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New Firm
LocationNorth-east Scotland
TeamsAberdeen and Dundee United
Latest meeting4 March 2023
Dundee United 1–3 Aberdeen
Scottish Premiership
Next meeting29 December 2024
Dundee United vs Aberdeen
Scottish Premiership
Statistics
Meetings total248
Most winsAberdeen (99)
Uniforms

The New Firm is the term used, hailing from the 1980s, to describe the rivalry between Scottish football clubs Aberdeen and Dundee United. Both clubs are located on the east coast of Scotland, in the third and fourth most populous cities respectively.

Although not traditionally a derby, with 65 miles separating both teams, the fixture was seen as a North-east of Scotland derby between the two most successful teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm during the 1980s. Dundee United also have a more traditional rivalry with their close neighbours Dundee.

History

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The term originated in the 1980s, when both clubs challenged the Old Firm for domestic trophies.[1] The term was used by Evening Times and The Glasgow Herald.[2][3]

The Old Firm have more often than not been the dominant force in Scottish Football, however throughout the 1980s both Aberdeen and Dundee United were more than a match for them, regularly beating them home and away and winning many of the trophies on offer.

Aberdeen were to win the Scottish Premier Division three times, the Scottish Cup four times, the Scottish League Cup twice, the European Cup Winners' Cup and the European Super Cup, all within the 1980s. In this same period, Dundee United won the Scottish Premier Division once and the Scottish League Cup twice, as well as reaching the Scottish Cup final four times, the 1987 UEFA Cup Final, and the semi-final of the 1983–84 European Cup. Not only were the Old Firm not dominating the title race, but for three seasons in a row, 1983 through to 1985, the league title went to either Aberdeen or Dundee United, meaning for the first time two other teams were dominating Scottish Football.

Both sides' success was limited as they entered the 1990s, with Aberdeen winning both cups in 1989–90, reaching both finals in 1992–93, as well as almost winning the league in 1991, while Dundee United were Scottish Cup finalists in 1991 and finally winners in 1994. However, in the 1994–95 season both sides fought relegation (with United going down), and although Aberdeen won the Scottish League Cup in 1995 and Dundee United the Scottish Cup again in 2010, neither side has managed to be a consistent force for Rangers and Celtic to reckon with, and Aberdeen's league success in 1984–85 is the last time a non-Old Firm club won the Scottish league title.

Since 2010 however, the sides have seen a divergence in fortunes, as Aberdeen capitalised on Rangers' implosion to win the Scottish League Cup in 2014 and finish runners-up behind Celtic for four years running between 2014–15 and 2017–18 (losing three cup finals to the same club in that period), while Dundee United were relegated from the top flight in 2016 having lost the 2014 Scottish Cup Final to a local rival, St Johnstone.

Domestic head-to-head

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In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 246 times, Aberdeen winning 98 compared to United's 79.[4] Aberdeen have won more league and Scottish Cup matches while United have won more League Cup matches between the two.

Given their mutual success particularly in the 1980s, it is perhaps surprising that the only major final featuring both clubs is the 1979–80 Scottish League Cup Final, won by Dundee United in a replay at Dens Park after a draw in Glasgow.

After 8 October 2022:[5][6]
Team League Scottish Cup League Cup Total
Aberdeen 77 12 9 98
Draw 56 9 5 70
Dundee United 62 7 11 80
Totals 195 28 25 248

League competition

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Scottish Premiership Table (2013/14-present – 5 Seasons)

As of 16 May 2018:
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen 5 190 111 30 49 302 191 111 363
Dundee United 3 114 41 22 51 168 176 −8 142

SPL Table (1998/99-2012/13 – 15 Seasons)

Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen 15 566 188 143 235 651 785 −134 707
Dundee United 15 566 173 162 231 674 845 −171 681

European competition

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As of 9 August 2012:
Team T P W D L F A
Dundee United 26 110 46 30 34 168 116
Aberdeen 27 109 44 28 37 160 130

Players at both clubs

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Nine players have signed for Dundee United directly from Aberdeen, the last being in 2000. Ten have made the opposite journey from Tannadice to Pittodrie, with five since August 2005.

Complete list

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In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.

Player records

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A list of players to have scored in derby matches between the two from 27 August 1994 up to 20 November 2021 is below:

Partial game list

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Fixtures from 27 August 1994 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.[26][27] [28] Aberdeen wins are coloured in red, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey.

Date Competition Venue Result Crowd Scorers (Aberdeen) Scorers (United)
27 August 1994 1994–95 Scottish Premier Division Tannadice 2–1 9,332 Grant Welsh, Brewster
29 October 1994 1994–95 Scottish Premier Division Pittodrie 3–0 11,744 Kane (2), Booth
2 January 1995 1994–95 Scottish Premier Division Tannadice 0–0 10,560
6 May 1995 1994–95 Scottish Premier Division Pittodrie 2–1 20,124 Dodds, Shearer Winters
28 September 1996 1996–97 Scottish Premier Division Tannadice 1–0 10,359 McSwegan
16 November 1996 1996–97 Scottish Premier Division Pittodrie 3–3 13,807 Kiriakov, Kombouaré, Dodds McLaren, Winters, Olofsson
1 January 1997 1996–97 Scottish Premier Division Tannadice 4–0 9,736 Winters, Pressley (2), Olofsson
15 March 1997 1996–97 Scottish Premier Division Pittodrie 1–1 13,645 Windass Olofsson
30 August 1997 1997–98 Scottish Premier Division Pittodrie 1–1 12,060 Dodds Winters
15 October 1997 1997–98 Scottish League Cup SF Tynecastle 1–3 10,456 Windass Winters (2), Easton
9 November 1997 1997–98 Scottish Premier Division Tannadice 5–0 7,893 Olofsson (2), Zetterlund, McLaren, Easton
3 January 1998 1997–98 Scottish Premier Division Pittodrie 1–0 17,025 Windass
24 January 1998 1997–98 Scottish Cup R3 Tannadice 1–0 11,488 Winters
11 April 1998 1997–98 Scottish Premier Division Tannadice 0–0 9,155
4 October 1998 1998–99 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–0 8,933 McSwegan
28 November 1998 1998–99 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 0–3 11,964 Olofsson, J.Miller, Easton
20 February 1999 1998–99 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–0 8,309 Olofsson, Dodds, Hannah
17 April 1999 1998–99 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 0–4 11,603 Dodds (2), J.Miller, Olofsson
18 September 1999 1999–2000 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 1–2 11,814 Dow Hannah, Dodds
6 November 1999 1999–2000 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–1 8,170 Solberg Dodds (2), Paterson
27 December 1999 1999–2000 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 3–1 16,656 Zerouali, Belabed, Stavrum Hannah
13 February 2000 1999–2000 Scottish League Cup SF Dens 1–0 9,500 Stavrum
12 March 2000 1999–2000 Scottish Cup QF Tannadice 0–1 6,738 Jess
25 March 2000 1999–2000 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 6,723 Stavrum Ferraz
23 September 2000 2000–01 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–5 7,699 Winters (3), Young, Jess Easton, McConalogue, Hannah
17 March 2001 2000–01 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 8,457 Winters C.Miller
4 April 2001 2000–01 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 4–1 9,962 Stavrum (3), Young Griffin
20 May 2001 2000–01 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 1–2 11,633 Stavrum Venetis, Lilley
15 September 2001 2001–02 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–1 12,948 Winters, Zerouali McIntyre
15 December 2001 2001–02 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 9,129 Winters Easton
16 February 2002 2001–02 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 4–0 13,612 Winters, Young (2), Mike
11 September 2002 2002–03 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 1–2 10,724 Mackie Thompson (2)
30 November 2002 2002–03 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 8,621 McGuire Hamilton
16 February 2003 2002–03 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 3–0 9,146 Sheerin (2), McGuire
24 May 2003 2002–03 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 0–2 8,516 Mackie, Tosh
18 October 2003 2003–04 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 0–1 11,234 McLaren
17 January 2004 2003–04 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–2 8,888 Booth, Clark Robson, C.Miller, Dodds
3 April 2004 2003–04 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 3–0 8,449 Hinds, McGuire, Sheerin
11 September 2004 2004–05 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 10,995 Mackie Wilson
27 November 2004 2004–05 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 1–0 12,038 Tosh
27 February 2005 2004–05 Scottish Cup QF Tannadice 4–1 8,661 Byrne Archibald, Grady (2), Crawford
2 March 2005 2004–05 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–2 6,688 Diamond, Stewart Scotland
30 July 2005 2005–06 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 12,404 Nicholson L.Miller
25 October 2005 2005–06 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–0 10,720 Smith, Crawford
7 January 2006 2005–06 Scottish Cup R3 Tannadice 2–3 8,218 Crawford (2), Nicholson Fernandez (2)
21 January 2006 2005–06 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 9,936 Mackie Archibald
21 October 2006 2006–07 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 3–1 10,747 Mackie, Nicholson (2) Robson
30 December 2006 2006–07 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–1 12,329 Severin Samuel (2), Robson
7 April 2007 2006–07 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–4 12,148 Lovell, Mackie Daly, Hunt, Cameron (2)
4 August 2007 2007–08 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–0 12,496 D.Robertson
3 November 2007 2007–08 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–0 11,964 Aluko, L.Miller
19 January 2008 2007–08 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–0 8,579 Hunt, Robson (2)
5 February 2008 2007–08 Scottish League Cup SF Tynecastle 1–4 12,046 Considine Dods, Kalvenes, Conway, Gomis
3 May 2008 2007–08 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–1 10,312 Foster, Touzani Swanson
20 September 2008 2008–09 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 0–1 11,041 Sandaza
8 November 2008 2008–09 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 2–1 9,490 Mackie Sandaza, Feeney
21 February 2009 2008–09 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–2 14,673 Severin, Diamond Sandaza, D.Robertson
7 May 2009 2008–09 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 10,407 L.Miller Goodwillie
24 October 2009 2009–10 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 0–2 11,776 Casalinuovo, Gomis
2 January 2010 2009–10 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 0–1 10,032 Mulgrew
20 March 2010 2009–10 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–2 9,316 Diamond, Paton Daly (2)
11 September 2010 2010–11 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–1 9,793 Vernon Daly, Howard, og, Goodwillie
1 January 2011 2010–11 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 1–1 12,487 Maguire Goodwillie
7 March 2011 2010–11 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 3–1 7,416 Magennis Douglas, Conway, Swanson
15 October 2011 2011–12 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 3–1 10,256 Árnason, Mawéné, Considine Dalla Valle
2 January 2012 2011–12 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–2 11,471 Chalali, Árnason Daly
7 April 2012 2011–12 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 3–1 8,439 Mackie, Clark, Jack Daly
20 October 2012 2012–13 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–1 9,858 McGinn Rankin
2 January 2013 2012–13 Scottish Premier League Pittodrie 2–2 13,176 Vernon, McGinn Gunning, Langfield, og
6 April 2013 2012–13 Scottish Premier League Tannadice 1–0 8,577 Boulding
19 October 2013 2013–14 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 1–0 12,654 Zola
1 January 2014 2013–14 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 1–2 12,601 Robson, Pawlett Souttar
29 March 2014 2013–14 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 1–1 14,627 McGinn Paton
6 May 2014 2013–14 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 1–3 8,677 Vernon (3) Dillon
10 August 2014 2014–15 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 0–3 16,471 Dow, Mackay-Steven, Erskine
13 December 2014 2014–15 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 0–2 11,196 Rooney (2)
31 January 2015 2014–15 Scottish League Cup SF Hampden 2–1 29,608 Daniels Morris, Ciftci
18 April 2015 2014–15 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 1–0 12,619 Rooney
2 May 2015 2014–15 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 1–0 8,686 Muirhead
2 August 2015 2015–16 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 0–1 10,706 McLean
7 November 2015 2015–16 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 2–0 12,805 Rooney, Hayes
2 March 2016 2015–16 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 0–1 9,737 Church
11 February 2018 2017–18 Scottish Cup R5 Pittodrie 4–2 11,611 Rooney, Mackay-Steven (2), McLean Stanton, McMullan
17 October 2020 2020-21 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 0–0
2 January 2021 2020-21 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 0–0
20 March 2021 2020–21 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 1–0 Spörle
25 April 2021 2020–21 Scottish Cup QF Pittodrie 0–3 McNulty (2), Edwards
1 August 2021 2021-22 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 2–0 6,305 Hayes, Ramirez
20 November 2021 2021–22 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 1–0 9,927 Harkes
26 February 2022 2021–22 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 1–1 18,719 Edwards, og McNulty
8 October 2022 2022–23 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 4–0 11,010 Behich, Watt, McGrath, McCrorie, og
12 November 2022 2022–23 Scottish Premiership Pittodrie 1–0 17,035 Miovski
4 March 2023 2022–23 Scottish Premiership Tannadice 1–3 11,048 Duk, McCrorie, Watkins McGrath

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