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A fact from Calico Cooper appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 October 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Sheryl Cooper (pictured) and her daughter Calico beheaded Sheryl's husband in front of a live audience?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sheryl Cooper.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 10:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sheryl Cooper

... that Sheryl Cooper (pictured) and her daughter Calico beheaded Sheryl's husband in front of a live audience? Source: "...Sheryl Goddard; she played the sadistic head-severing nurse in his ’70s stage performances..." [1]; "For all that, [Calico Cooper] remains very involved in her father's act, even appearing on stage as a nurse presiding over his 'beheading'." (digitized version of a print feature)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2023 missile strike on the Sevastopol Naval Base; Template:Did you know nominations/El Ojo
- Comment: This would be a great entry for late October/Halloween. I've written the hook so it's Easter-eggy but should be both grammatically and technically accurate (though the show still runs, past tense is accurate as reflecting the sources).
- This also is a Women in Red entry.

5x expanded by 3family6 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:45, 25 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sheryl Cooper; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Reviewing-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Both articles classify as 5x expansions from September 24 according to DYK check.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Both articles are sufficiently long.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Both are adequately sourced.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sheryl's 25.9 copyvio number is attributable to direct quotation and Calico has a 50.7 attributable to direct quotation.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:54, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hook cited in both and interesting.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:16, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hook 99 characters not counting ellipsis and counting (pictured).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:18, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hook is licensed for free use and is used in the article. It is quite clear.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I sometimes see images that have the notation that the image may be subject to personality rights. This is the type of picture that would be most subject to such rights. So I am not really clear what the relevance of that consideration is.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the subject of the alternate image is very discernable/clear-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:25, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ is done.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:25, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would say the nomination passes. I am just not sure about the personality rights of the image as I noted above. Looking for an expert second opinion. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:25, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TonyTheTiger I'm not aware of this being an issue for public personalities/artistic performers when holding a public event/performing, but Commons:Village pump/Copyright is probably the best resource for someone with expertise here.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 00:42, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and posted the question, with a link to this discussion.3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 00:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, this striking image could be used:

3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 16:40, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Commenting only with respect to personality rights, this is a photograph taken of a performer during a performance where tickets were sold to the public; it wouldn't be the sort of thing that would draw a reasonable expectation of privacy. There are probably non-copyright restrictions that apply to the photograph (one probably can't use those images to endorse a product, for example), but I don't see any reason at the moment why this would pose a problem for hosting on Commons. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 01:38, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Similarly, with respect to personality rights. Couldn't be used in an advertisement or in a context that implied an endorsement (that's the personality right issue), but no expectation of privacy. Commons hosts literally tens of thousands (probably hundreds of thousands) of images of performers on stage. I personally have taken over a thousand such. - Jmabel | Talk 16:21, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thx User:Red-tailed hawk and User:Jmabel. I just didn't know what personality rights really meant.
Good to go and image is eligible for the main page.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:57, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]