Talk:Afrin, Syria

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Afrin [Kurdish: Afrîn or Efrîn, Arabic: عفرين, مدينة عفرين ، مركز منطقة عفرين] is the designation both for a district region in the Syrian province Aleppo [Aleppo Governorate], as well as for the government city of the same name (with approximately 80,000 inhabitants). The region Afrin known as [Kurd-Dagh], [Kurdish: Çiyayê Kurd yan Kurmanc جبل الاكراد; English: Mountain of the Kurds and/or Kurd-Mountain, Kurd mountains] far admits. The district has a surface of 3.850 square kilometer and e.g. consists of 7 municipalities (Afrin (center), Jindêrês, Sharan, Mahbata/Mahbatli, Rajo, Bulbul, Shiyê) with 366 villages like Qatma, Kastall, Qîbar, Rajo and Midan Akbes. The name Afrîn means on Kurdish literally fruitfully creation.

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Contentious merger of Afrin, Syria, Afrin District and Afrin Canton articles

Hey @Dbachmann:
while otherwise appreciating your efforts, your unilateral decision to merge the Afrin District and Afrin Canton articles into the town's article IMHO is a bad idea.
Even if the overall article quality is on a stub-to-start level, you can't merge different entities just to make at least one of the articles comprehensive enough. The Afrin district consists of a multitude of municipalities. If the Efrin article is too short we will have to cover the topic more thoroughly, or accept that it currently has to remain a stub. What we simply can't do is throw in other stuff until it is long enough.
If I get you right, one of your motivations was avoiding duplication. Now while that's a fine motivation, your approach is very much flawed and in fact leads to more, not less text duplication. It won't take long until the articles are recreated, as you can already see on the Afrin District article.
It is worth discussing whether Afrin Canton can be considered the successor of Afrin district, so the district might be merged into the canton. But for now I have to revert your changes and will try my best to recover your textual improvements. Regards, --PanchoS (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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About the stele in Luwian language, found in Afrin

Hello, I am a Turkish user and I was translating this article from English into Turkish. And in "History" part, I realised an information in the text is not exist in the source. The text says: « In a field northwest of the city, a 9th or 8th century BC Luwian stele (named the Afrin stele) was discovered... »

And I checked the source (3rd source) but there is no information about that stele was written in Luwian language. Can someone check it too? If there is no information about this language, we should add an {Citation needed} tag or delete the part about Luwian language. –Amillians^Talk 24 January 2018

The source do not mention the language because all the inscriptions in it are Luwian. The source is vol 1 of the corpus of hieroglyphic luwian inscriptions. This is its page on the publisher website. https://www.degruyter.com/view/product/5104 Cheers.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 16:40, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Template contradiction

Someone introduced a template contradiction, yet there is no discussion here about the contradiction. Please engage in the talk page or try to solve the edit conflict yourself before adding such templates.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:53, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

My removal of POV pushing on July 5, 2021

The first paragraph that i removed was because it was based on a video shown on the website of The Independent. The Independent is owned by Russian oligarch and former KGB Officer Alexander Lebedev. So it cannot be neutral with respect to the rebels and their Turkish allies. So there is a random video that shows a few angry fighters making threats to their enemies in the heat of battle. What does it mean ? Nothing. It is some of the worst level of journalism from a tabloid level media. Also, the head of the Syrian Organization of Human Rights (SOHR) is anti-Turkish.

The second paragraph that i removed was because it was based on kurdistan24.net, which is a biased source. The third paragraph that i removed was because it was based on a POV description of a photograph. It is not what the media have said, but rather a description by a Wikipedia editor. This constitutes original research, which is not allowed. Tradedia^talk 20:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

The independent is not just unreliable because it is owned by a former KGB Officer. It has been classified [as reliable at the WP:RSN] per WP:snowball clause, so this argument is nothing wort at all for the moment. Revisit the WP:RSN and challenge the decision there. To blame any source that reports on Turkish human rights violations in Syria as unreliable or biased, and remove then other sources as well, doesn't help as well.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:21, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

It is not black or white. Most editors voted «Generally Reliable» and one editor rightfuly said "... It Depends… context matters. Generally, it is reliable, but that does not mean it is universally reliable ..."  The fact that it is owned by a Russian oligarch does make it not neutral with respect to the Syria war. Also, the video is not evidence of human rights violations. It just shows a few angry fighters making threats to their enemies in the heat of battle. Including this in an article about a city is undue weight.

You also put back a paragraph that was based on kurdistan24.net, which is a biased source. You also put back a paragraph that was based on original research without explanation. Tradedia^talk 23:05, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I take you to WP:RSN Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:53, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Just so you know, Reuters reports the same as Kurdistan24. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:28, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok, i have put back the statement along with the Reuters source. Tradedia^talk 07:09, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I have opened a discussion at the WP:RSN about Kurdistan24, here anyone who is interested can take part in the discussion. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)