Talk:Rosemary Conley

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List of author's works

I have added a list of this author's published books but it keeps being removed by an editor saying the list is excessive. The author has written 37 books. This is a fact and of interest to anone researching her career. Jamie Oliver and other authors have similar length lists of books. Does anyone have an opinion on why this list should/should not be published?

Leicschauffeur (talk) 11:47, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Oliver is well known and his books are popular and there are references which mention them on his article. Rosemary Conley has written many fad diet books, many of them not best sellers or well known. A "selected publications" may be suitable but adding every book Conley has ever written is excessive. Psychologist Guy (talk) 14:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Detailed bibliographies are never considered excessive. The contents of Conley's published life's work should be irrelevant. If she was an author of fiction, such a discussion would be moot. No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is Rosemary Conley your other account? You appear to have made many of the same edits. Psychologist Guy (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A long list of books is considered promotional. An encyclopedia article is a summary, not an exhaustive biography and a complete list of publications is excessive. 14:45, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I think the principle is to make Wikipedia's treatment align with respectable sources. For established authors amenable to bibliographic treatment in RS (e.g. J. D. Salinger) it is of course right to have a list of works. For writers for which RS does not ever afford bibliographic treatment, it would be odd. A compromise is to have a section for "Selected" works and list those which get good coverage in RS. Alexbrn (talk) 14:52, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is/are RS please? 2A02:C7F:407C:3900:41A2:E826:DAAC:FB70 (talk) 17:11, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

see WP:RS MB 17:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. Leicschauffeur (talk) 17:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] sadly you have not listened. You are adding primary sources. You need reliable secondary sources. I am not opposed to the occasional primary source, but adding 18 links to Conley's own books is not appropriate. Psychologist Guy (talk) 18:20, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So help me out here... If nobody has written a book about the subject that you can quote from how is anything supposed to get published on Wikipedia? Is it merely a place for gathering together a collection of snippets from elsewhere?Leicschauffeur (talk) 08:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's meant to be a summary of accepted knowledge. A Wikipedia article should give a reader a good idea of how a judicious selection of (good) sources are analysing & discussing a topic. Alexbrn (talk) 11:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]