Ellywa

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Note about my deletions

If you think I made a wrong decision about deletion of a file, please think about your motivation and ask for undeletion on COM:UNDELETE. Another admin will decide on the matter. It is appreciated if you ping me, so I can get new insights. Thanks Ellywa (talk) 15:59, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Woltersdorf-Gut & Springeberg.png

I removed the coat of arms from the disputed article, because the use of this non-official COA was original research. Now the file is no longer in use. Many other coats of arms of this kind (invented from a club in Woltersdorf for self-promotion ore something like that) have already been deleted. Few are left, but all are out of scope. This one should still be deleted, too. GerritR (talk) 12:44, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@GerritR: , Thanks, let us wait a little while, I will reopen the DR of File:Woltersdorf-Gut & Springeberg.png. Ellywa Ellywa (talk) 13:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Museumsinsel subway station in Berlin

Hello! I have a question regarding a somewhat older deletion decision on your part. It's about the Museumsninsel subway station in Berlin. There I suggested the images be deleted due to the lack of freedom of panorama; Pictures showing the blue ceiling, a work of art by the architect Max Dudler. In October last year you decided to delete the images. This was consistent because, at the same time, images that clearly showed a work of art were deleted in many German subway stations. Unfortunately, as is often the case, new images are uploaded later, often without any malicious intent. Nevertheless, you have to check such categories from time to time. This was also the case with the subway station, which received new pictures in 2024; Images that once again clearly showed the blue ceiling. There you decided against deletion. I can't understand what's different about these pictures than the pictures that have already been deleted. Could you please explain this to me. Thanks! Lukas Beck (talk) 11:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @L. Beck, can you show me the links to the deletion request pages please? Then I will look at those images and reasons. Thanks, Ellywa (talk) 16:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure! https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:U-Bahnhof_Museumsinsel. Thanks Lukas Beck (talk) 19:15, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks L. Beck, you are completely right, these images indeed are not different from the first deleted batch. I overlooked the earlier discussion and revised my decision. Ellywa (talk) 07:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your time. Kind regards Lukas Beck (talk) 09:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

File:Faye bezemer-1531129229.jpeg

File:Faye bezemer-1531129229.jpeg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Kedvesem2912 (talk) 22:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Sintegrity

You come out of the blue, unilaterally revert a DR discussed and closed almost 1 year before, delete many dozens of valuable files from the MTur Destinos Flickr feed writing there that "there is no evidence whatsoever that the flickr uploader had permission to publish these files of these different photographers", when the evidence exists, yes, and was presented during the DR discussion? Why have you done that?! It seems you didn't even care reading the discussion which preceded the decision to keep the files. Darwin ^Ahoy! 00:21, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

@DarwIn,

A simple question in the first place. Why are you asking such suggestive questions in an unpleasant way? Of course I care. I will answer in this case, but please be more kind in future,. I - and others as well - are sensitive to the tone of text.

My second question: Can you imagine somebody - in this case a colleague admin - is making a mistake? There were 5 deletion requests listed on a single page, Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Sintegrity, so I think I indeed made a mistake. The rationale on my conclusion indicates it was a mistake.

However, looking into the files of the 2nd deletion request, I note some conflicting stuff in the licensing. Perhaps the MTur - Ministry of Tourism, obtained permission of all photographers to release the photos in PD. However, when they are stating a "Mandatory credit" (In Portuguese "Crédito obrigatório") with the name of the photographer I wonder whether this is compatible with the PD definition used on Commons. This is a receipe for mistakes of re-users of the files. And I experienced as a reuser this can lead to severe problems, e.g. fines of a high amount. Perhaps the uploader Sintegrity has some thoughts about this. Some examples of this credit line on the Flickr photos:

• https://flickr.com/photos/163189519@N03/40825481592
• https://www.flickr.com/photos/mturdestinos/26999106938/

My proposal would be to discuss this in an undeletion request. If you agree, I will start the procedure. Kind regards, Ellywa (talk) 09:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

@Ellywa I was shocked that such an huge amount of files, some/many of them certainly in use, went down the hole in such an apparently reckless way, so it's natural that I was a bit confrontative, specially when you reverted that closed DR out of the blue. If you've done a mistake, I don't think the proper path is to force the mistake and force others to pass for more bureaucracy to revert at least part of the damage you have unwillingly done. I think the appropriate action would be to restore them all, and then reopen the DR if you feel it's appropriate. As for the credit, it's indeed mandatory under Brazilian law, even in the case of Public Domain. It's the general Brazilian (and Portuguese) copyright law, attribution is mandatory and never expires. This applies to all files under the law of these countries, not just to MTur feed, and it's what we call a reuse issue, not a Commons issue, like trademarks, moral rights and whatelse. Darwin ^Ahoy! 14:03, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

If you don't plan to do anything about this huge mess you have done, at least can you confirm you will not get in the way if others start fixing it, restoring the hundreds of files you deleted by mistake there? Darwin ^Ahoy! 12:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

I am trying to find out how to restore, using some tool, but did not manage yet. Please feel free if you are aware of an efficient method. Ellywa (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Ellywa there is not, AFAIK, that's why I was so flabbergasted by the sheer amount of files deleted, as such actions are very painful and tiresome to revert. I certainly understand you making a mistake, especially in such a combo of DRs.. I apologize venting my frustration with that ungentle and blunt approach, but please, next time try to make a mistake more easy to fix.😅 Have a nice end of week and a better weekend. :) Darwin ^Ahoy! 23:46, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@DarwIn, I received a suggestion from somebody to use Help:Gadget-Restore-a-lot, but I do not manage to get it running. I will start undeleting; I saw you started from the top, so I will start from the bottom of the list. Thanks for you good whishes, same to you. Regards, Ellywa (talk) 08:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)