season, the Saints defeated the Panthers. In the game, Brees extended his single-season record for most passing yards, finishing the season with 5,476 and also set the single-season record for most passing completions.^[19] In the game, Newton also became the first rookie quarterback to pass for over 4,000 yards in a season.^[19]

Often engaging in physical and hotly-contested matches, the Saints and Panthers have had scuffles and brawls during matches against each other.^[20] The 2014 season saw chippy games between the two squads; during the second matchup, the teams engaged in numerous fights and "an infamous all-out brawl after a Cam Newton touchdown run, resulting in multiple player ejections."^[16]

Both teams were successful during their 2017 campaigns, each winning 11 games.^[21] The Saints won both regular season matches and won the NFC South division, but the Panthers qualified for the postseason as a wild card. This set up a third game between the two teams during the NFC Wild Card round. New Orleans won at home in what would be a close game, 31–26.^[22]^[23]

The Panthers and Newton would part ways following the 2019 season. Brees would retire from the NFL following the 2020 season.^[15] Brees passed for 7,949 yards and 55 touchdowns in his career against the Panthers, both figures higher than any other player.^[15] In what would be his final regular season game, Brees threw for three touchdowns and led the Saints to a 33–7 victory over the Panthers.^[24] In doing so, the Saints completed a season sweep of the entire NFC South division, becoming the first team to do so.^[25]

Newton briefly returned to the Panthers in 2021, but was on the bench against the Saints.^[26] The 2021 season would also be the last for Payton, as he retired from coaching following the season; he later returned to coach the Denver Broncos in 2023.^[27]

More information Carolina Panthers vs. New Orleans Saints Season-by-Season Results, Season ...

Carolina Panthers vs. New Orleans Saints Season-by-Season Results^[1]

1990s (Panthers, 6–4)

Season	Season series	at Carolina Panthers	at New Orleans Saints	Overall series	Notes
1995	Tie 1–1	Panthers 20–3	Saints 34–26	Tied 1–1	Panthers join the NFL as an expansion team. They are placed in the National Football Conference (NFC) and the NFC West, becoming divisional rivals with the Saints.
1996	Panthers 2–0	Panthers 19–7	Panthers 22–20	Panthers 3–1	Panthers open Ericsson Stadium (now known as Bank of America Stadium). Following their loss in Carolina, Saints head coach Jim Mora delivers famous "Diddly Poo" press conference and then resigns the following day.
1997	Tie 1–1	Saints 16–13	Panthers 13–0	Panthers 4–2
1998	Tie 1–1	Panthers 31–17	Saints 19–14	Panthers 5–3
1999	Tie 1–1	Panthers 45–13	Saints 19–10	Panthers 6–4	In Carolina, Panthers record their largest victory over the Saints with a 32–point differential and score their most points in a game against the Saints.

2000s (Panthers, 11–9)

Season	Season series	at Carolina Panthers	at New Orleans Saints	Overall series	Notes
2000	Saints 2–0	Saints 20–10	Saints 24–6	Tied 6–6	Saints record their first season sweep of the Panthers.
2001	Saints 2–0	Saints 25–23	Saints 27–23	Saints 8–6
2002	Tie 1–1	Saints 34–24	Panthers 10–6	Saints 9–7	During the NFL realignment, both teams are moved to the NFC South.
2003	Panthers 2–0	Panthers 19–13	Panthers 23–20 (OT)	Tied 9–9	Panthers lose Super Bowl XXXVIII.
2004	Tie 1–1	Saints 21–18	Panthers 32–21	Tied 10–10
2005	Tie 1–1	Saints 23–20	Panthers 27–10	Tied 11–11	Saints' home game played at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge due to damage to the Louisiana Superdome caused by Hurricane Katrina
2006	Panthers 2–0	Panthers 21–18	Panthers 31–21	Panthers 13–11	Saints trade for QB Drew Brees.
2007	Tie 1–1	Saints 31–6	Panthers 16–13	Panthers 14–12
2008	Panthers 2–0	Panthers 30–7	Panthers 33–31	Panthers 16–12	Panthers win seven straight road meetings (2002–2008).
2009	Tie 1–1	Panthers 23–10	Saints 30–20	Panthers 17–13	Saints win Super Bowl XLIV.

2010s (Saints, 13–8)

Season	Season series	at Carolina Panthers	at New Orleans Saints	Overall series	Notes
2010	Saints 2–0	Saints 34–3	Saints 16–14	Panthers 17–15
2011	Saints 2–0	Saints 30–27	Saints 45–17	Tied 17–17	Panthers draft QB Cam Newton.
2012	Panthers 2–0	Panthers 35–27	Panthers 44–38	Panthers 19–17
2013	Tie 1–1	Panthers 17–13	Saints 31–13	Panthers 20–18	Panthers clinch the NFC South with their win.
2014	Tie 1–1	Saints 28–10	Panthers 41–10	Panthers 21–19
2015	Panthers 2–0	Panthers 27–22	Panthers 41–38	Panthers 23–19	Cam Newton named AP MVP. Panthers lose Super Bowl 50.
2016	Tie 1–1	Panthers 23–20	Saints 41–38	Panthers 24–20
2017	Saints 2–0	Saints 34–13	Saints 31–21	Panthers 24–22	Both teams finish with 11–5 records, but the Saints clinched the NFC South based on their head-to-head sweep, setting up a playoff matchup at New Orleans.
2017 Playoffs	Saints 1–0	—	Saints 31–26	Panthers 24–23	First postseason meeting. NFC Wild Card.
2018	Tie 1–1	Saints 12–9	Panthers 33–14	Panthers 25–24
2019	Saints 2–0	Saints 42–10	Saints 34–31	Saints 26–25	Last start in the series for Cam Newton.

2020s (Saints, 6–4)

Season	Season series	at Carolina Panthers	at New Orleans Saints	Overall series	Notes
2020	Saints 2–0	Saints 33–7	Saints 27–24	Saints 28–25	Game in Carolina was Drew Brees' final career regular season game and victory.^[28]
2021	Tie 1–1	Panthers 26–7	Saints 18–10	Saints 29–26
2022	Panthers 2–0	Panthers 22–14	Panthers 10–7	Saints 29–28
2023	Saints 2–0	Saints 20–17	Saints 28–6	Saints 31–28
2024	Tie 1–1	Panthers 23–22	Saints 47–10	Saints 32–29	In New Orleans, Saints record their largest victory over the Panthers with a 37–point differential and score their most points in a game against the Panthers. Saints fire head coach Dennis Allen following loss to Panthers in Charlotte.

Summary of Results

Season	Season series	at Carolina Panthers	at New Orleans Saints	Notes
Regular season	Saints 31–29	Tie 15–15	Saints 16–14
Postseason	Saints 1–0	no games	Saints 1–0	NFC Wild Card: 2017
Regular and postseason	Saints 32–29	Tie 15–15	Saints 17–14

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This win–loss record includes his 1–0 record against the Panthers during his tenure with the San Diego Chargers and his 17–11 record against the Panthers during his tenure with the Saints.^[14]^[15]

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This win–loss record includes his 1–0 record against the Panthers during his tenure with the San Diego Chargers and his 17–11 record against the Panthers during his tenure with the Saints.^[14]^[15]

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[Fowler2021-15] [15]
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Background

1995–2001: NFC West rivals

2002–2010: Joining the NFC South and arrival of Drew Brees

2011–2017: Cam Newton in Carolina and playoff matchup

2018–2021: Final seasons of Brees and Newton

Season-by-season results

See also

Notes

References

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