Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Financial life management

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The result was merge to Wealth management. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 11:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Financial life management

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Judging by sources, this is a phrase which is only used by United Capital as branding. The actual distinction between this and wealth management isn't clear, and the article basically admits it was developed as a way to make wealth management sound more appealing. Grayfell (talk) 21:58, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 18:52, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NEO and WP:NOTWEBHOST. This appears to be one company's branding. Bearian (talk) 23:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I'm not sure it's just a United Capital term, though they do look like the most widely associated entity with it due to a recent rebranding? But looks like other firms do practice/offer financial life management services including these ones Telemus, Sheehan, Financial Life Management Inc., and even Vista Wealth which also offers wealth management, so they are seemingly different topics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.50.202.95 (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2015‎

I stand corrected, but those sources are very, very flimsy regarding what the term actually means. The more I look at this, the less I understand what the difference is, if there is one. Financial Life Management requires a disciplined approach that integrates a broad array of solutions. Sounds impressive, but that doesn't actually mean very much. Financial Life Management is unique in that its goal is to help you achieve your heart's wishes, not just your financial goals. Wow! That's a hell of claim to make. What are they actually doing different, here? I'm seeing a lot of cringe-inducing cliches and platitudes, but no content.

Financiallifemgmt.com is a tiny company which doesn't seem to have a strong connection to the term as defined by the article. It's not usable as a source, but if it were it would only further dilute the meaning of the term. Grayfell (talk) 21:54, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:02, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I see what you mean. I believe the difference is being stressed as that financial life management focuses on quality of life and trade-off's, while wealth management is purely numbers based. Here is a company that sells training/seminars on financial topics including this one. And apparently BOA is moving towards this distinction too, see here. I've seen other examples of closely related terms/concepts on Wiki articles like Money management versus Investment management. Maybe it's splitting hairs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.50.202.95 (talk) 18:54, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Those are, again, interesting sources that don't fully address my concern. While it's clear to me now that there is a concept used in marketing that could be labeled this, I still don't understand what the supposed functional difference is as supported by sources. The BoA press release is bad statistics: 83 percent of companies feel a sense of responsibility for the financial wellness of their employees? No reliable study would ask such leading questions and expect meaningful results. This is part of a trend that's been going on for a while towards 'financial wellness' (hopefully the worst buzzword I have to type today) but the sources are infuriatingly vague about it. Let's go with a Sliding Doors scenario: In one universe I go to a wealth manager, in the other I go to a financial life manager. Both are presumably asking me what my goals are, and are helping me make financial choices, so what's the actually difference? How does my life differ in these two universes? This seems like a very repetitive movie, and the distinction is more about attitude than about action. If that's the case, this is just self-indulgent nonsense, or at best it's worth a paragraph in another article.

As for money management and investment management, both of those are redundant and under-sourced, and I would support merging them together, but since I'm not going to tackle that task right now, that can be shelved under WP:OTHERSTUFF. Financial articles on Wikipedia are already prone to WP:NOTESSAY and covert advertising. Deleting this article would work against that, but it's a drop in the bucket, unfortunately. Grayfell (talk) 21:40, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:12, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete / Selective Merge to Wealth management. It may primarily be the work of one company, but regardless, it's just a variation of Wealth management (even the source it cites in the lead is about "redefin[ing] 'wealth management'"). Might be worth mentioning there if sources justify it, but doesn't merit a stand-alone article. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:08, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Wealth management. Subject isn't discussed on a corresponding page enough to warrant a separate article. There's potentially a little info here that could be carried over in a section to Wealth management, but certainly most of this can go. Jppcap (talk) 22:58, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Selective merge to wealth management per others. Citobun (talk) 07:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.