There's Three Ways The DCU Can Avoid Batman Fatigue

There's Three Ways The DCU Can Avoid Batman Fatigue

With Batman having at least four movies or series released about him or his side characters in the next few years, Batman fatigue may start to become a problem.

Editorial Opinion
By ChandlerMcniel - Dec 14, 2024 10:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman

Today, I wrote an article questioning why Clayface is getting his own DCU adaptation before The Brave and the Bold even has a release date set which you can read here. My train of thought led me to the idea that James Gunn and Peter Safran might be concerned that general audiences could suffer from Batman fatigue, something similar to superhero fatigue as a whole, but specifically felt towards Batman. If there are two different versions of Batman on screen in two separate universes, general audiences may become tired of the character. I know I won’t, but I do not represent the general audience. Since I wrote that article, I’ve been wondering how this potential problem could be avoided and I’ve come up with three different solutions.

The DCU’s Batman needs to be different from those that came before it. We have already seen many unique versions of Batman that represent different parts of his history and diverse storytelling. Starting with the 1989 movie Batman and continuing through the nineties, we saw a Batman that had a comic book like combination of seriousness and silliness. Let’s ignore Batman and Robin and move on to the 2000s with Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises. This version of Batman was very grounded, realistic, and gritty. In 2016, we were shown a Batman in the wake of The Dark Knight Returns in Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice. Despite your feelings about that movie, it’s safe to say the warehouse scene gave us one of the best Batman action sequences ever filmed, if not the best. That version of Batman continued in Zack Snyder’s Justice League, then was replaced by The Batman. Pattinson’s Batman is the dark, demented, detective version of the character we hadn’t seen before. Ultimately, there’s really only three ways the DCU’s Batman can be different from the rest. 

A Batman Who Isn’t Alone

Luckily, we already know this is happening, so I won't spend a ton of time here. The Brave and the Bold will feature not only Batman, but his son, Damian Wayne taking the mantle of Robin. The existence of Damian Wayne as Robin implies the existence of Dick, Jason, and Tim as well. Coincidentally, Gunn has confirmed an animated project about the first two Robins, called Dynamic Duo, which I’m very excited for. Giving Batman his entire Batfamily can differentiate the character from the version that came before it as well as from Robert Pattinson’s Batman. His Batman is entirely alone unless you count Catwoman or Commissioner Gordon. The Batfamily definitely changes the character of Batman to a degree unlike anything we’ve seen in live action before. 

The High Tech Ninja

I have been wanting to see this version of Batman on the big screen forever. In The Dark Knight Trilogy, we saw a bit of this, but it was so grounded and based in reality that it’s difficult to say that Batman really fit into this category. Yes, he was indeed literally trained by ninjas, and, yes, he did have some pretty high tech gear like the Tumbler and the Bat, but I want a movie to dive into it even more. I want to see a Batman that fights like a character from John Wick: quick, snappy movements that hit hard. Craft a Batman in his prime that can take down a doze goons without taking a single hit. Give Batman an arsenal of batarangs that do all sorts of ridiculous things, give him gauntlets that are hacking devices, tasers, and an explosive launcher all in one, give him a handheld welder, give him a voice synthesizer, and for the love of God give the man detective vision! The Dark Knight gave Batman detective vision very briefly, then immediately did away with it. A Batman that is both a ninja and a genius scientist with billions of dollars at his disposal is an opportunity studios have missed.

Merge The Batman With the DCU

This is my least favorite out of the three ways to avoid Batman fatigue, but it certainly would work. There’s been a bit of speculation that Gunn has convinced Reeves to merge his Batman Epic Crime Saga with the DCU which would just be a shame. The universe works so well on its own. Unless Gunn is going to hand Reeves his job as overseer of the DCU, something I would be on board for, I think The Batman should stay standalone. I just can’t see Pattinson’s Batman staring down the likes of Vandal Savage, Mongul, or Darkseid with a Justice League of super powered individuals. I feel like Reeves’ Batman would be entirely out of his depth. It is possible that Pattinson’s Batman could have some serious character development and become someone who could work with a group, maybe even eventually turn into that high tech ninja style Batman, but I don’t see it. On top of that, it would require scrapping plans for Dynamic Duo which was just barely announced.

How do you think DC Studios can avoid Batman fatigue or do you think it won’t even be an issue? Let me know!

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Forthas
Forthas - 12/14/2024, 10:20 PM
It seems as though Max has released the first episode of Creature Commando on YouTube!?!?

McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/15/2024, 1:26 AM
@Forthas - and peep the comments. Literally unanimous praise and upvoting. Try harder!
Forthas
Forthas - 12/15/2024, 1:52 AM
@McMurdo - I know you want to respond to everything I write with a defence of the show and/or James Gunn but in this case I was surprised to see it had been released and I simply shared it.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/15/2024, 4:19 AM
@Forthas - these Gunn nut gobblers are over sensitive 😅.

I wonder why they released it to YouTube, they also haven't revealed the streaming numbers 🤔 unless I missed it somewhere.
Forthas
Forthas - 12/14/2024, 10:22 PM
Warner Brothers has CAUSED Batman faitgue with the constant reboots even to the point of having three versions of Batman appear in the Flash.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/14/2024, 11:36 PM
@Forthas - lolz

Batman fatigue was never a thing even in the past with btas, justice league, batman beyond, keaton, kilmer, clooney

This is nothingburger
Earleverlasting
Earleverlasting - 12/15/2024, 2:00 AM
@vectorsigma - You are sure on a lot of drugs
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/15/2024, 4:23 AM
@vectorsigma - eh? Btas & JLU are the same Batman.

Batman beyond is a different Batman that came after the animated series and the live action batmen all came 1 after the other lol

Tf point are you trying to make 😅
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 12/14/2024, 10:25 PM
Threeway? Batman?...ok put Cornelius Stirk there and im.in
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 12/14/2024, 10:31 PM
They can avoid Batman fatigue by actually adapting the Bat Family. Titans is the only project to come close to that. The execution may not have been that good, but I admire the effort.
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 12/14/2024, 10:35 PM
Is this a new variant of josh's personality?
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 12/14/2024, 10:37 PM
@Gabimaru - my thoughts exactly.
ChandlerMcniel
ChandlerMcniel - 12/14/2024, 10:53 PM
@Gabimaru - Lots of people keep wondering that. I'm me, not Josh. Feel free to check out my Instagram @chandler.the.writer or my book, With Infinite Power, on Amazon.
TK420
TK420 - 12/14/2024, 11:00 PM
@Gabimaru - the "Wildlings".
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 12/14/2024, 11:20 PM
@Gabimaru - and whatif it is? , the more the Wild, the more the Dick
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/15/2024, 12:57 AM
@Gabimaru - @natebest 😇
Forthas
Forthas - 12/14/2024, 10:37 PM
"...but it was so grounded and based in reality that it’s difficult to say that Batman really fit into this category."

Two points...

1) The fact that it was grounded and based in reality is WHY it appealed to comic book fans and the general audience. When it is dumbed down like what happened with Batman V Superman and Batman ceases to be a human being based on the feats he was able to perform in the film, it stops becoming relatable and descends into ridiculousness. This is why so many respected Hollywood directors and actors have derided the genre because of its embrace of stupidity. In fact the two versions of Batman that have had the most critical and commercial success are the two grounded ones (the Dark Knight Trilogy and The Batman).

2) While many decry the fact the Dark Knight Trilogy was grounded in fact the three films had their fair share of fantastic elements. From a toxin that made people experience their fears, a device that could summon Bats, a miniature tank that could propel itself over rooftops, or eye lenses that could read sonar signals, the films delved very much into science fiction yet are still grounded. Grounded DOES NOT mean that fantastic people or events cannot exist, it means it must adhere to our common knowledge of the known world and may credibly stretch that system of beliefs. We live in a world where science tells us it is unlikely there are no aliens outside of our world...so a Superman is possible. Those things can co-exist. it just takes people smarter that James Gunn and Zack Snyder to make something fantastic relatable.
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 12/14/2024, 10:51 PM
Batman, Poison Ivy and Catwoman.
There’s your three way.

CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 12/14/2024, 10:52 PM
Wait
I miss read the title article. Please ignore first comment
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/15/2024, 4:26 AM
@CAPTAINPINKEYE - 😅😭💦
TK420
TK420 - 12/14/2024, 11:01 PM
With enough prep time, surely it can be avoided...
MrDandy
MrDandy - 12/14/2024, 11:18 PM
#1- don’t put Batman in everything.

#2- There is no #2
kirbyfan
kirbyfan - 12/14/2024, 11:28 PM
Don't need three, one will do.
Explore other characters, it's still a sin and a shame DC/WB haven't brought the COSMIC EPIC TALE of the NEW GODS to the Big Screen!
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 12/14/2024, 11:39 PM
Bring in The Designer.
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 12/15/2024, 12:15 AM
If they were to bring Pattinson into the DCU, I think the best way to do it, is to go the variant route. I wouldn't hate it. Especially with Matt Reeves being such a slow developer. I could see Pattinson wanting to do more with the character.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/15/2024, 12:59 AM
no one states the obvious better than our good friend Chandler.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 12/15/2024, 1:01 AM
Since when has there been speculation that Gunn wants Reeves Batman to be the DCU Batman? All I’ve heard is the opposite, that Gunn and reaffirmed on several occasions that Reeves thing is own it’s own and his DCU Batman will definitely not be Pattinson
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 12/15/2024, 4:01 AM
BatFam BatFam BatFam ... that's all you have to do.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 12/15/2024, 5:51 AM
@NateBest - sorry, I know this probably isn't the way to ask but honestly I'm not sure how to message you. Do we still have a fan fiction writing section here where we can post our fan writings and such? I remember when I first came here decades ago we had a section where people regularly contributed their own writing materials, and lately I've been feeling the itch again to write and possibly share some of my ideas online.

I wasn't sure if we still have that section.

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