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Infobox looks weird
[edit]Hoping this makes sense - the officeholder infobox across every single page appears to have slightly changed on desktop but in doing so it seems to have made the Anthony Albanese officeholder infobox super wide?
Not sure why and not a major thing but would probably look visually better if that's addressed, hoping other people know what I mean Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Actually I should clarify, it seems a lot of things have been changed on Wiki overnight
- Point stands about the AA infobox being oddly wide though Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 23:39, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- It looks OK to me.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:10, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Huh, it also looks fine to me now
- Nevermind then, no issue Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 08:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- It looks OK to me.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:10, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Qantas corruption allegations
[edit]sky news Australia will not shut up about Albanese allegedly using his position to get free first class on Qantas flights.
This is severe corruption if true which it likely is (there are lots published partially which date as far backs as his tenure as transport Minister.) allegedly some bribery in the part of the head of Qantas. 49.3.1.177 (talk) 10:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- i meant to say logs not lots. 49.3.1.177 (talk) 10:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Referral to ICC edit request <semi-protected>
[edit]I suggest the following addition in light of Anthony Albanese being the first Western leader to be referred to the ICC as Accessory to Genocide in Gaza.
In July 2024, the Office of the Prosecutor – International Criminal Court (OTP-ICC) accepted an Article 15 Communication by Sydney law firm Birchgrove Legal identifying Anthony Albanese as an accessory to genocide. The communiqué cited the complicity of Albanese and other ministers from the Australian Labor and Liberal parties in the Israeli aggression in Gaza, which has been found to plausibly constitute genocide by the International Court of Justice. Albanese was the first Western leader to be referred to the ICC as an accessory to genocide.
https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/genocide-complicity-claim-against-pm-albanese-accepted-icc
https://www.commondreams.org/news/australian-pm-icc
https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203454 Cicle314 (talk) 10:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Being the first at something usually means doing something that stands out ahead of the rest of the field. That doesn't seem to be the case here. Something could probably be included, but without any emphasis on being the first. HiLo48 (talk) 05:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- WorkersBushTelegraph (run by Karen Brewer I believe) and Socialist Alliance's Green Left Weekly? Some amazingly reliable sources. Not. TarnishedPathtalk 10:45, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not happy with the sources regarding the acceptance of the evidence? Then use this one instead: https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/genocide-complicity-claim-against-australian-pm-added-to-the-iccs-palestine-investigation/
- It is factual that he was the first; I don't see why it shouldn't be included. It doesn't need to be foregrounded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cicle314 (talk • contribs) 12:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's simply not significant that he was the first. Even mentioning it could imply to some readers that his actions were worse than those of everyone else. Do we actually know how he came to be the first? HiLo48 (talk) 23:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I assume it is because the law firm that referred him was the first law firm in a Western country to do so. Regardless, whether or not we can reach a consensus about the relevance of him being the first, the fact of his referral and the acceptance of that referral into evidence by the ICC nevertheless stands. So, I hope to see this added to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cicle314 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- That source is clearly a blog (it's in the URL). Please refer to WP:BLPSPS. TarnishedPathtalk 02:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Well, you didn't accept the earlier articles because they were from sources you deemed 'unreliable', although you didn't provide any evidence for why these particular news outlets are 'unreliable'. I am forced to conclude it is because they are 'leftist'. In fact, I have the transcript of the email correspondence from the ICC to Birchgrove Legal sitting in front of me; it was emailed to me by Birchgrove legal upon request. So I now have the primary source material. I don't propose to cite the email; it is unpublished. I merely propose to go ahead with the citation of the media I linked above (not the blog post). The Green Left is listed on Wikipedia as an Australian newspaper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Left_(Australian_newspaper)) and so I do not see the basis on which you doubt it, unless you do so in bad faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cicle314 (talk • contribs) 11:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Daily Mail is listed as a newspaper also and it is clearly unreliable. If you want to raise the question of whether Green Left Weekly is reliable with the community you can bring it up at WP:RS/N. TarnishedPathtalk 23:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well, you didn't accept the earlier articles because they were from sources you deemed 'unreliable', although you didn't provide any evidence for why these particular news outlets are 'unreliable'. I am forced to conclude it is because they are 'leftist'. In fact, I have the transcript of the email correspondence from the ICC to Birchgrove Legal sitting in front of me; it was emailed to me by Birchgrove legal upon request. So I now have the primary source material. I don't propose to cite the email; it is unpublished. I merely propose to go ahead with the citation of the media I linked above (not the blog post). The Green Left is listed on Wikipedia as an Australian newspaper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Left_(Australian_newspaper)) and so I do not see the basis on which you doubt it, unless you do so in bad faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cicle314 (talk • contribs) 11:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's simply not significant that he was the first. Even mentioning it could imply to some readers that his actions were worse than those of everyone else. Do we actually know how he came to be the first? HiLo48 (talk) 23:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
But what does this referral (or whatever it is) ultimately mean? It seems highly unlikely to me that it will end up with any prosecution against Albanese, or that there will be any other formal negative result. This is a political stunt, not something we should be giving weight to in our article. HiLo48 (talk) 22:33, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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