Talk:51 Pegasi b

Links and references

I've added some details from the German wiki article, but left out a paragraph on Dr. David Latham speculating on a second planet around 51 Peg. I do recall discussion on a second planet from detailed analysis of the doppler plots, but cannot now find believable references, and all reliable sources just list the one 51 Peg b.

Some intersting references:

• David Gray's comments, somewhat disappointed in not having more star data
• 1997 confirmation paper by GEOFFREY W. MARCY et al
• 1997 paper Artie P. Hatzes et al

- Wikibob

Article title

I am of the opinion that this article should be moved to 51 Pegasi B or similar. Bellerophon is an unofficial title, not endorsed by the IAU who are the arbiters of astronomical nomenclature. It is not used by scientists - a search of the literature reveals not a single use of the word, in contrast to hundreds of references to 51 Peg B, which is still the official name for this planet.

I will move this article in a few days time unless there are objections. Worldtraveller 15:26, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

You're right, no unofficial names should be used as a article names. However, extrasolar planets are usually marked with shortcase letters. Several of the known extrasolar systems consist of binary stars, for example τ Boo. τ Boo b (or more correctly, τ Boo Ab) is the planet orbiting bright component A, but τ Boo B is a distant red dwarf companion. So this article should be named 51 Pegasi b. Jyril 12:54, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

WP:RM

• Talk:51 Pegasi B : 51 Pegasi B → Bellerophon (planet) — because Bellerophon is the common name, and the one the press uses. 132.205.15.43 03:53, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've deleted the redirect to facilitate this move if there is consent for it. If there is consent for it to stay, please recreate the redirect. Deco 03:57, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, you recreated it, thereby making the move you propose impossible for non-admins. I'm not sure why you'd act against yourself, but oh well, I'm not deleting it again. Deco 04:00, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I was rather making this a sweep of all the planet names, so that there could be consensus on the proper naming of these things. User:Worldtraveller renamed just about all of them...132.205.15.43 04:04, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• COMMENT there are several designations for a star, but the nickname is probably the easiest one to use for the planet. 132.205.15.43 04:04, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• NOTE: Talk:PSR B1620-26c+Talk:51 Pegasi B+Talk:Tau Boötis Ab+Talk:Osiris (planet)+Talk:70 Virginis b — these are the planets where we should come up with a consistent naming convention for. 132.205.15.43 05:06, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• see also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Astronomical_objects#Extrasolar_Planets 132.205.15.43 05:09, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• object 51 Pegasi b is the name listed by most astronomical sources, a few of which give Bellerophon as its nickname or informal name; someone copying the 51 Pegasi b from an exoplanet listing into Google will get results specific to the planet, whereas googling for Bellerophon gives very different results. Agree that consistent naming convention is needed, see [1]. -Wikibob | Talk 10:26, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC)
• Oppose this move, agree fully with what Wikibob has said. I've posted my opinion on the naming conventions for extrasolar planets at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Astronomical_objects#Extrasolar_Planets Worldtraveller 12:43, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose. But rename the article as 51 Pegasi b, as other extrasolar planets are designated in similar way. Uppercase B may be confusing in the case of binary stars. --Jyril 13:33, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. violet/riga (t) 22:05, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Temperature

Where does the value of 1295 K in the infobox come from? As far as I am aware the temperature of this planet has not been directly observed. Citations anyone? Chaos syndrome 01:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it is copypasted from Extrasolar Visions.--Jyril 06:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Seems like it's back in the article. I'm removing it for now (see comments on Talk:51 Pegasi). Chaos syndrome 11:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I found the criteria which planetary speculators have been using to gauge the temperature (assumption of a pure grey 0.1 albedo surface with no atmosphere). This is quite obviously a stand-in for insolation and not a real temperature. However even that much is good enough to place it between two planets which have been measured, viz. HD 189733 b and HD 209458 b‎. I am reinstating the temperature alongside this information. --Zimriel (talk) 17:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

About the image....

Okay, let me get things straight. I am a big fan of artist's impressions of exosolar planets, and I like it when articles have them. However, although this article states that 51 Pegasi b is very close to its sun, I highly doubt that it actually comes that close to 51 Pegasi. Besides, it looks like it was drawn using a colored pencils. Fusion7 17:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Discovery Site

The article states that the discovery of this planet was made by Mayor and Queloz using Observatoire de Haute-Provence. In the article legend the 'discovery site' is listed as California, United States. Unless I am missing something, should it not read Provence, France? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.124.16.33 (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

The first

The article begins as follows:
"51 Pegasi b, also unofficially named Bellerophon and or abbreviated as 51 Peg b, is an extrasolar planet approximately 50 light-years away in the constellation of Pegasus. 51 Pegasi b was the first planet to be discovered orbiting a Sun-like star (namely 51 Pegasi)"

Assuming its main importance is being "the first", I would suggest changing these sentences to something like this:

"51 Pegasi b, also unofficially named Bellerophon and or abbreviated as 51 Peg b, was the first planet discovered outside our solar system. It's an extrasolar planet, orbiting a Sun-like star (namely 51 Pegasi) approximately 50 light-years away in the constellation of Pegasus."
What do you think? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 07:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

It'd be incorrect because the first planet discovered outside our solar system was PSR B1257+12 B Jagger11 (talk) 01:46, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Unofficial name

This sentence is outdated: "Only two other extrasolar planets were given unofficial or informal names". There are now unofficial names for all exoplanets, listed in this url —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.243.230.54 (talk) 20:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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Discovery Table

On this page, and every other exoplanet page I have checked, there is a table which says "Discovered by" which links to the "list of minor planet discoverers" wikipedia page. Since minor planets are small bodies in our solar system, they have no relation to exoplanets, and this link should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericagol (talk • contribs) 16:48, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

bellerophon planet

bellerophon planet 2600:4040:A204:8400:81BC:77DE:1186:C88B (talk) 11:51, 15 January 2023 (UTC)