Talk:Kash Patel

Alex Ward was wrong

This article needs to be updated with the latest reporting from Axios (https://www.axios.com/off-the-rails-trump-cia-kash-patel-6c5ea317-43e9-48da-993f-5c7ab823c4c1.html), as well as the fact that there's a new administration. -- 72.194.4.183 (talk) 07:25, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done Chetsford (talk) 18:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

This article needs to be updated in that it refers to the Nunez memo as alleging FBI misconduct in the FISA Court warrant applications when in fact FBI malfeasance was proven in the Muller Report and by the Justice Department Inspector General. On one hand the FBI obscured salient facts about the source of much information the Warrents were based on. Most egregiously, an FBI lawyer responsible for preparing the 4th warrent request falsified and altered evidence to make it appear that Carter Page was not a CIA source when in fact they had stated he was. Johnnsmiley (talk) 07:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2021

Add the following information to the "Early Career" section discussing his employment as a trial attorney in the United States Department of Justice National Security Division:

In February 2016, Patel sparked controversy after attending a court proceeding before a District Court Judge in Houston without proper attire. The Judge commented to Patel: "what is the utility to me and to the people of America to have you fly down here at their expense, eat at their expense and stay at their expense when there are plenty of capable people over there, in this room plus over there? You’re just one more nonessential employee from Washington. . . . You don’t add a bit of value, do you?"

The Judge suggested taxpayer money by attending the hearing in the first place. He subsequently excused Patel from the proceedings and issued an "Order on Ineptitude" to describe his conduct.

Smooster1213 (talk) 00:09, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. WP:UNDUE concerns, not WP:NPOV. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done I concur, so I've added some of the material to the article. There are WP:NPOV problems without it, which would seem to be covering up the warts and blemishes on this BLP. Elizium23 (talk) 06:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

References

The information is no longer in the article, and I agree with that decision. Yes, this is well sourced, but the bottom line is that's it's a story about a single screw-up (or, if you will, a bunch of mistakes involving a single case). And that isn't appropriate for Wikipedia, which is about providing an **overview**. [If this were an article about an attorney who had been disbarred for a series of mistakes, or who had been covered in media as having an erratic legal career, then sure, this issue should be included. But Patel isn't in either category.] -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Lol, this is one of the most biased, poorly sourced Wikipedia entries I think I've seen.

It seems wikipedia isn't even attempting to create the veneer that it is an apolitical, fact based source. Briandrewdrew (talk) 02:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

WP:SOFIXIT. clpo13_(talk) 02:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Correct. Wikipedia is nowhere near reality. They should have just stuck with movie articles and basic pop culture. They can't even get the ABBA page done right. Good grief! 2600:1700:9F90:2EA0:986B:ABB8:6062:F40E (talk) 16:14, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

If either of you want to improve the article by pointing out biased sources, or statements in the article that are wrong [and providing a source for why you think they are wrong], that would be great. Other, you're not really helping. (See fake news.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Maybe if they just eliminated all the anonymously sourced "facts" and quotes from clearly left-leaning publications' opinion articles (again, without attribution), it might have some level of credibility. Oh, and if you need to have specific passages pointed out, you are part of the problem (deception and deceitful propaganda), and not helpful to dissemination of truth. Rickerwill (talk) 02:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

The trending political pages on Wikipedia are run and tightly locked down by a handful of moderators with an agenda. If you peruse the talk pages on certain politicians' entries, you'll see what I mean. 2601:447:D185:3340:BC3E:22EF:E6F0:DFB0 (talk) 05:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

PLEASE REMOVE ATTEMPTS.

The truth is they didn't attempt, they had succeeded in proving that Christopher Steele, author of the "Steele Dossier" was paid for by the DNC by using a subpoena on a bank, forcing Fusion GPS to admit that Christopher Steele had been paid for by the DNC, aswell as having 65 "witnesses" ranging from attorney generals to James Comey himself, admit under oath, that there was no evidence or information that the Trump administration colluded, conspired, or coordinated with any member of the Russian government to secure the election victory.

STOP BEING BIAS AND JUST TELL THE TRUTH. 65.94.104.215 (talk) 20:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Unhinged WP:OR nonsense. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:49, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, you are, Snoogan. And stay off my pages at Uncyclo. Nobody cares what your problem is. 2600:1700:9F90:2EA0:986B:ABB8:6062:F40E (talk) 16:16, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

It would be very helpful if, when you don't like some text in the article, that you actually include the text that you don't like when you post to a Talk page like this. Wikipedia articles change all the time; I have no idea exactly what the (claimed) problem is. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:22, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

This whole wiki is a joke, politics-wise. I found a talk page on Jordan Peterson, and some moderator didn't like that his page was shown on a semi-positive light, so he states: "I'm going to make some edits to 'steer it in the right direction.'" Fucking clowns. 2601:447:D185:3340:BC3E:22EF:E6F0:DFB0 (talk) 05:09, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Photo

That's one heck of a picture of Kash Patel. No political bias here. -- AstroU (talk) 14:23, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@AstroU: If there is a better picture at Wikimedia Commons, please suggest it here (provide a link). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:22, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Try this one:

Kash_Patel_Epoch_Times

TruthIsHer (talk) 18:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! A great improvement, TruthIsHer (talk) 01:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

You need better sources

This is totally politically biased. The story on the fundraising event?: Really? 2600:1700:7D20:AB60:43ED:11DB:1B62:40A4 (talk) 02:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm not seeing anything about a fundraising event. If it's still in the article, please include a sentence or two, here, so it's easy to find. And if there are other things in the article that you (or others) think are politically biased, please be specific about what they are (provide the text in the article), and why you think there is bias (bad source, contradicted by a good source that you provide, or wording that you propose replacement wording for). [We're not mind-readers here, unfortunately, so generalities aren't really helpful.] -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2023

Information in the book is not true as stated in the wiki article reads:

“Patel is the author of a children's picture book, titled The Plot Against the King, which articulates the fact that the Steele dossier was used as evidence to initiate investigations in Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. “

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/16/former-trump-official-kash-patel-writes-childrens-book-repeating-false-claim-over-steele-dossier

“ In reality the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign after a foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, told an Australian diplomat that Russia had political “dirt” on Hillary Clinton ahead of the 2016 presidential election.”

Maybe it should read:

“Patel is the author of a children's picture book, titled The Plot Against the King, which FALSELY articulates the fact that the Steele dossier was used as evidence to initiate investigations in Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. In reality the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign after a foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, told an Australian diplomat that Russia had political “dirt” on Hillary Clinton ahead of the 2016 presidential election.“ 98.110.55.11 (talk) 07:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 07:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Name

Why is his name written in “Hindi”? He’s not from India, his parents aren’t even from India but if anything shouldn’t it be in Gujaraati? 123.203.19.204 (talk) 04:33, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

You'd have to ask him why he does it, and he's not here. We go by what RS say. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

"You'd have to ask him why he does it" - He's Gujarati. Please provide a reliable source that he writes his name in a language his parents, nor he uses.

May as well write it in Urdu and Tamil too otherwise. Until then, it will be removed. 2A02:C7C:9057:EF00:E597:96B1:39C4:BCC8 (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Well, his name in Gujarati is કશ્યપ પ્રમોદ પટેલ (Kashyap Pramod Patel, the middle name is his father's first name, following the Gujarati convention) and his parents are originally from Vadodara, Gujarat. For a while, they were in Uganda. Here is a news Nov 7th, 2024 report from Gujarat (, referring to his possible appointment as the CIA director, which did not happen.

he is threatening media + journalists

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/05/us/politics/trump-kash-patel-journalists.html

(also noticed in Germany: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/trump-verbuendete-patel-und-bannon-drohen-der-freien-presse-19368354.html ) Search'n'write (talk) 19:16, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

What actually is his name?

I'm happy with the title of the article as that is probably how he is best known, but we keep getting different variants including an unsourced birthname. We use his book to identify his religion and his name as author is "Kash Pramod Patel". Doug Weller talk 14:39, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2024

Please, change photo to one that is not an obvious political statement. TruthIsHer (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)  Not done:The photo in the article is literally their official portrait. It's hard to see how using it constitutes a political statement.PianoDan (talk) 23:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2024

This is a very biased account of this person. I personally have never seen a page so biased. As a contributor to Wikipedia I ask that non biased person review this posting. It is so obvious in terms of language that I don't need to provide examples. A non biased human being would understand immediately after reading this. Mdelfeld (talk) 00:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

FWIW, I’m not sure why the article refers to Patel as a government “agent?” An “agent” is the job title of federal investigators, etc… not prosecutors or trial attorneys such as Patel. 47.197.200.81 (talk) 04:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

" investigations into Trump and Russian interference in the 2016 election.[10][8]"

Was Trump interfernce investigated  ? This qoute sound antisemantic since "Trump Interference" is a semantic definition due to election process. Please change this unfortunate semantic. 173.26.116.182 (talk) 00:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Ps i hope tehere is no hiperneed to investigate quantum entanglement.

173.26.116.182 (talk) 00:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Fortunately, antisemantic is not a word. — hako9 (talk) 07:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

“Trump loyalist” part at the beginning…

Thats absolutely crazy to include. All cabinet picks are loyalists, no matter the president.

Whoever added that has zero business editing wiki pages. 74.102.231.68 (talk) 02:51, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree. Where is the phrase "Obama loyalist" in Eric Holder's bio? Holder openly admitted to "having (Obama's) back". 76.135.13.190 (talk) 17:17, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

"being Obama's wingman" 76.135.13.190 (talk) 17:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

The term "Trump loyalist" is being used quite widely in reliable sources. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

It's being inappropriately used in a spiteful manner in most liberal news outlets. Similar to whenever a judge ruled some issue which benefitted Trump, they were referred to as "Trump appointed so-and-so." Judges who ruled in a way which benefitted people who were Democrats were NEVER referred to as "Obama appointed" or "Biden appointed." 70.187.40.175 (talk) 19:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

How a judge ruled, Vs. who appointed them to their seat, are completely unrelated. - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

"Patel has widely been described by news organizations as a "Trump loyalist".[22][8][54]". It's not really "widely" if it's only left-leaning publications that are describing him that way. The three sources are NBC, Axios, Politico. At the very least, saying "widely" has a high potential to mislead people in this context. Benevolent Prawn (talk) 19:32, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

"Reliable"? So, Vox and Salon but not Fox News, right? Fucking leftist hacks. 2601:447:D185:3340:BC3E:22EF:E6F0:DFB0 (talk) 05:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2024 (3) re:lede

The lede needs more & better sources to back up its assertion that Patel is a conspiracy theorist. I've found some here.

The AP: "A trusted aide and swaggering campaign surrogate who mythologizes the former president while promoting conspiracy theories and his own brand..."

From Politico: "Patel, a Trump transition insider, has been one of Trump’s most visible and vocal allies, showing up at his criminal trial in Manhattan, perpetuating conspiracy theories about the 2020 election."

NBC News: "Patel...has earned a reputation as the ultimate Trump loyalist who has spread baseless "deep state" conspiracy theories and called for a purge of perceived Trump enemies from the FBI." Kit kardigan (talk) 09:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Not done... I do not see any mention (or assertion) of him being a conspiracy theorist in the lede? - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

"Conspiracy theorist"

This claim depends on a reference to an Indian news website which is flagged on WP:RSNOI as potentially paid-for. Additionally, the claim is questionable from the start because when you look down the article for how they quantify it being in the byline, it merely states Patel claimed news media helped Biden win the election in 2020.

Quote: Last year, Patel vowed to investigate and “come after” journalists who “lied” and “helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections.”

It's no secret that the media have biases and use these biases to help turn the tides of elections. It's why we have WP:RSPSS and WP:RSNOI in the first place. We see the bias every single time we turn on MSNBC, Fox or CNN and they're talking about something political.

Attempting to do my own research on this, I come across The AP, which made the claim without anything substantive to actually back it up, other than saying he embraces QAnon... but not saying specifically what he embraces or has espoused as supposed facts, be it real, imagined or whatever. [1]https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2024/kash-patel-is-pushing-conspiracies-and-his-brand-hes-poised-to-help-lead-a-trump-administration/

So I turned to AI (Copilot) to try and help. All that said is he made claims of the "deep state" trying to overthrow Trump, which in a sense is verifiably true considering Hillary Clinton paid for the production of the Steele Dossier and has been subsequently fined for as a "campaign finance violation". True, this itself would not qualify, since Clinton was not in any position of power at the time, however the fact this went so far as to cause an impeachment proceeding makes it such. Then there's the Hunter Biden laptop story being outright labelled as Russian Disinfo by everyone with a voice, and the New York Post being banned from Twitter for reporting on it... Again, every government figurehead in the CIA, FBI, DOJ etc. played into it and verifiably, this affected the outcome of the election. As such, you can't outright say that Patel's claim here is a "theory". Questionable at best since he never went further into detail of what he meant specifically.

I asked AI to define "deep-state". Quote:

The term "deep state" refers to a perceived network of people within government agencies, often including intelligence agencies, military, and other bureaucratic institutions, who operate behind the scenes to influence and manipulate governmental policy and actions. This network is believed to act independently of elected officials and may work against the interests of those officials to maintain its own power and agenda."

So does this REALLY make Kash a conspiracy theorist? I'd say no, and unless someone can provide a reliable source which says Kash made some other outlandish, easily-refutable claim such as regarding ballot harvesting or fake ballots during the election, the claim should be scrubbed, or at a minimum should be flagged as potentially not true and needing verification. Conspiracy Theorist these days is becoming such an umbrella term that it may as well not even have any meaning anymore, other than "someone I don't like". 82.117.29.169 (talk) 10:03, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

You are quite correct to calling out the Indian news website, it does appear to be a problematic source. Nevertheless, the source provided are all considered reliable sources. The reference to Patel being a conspiracy theorist should be reinstated and the sources back up that point. Additionally, perhaps you should more of your own reading instead of outsourcing that to an AI, especially one the regurgitates conspiratorial rightwing talking points as fact? Kit kardigan (talk) 10:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Deep state is generally considered to be a conspiracy theory. While there are legitimate discussions about the influence of career bureaucrats and institutional power structures in government, the "deep state" conspiracy theory goes far beyond this to claim there is a coordinated, malevolent shadow government actively working to subvert democratic processes. Cononsense (talk) 20:42, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

What AI says has almost no significance for Wikipedia Article. You have to find Reliable sources to support your point. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 06:34, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

RogerYg, you recently reverted mention of Kash Patel as a conspiracy theorist despite multiple RS describing him as such, alleging a violation of WP:FIRSTSENTENCE. To be clear, nothing in your cited policy would suggest this cannot be included in the first sentence. It is no different than how the page for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. mentions he is a conspiracy theorist in the first sentence. I would ask that you please self-revert. BootsED (talk) 15:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi BootsED (talk).

Firstly, I did not revert your mention, rather I moved it within the LEAD to more appropriate third paragraph. Somebody else has removed your references, and I am against that.

However, adding "conspiracy theorist" in first sentence has multiple issues mainly WP:FIRSTSENTENCE , WP:BLP and WP:NPOV

MOS:LEADSENTENCE

The first sentence should introduce the topic, and tell the nonspecialist reader what or who the subject is, and often when or where. It should be in plain English.

99% of the Wiki articles, especially WP:BLP articles have a neutral factual introduction per WP:LEAD and WP:NPOV

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is an exception, not the rule.

Also per MOS:OPEN

The first paragraph should define or identify the topic with a neutral point of view, but without being too specific.

Therefore, second or third paragraph will be apprpriate to discuss a controversial aspect per WP:BLP such as conspiracy theories.

Also, I followed MOS:LEADCLUTTER

Do not overload the first sentence by describing everything notable about the subject.

Along with all the reasons mentioned, further per WP:BLP and WPNPOV, its a standard practise to avoid controversial aspects in the opening sentence, and WP:BLP rules apply to this article. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 07:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Roger,

There is no BLP issue as long as the topic is presented and backed up with reliable sources. No NPOV issue exists if the topic is presented in a neutral manner, which conspiracy theorist is. Leadsentence does not make any statement that this cannot be included. Conspiracy theorist is non-specific, and passes this test. Many pages for notable conspiracy theorists mention this in the first sentence. With that said, I see someone else has reverted even mentioning the conspiracy theory label on the third paragraph of the lead, so I will add that part back in. BootsED (talk) 15:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Deep State conspiracy theory

In the introduction with reference to his book, I recommend linking "Deep State" to Wiki article on "Deep state in the United States". Troubadix77 (talk) 13:03, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2024 (3)

Patel has NOT been officially appointed as CIA Director. He is NOT Christopher Wray's successor. In2puck32 (talk) 14:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Article says "presumptive nominee", not "officially appointed". - Adolphus79 (talk) 16:03, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

This may or may not be useful, I'm not sure

https://www.deccanherald.com/world/who-is-kash-patel-donald-trumps-pick-for-fbi-director-3298876?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email] Doug Weller talk 15:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request

Please remove the birth date until a reliable source can be found; checked the sources and they do not mention his birth date and the India Abroad source is a dead link. 2600:100C:A218:9A7B:E9C2:3414:AA98:E4BC (talk) 21:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

 Done - none of the citations confirm his date of birth and I couldn't find a reliable source that did (only low quality, recently published sources that likely copied it from this page). This date was added a few years ago without changing the existing citation, which only confirms that he was 40 in 2021. I have reverted this back to just 1980-1981, thanks. Jamedeus (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Slight mistake regarding Florida law license status

Mr. Patel's license did not expire but he instead purposefully elected an inactive status. He is able to become active again at any time and would not need to reapply as an expired member's license would. Source: I am an employee of the Florida Bar, and the elected inactive status can be found on his public Bar profile here: https://www.floridabar.org/directories/find-mbr/profile/?num=21209

Small edit but I believe this is a fair distinction that should be made. Chioccca (talk) 22:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Done. Updated from expired to inactive. Thanks Chioccca (talk). RogerYg (talk) 06:47, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2024

Please remove ", to Indian immigrant parents." from the first sentence of the "Early life and education" section. The very next sentence says that his parents are Indian immigrants, so this clause is redundant. 101.119.144.94 (talk) 02:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Done... - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:53, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

’To succeed’

There’s typo in the opening paragraph folks!!!!! 85.225.175.117 (talk) 06:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. Jamedeus (talk) 07:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2024 (2)

Thank you for tweaking the first sentence of the early-life section. But now there are spacing and punctuation-placement errors:

to Indian Gujarati parents [13], who

Please change it to:

to Indian Gujarati parents,[13] who

Thank you. 101.119.144.94 (talk) 07:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

 Done I just removed the duplicate ref since it was already at the end of the sentence. Jamedeus (talk) 09:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2024 (3)

This sentence is wordy.

Patel has been an active promoter of the Qanon conspiracy theory

Please change it to:

Patel has actively promoted the Qanon conspiracy theory

Thank you. 101.119.144.94 (talk) 07:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

 Done Jamedeus (talk) 09:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2024 (4)

"Truth Social" appears six times: five in the "Political views" section and one in the following section on documents. However, its only link is the last one. Please de-link it there and add a link in the first appearance, in the phrase "On Truth Social, Patel promoted". 101.119.144.94 (talk) 07:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

 Done Jamedeus (talk) 09:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Name in Lead

Most WP:RS sources have name as Kashyap "Kash" Patel. We do not have WP:RS sources cited for Kashyap Pramod Vinod Patel, therefore it should not be in the lead. Probably, it may be used in the Early life section, but LEAD content requires higher Reliability standards than the article body, which can provide details from multiple supplementary sources. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 06:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 06:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Third paragraph of the lede

The information presented here can easily be attached the to the end of the preceding paragraph. Furthermore, I think that the third paragraph should focus on Patel's threats to jail and prosecute journalists as well as enemies of Donald Trump, which is attested to elsewhere in the article with reliable sources (see in particular the "Post-government activities" section). Frankly, this is one of the most notable things about him, as a director with such goals would be unprecedented in the post-Hoover FBI. Curious to know everyone's thoughts on this. Kit kardigan (talk) 06:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Kash Patel is not FBI Director nor a nominee!

Patel cannot be titled FBI Director until 1)there is a vacancy in the FBI Directorship.(There isn't one and the current FBI Director has at least two years left in his term.)and 2) if a vacancy is created by a U.S.president by firing/termination, the nominee must be confirmed by the U.S. Senate. This entry is so utterly speculative that Wikipedia loses all credibility by allowing it.If you're a fan of Patel, then great, find a nice forum to talk about how much you love him and hope he'll be FBI director one day. No money will be donated to Wikipedia by me or others if it allows such utter speculation to be treated as fact. 2600:1700:190:5C30:DD32:5ED7:7AA2:7BA (talk) 16:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)