Commons:Deletion requests/File:Qaumi Tarana Instrumental.ogg
The hymn itself might be in the Public Domain, but the artist's (the band's) interpretation is copyrighted. We would need permission of the band to keep this. The file also lacks recorder's permission. ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 00:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Here is the link for the file itself.[1].Yousaf465 (talk) Permission has been requested so wait until reply.~~
How is it copyrighted when it isn't a different interpretation? Are you suggesting the permission should be sought from the man who created the original version? Could you also cite the references that lists requirements for the recorder's permission? Thank you. --76.106.50.122 03:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Pakistani copyright law:
20. (2) In the case of a record, copyright shall subsist until fifty years from the beginning of the calendar year next following the year in which the record is published.
22. (1) Copyright in a Government work shall, where Government is the first owner of the copyright therein, subsist until fifty years from the beginning of the calendar year next following the year in which the work is first published.
This only became the national anthem in 1954, which could cause Uruguay Roundtable agreement problems, but it's a reasonable assumption to presume that it's freely-licenced as a national anthem. However, the recording - which gains its own copyright - would need to have been made by 1958 for it to be out of copyright, and could itself run into Uruguayan roundtable agreement problems when it comes to the U.S. (where Wikipedia is hosted). Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Even if the recording has copyrights, (which I believe it is not) it is permitted to be used in accordance to the Fair use law permitted by the constitution of USA. The doctrine in United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as use for scholarship or review. It provides for the legal, non-licensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author's work under a four-factor balancing test. Therefore, any argument being presented against the widely used and available anthem is invalid. I welcome your counter arguments. Faraz01 (talk) 20:25, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Fair-use images and files are not allowed to be hosted on Commons. On those wikis that do allow their use, they are limited to a small clip of the song. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- I completely understand your concern but the sound in question is a national anthem of a country and it is highly likely that it was performed by the Pakistani military band or the US Navy band as it was available for download a while ago on the link provided along with the file. In order to resolve the dispute over the copyrights of the recording, I propose to replace this media file with the recording performed by US Navy band which falls under public domain. [2] Faraz01 (talk) 21:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- This means we have a Public Domain song and a Public Domain performance, but what about the recording? We will still need the recorder's permission. Regards, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 22:13, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- I completely understand your concern but the sound in question is a national anthem of a country and it is highly likely that it was performed by the Pakistani military band or the US Navy band as it was available for download a while ago on the link provided along with the file. In order to resolve the dispute over the copyrights of the recording, I propose to replace this media file with the recording performed by US Navy band which falls under public domain. [2] Faraz01 (talk) 21:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Fair-use images and files are not allowed to be hosted on Commons. On those wikis that do allow their use, they are limited to a small clip of the song. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:45, 29 March 2009 (UTC)