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Started the above section and [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Morocco_CIA_map.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=521304288 removed a deletion tag] without notification or sufficient basis. — <span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small><sub> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</sub></small> 15:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC) |
Started the above section and [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Morocco_CIA_map.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=521304288 removed a deletion tag] without notification or sufficient basis. — <span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small><sub> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</sub></small> 15:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:He has also explicitly stated that he will not follow consensus (i.e. if a file is deleted, he will just reupload it anyway). This merits a stern talking to at least. (Thanks, [[User:M.Bitton]].) —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:55, 27 December 2020 (UTC) |
:He has also explicitly stated that he will not follow consensus (i.e. if a file is deleted, he will just reupload it anyway). This merits a stern talking to at least. (Thanks, [[User:M.Bitton]].) —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:55, 27 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:: It might also be a good idea to review the files uploaded by [[User:EdDakhla|EdDakhla]]. F.ex one of the files mentioned by [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]], [[:File:Morocco Topography. |
:: It might also be a good idea to review the files uploaded by [[User:EdDakhla|EdDakhla]]. F.ex one of the files mentioned by [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]], [[:File:Morocco Topography.svg]] is clearly not ''own work'' and is presumably derivative work of [[:File:Morocco Topography.png]]? Same goes for f.ex [[:File:Morocco Satellite View.png]] which is unnlikely to be "own work". I haven't done any further review than a quick cursory glance through his uploads, so there may be more. [[User:TommyG|TommyG]] ([[User talk:TommyG|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:52, 27 December 2020 (UTC) |
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The images uploaded Taiwanese users that involves 2D art work may cause new problem on the FOP-Taiwan policy
I have discussed this with Clindberg before coming here. Mostly of Taiwanese users has such problem with images that involves 2D art work. They don't understand what FOP is and they might never even heard about it. If all images of 2D art work should be deleted per the policy on FOP, it would be a widespread disaster to all of Taiwanese users. Because there may be some serious issues with "Not OK for 2D art works on FOP" that are causing Taiwanese users feel complaining about our reason for deletion is unreasonable, even hostile to us. For example, Reke come to my talk page and denounce me as "毀人心血 (which it mean my actions are destroying that Taiwanese users' hard-won photos photographed by themselves)". The weird thing is that I saw many people have done this before and nothing happened. Now I have stopped to submit the photo in order to avoid continuing conflict with Reke. In fact, I realized this problem last year and discussed with Wcam, but he never respond. I must clarify that I did not vandalism anything, nor made any destructive edits. I submitted the photo to COM:DR per the FOP-Taiwan policy. If my actions are as Reke said, it is that I evading the responsibility. Otherwise, I suggest discussing how to modify the policy so that we can effectively prevent others from making the same mistakes as me. The problem is now that Article 58 of the Taiwanese Copyright Act is not clear enough:
- Outdoor painting like outdoor wall, temple door, entrance sign, Paifang (one type of Chinese gate), etc, are all public spaces possible?
- Indoor painting like temple ceiling, temple indoor wall, MRT station indoor wall, floor of the railway station hall, etc, are all public spaces possible?
- Are there other situations that need further discussion such as vehicles, museums, offices (including government agency), advertising, etc?
Besides that, I don't see an any clear answer from previous discussions. I have put all the questions I thinking the above. Can someone help me to modify the FOP-Taiwan policy so that we can keep photos for more people?--Kai3952 (talk) 12:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- If this problem is solved then my previous question will be solved as well. Not only that, I can start new work: Create new category and organize existing media such as "Category:Temple doors in Taiwan" and "Category:Temple paintings in Taiwan". Because "Men Shen" is one of the most common deities in Taiwan and is often shown in paintings on the temple door. On the contrary, if the problem is not resolved or no-one discusses it, then it implies that all of images that involves 2D art works should be delete.--Kai3952 (talk) 17:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Android 1123581321 block evasion
Android 1410203556. Please block ASAP. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 15:43, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Nvm, user was glocked.--HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 21:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Report block evasion of Payalsingh1 / Khojinindia (2)
Navneetsinghc (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log)
User is a sock of Payalsingh1. See CA--CrystallineLeMonde (talk) 15:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Blocked by Elcobbola and globally locked by Tks4Fish. -- CptViraj (talk) 18:42, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Possible copyvio
Hello. There are some contributions I believe to be mostly copyvio: Special:Contributions/Gewgwegweggre. Could anybody check it? Thanks in advance.--Brunei (talk) 16:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've deleted a few, and nominated the rest for deletion. Didn't block as the user hasn't been active on any wikis since May. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:14, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Girls wearing socks.
Could somebody take a look at File:A girl wearing socks; September 2014 (06).jpg, which aside from being soft-core porn is also link-spam (see the "Image title" field of the Matadata). There's a whole bunch of files with similar names that have similar link spam. RoySmith (talk) 23:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Blatant advertising and fails COM:PACKAGING. Nominated for deletion. Should be {{Copyvio}} but I'm tired. Rodhullandemu (talk) 23:34, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Nuked em all. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:55, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
This is ... weird. 10 days ago User:Bossanoven added Category:People excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church to Category:Tina Fey.[1] Tina Fey is an American actress, and her EN Wikipedia article doesn't say anything about her being excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church, it doesn't even say that she is Catholic. So I decided I would ask Bossanoven about this on their talk page: User_talk:Bossanoven#Tina_Fey_excommunicated?. After not getting any response for 24 hours, I reverted. Today, still without any response on their talk page, Bossanoven again added that category to Tina Fey. In addition, they added this category to Category:Barry Bonds, an American baseball player whose EN article again doesn't mention this, and isn't even clear that he is Catholic (though at least it says he got his marriage annulled by the church, so he may be), and to Category:Steven Spielberg; from his article, American film director Steven Spielberg is almost certainly not Catholic, having been brought up Jewish before becoming less religious. I said as much on Bossanoven's talk page, reverted all three. Bossanoven again didn't say anything, but again added all three. (Then there is that Bossanoven added Category:Jewish people to a picture of Juanita Spinelli, whose article again doesn't say she was Jewish, that may or may not be related.[2]) Time for an admin to come in and settle the matter. Help! --GRuban (talk) 02:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Between this bizarre edit warring and the continual uploading of copyvios, I'm inclined to block if they don't agree to stop. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:16, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, don't quite understand - should I revert all those edits yet again, and you will do something if they revert again? Back on EN Wikipedia, administrators would try to avoid that kind of edit war. Or are you going to do something right now? --GRuban (talk)
- @GRuban: I reverted them for you and warned the user. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:20, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Bossanoven: Exactly whom at the Catholic Church should we contact to verify these excommunications, and how may we reach them? Where are they documented? How did you find out about them? — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 21:13, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- @GRuban: I reverted them for you and warned the user. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:20, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: They continue edit warring, and doubled down with a personal attack in this edit. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 21:18, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, don't quite understand - should I revert all those edits yet again, and you will do something if they revert again? Back on EN Wikipedia, administrators would try to avoid that kind of edit war. Or are you going to do something right now? --GRuban (talk)
- The user has stated on the talk pages of the above users they will stop edit warring. However, I would personally like to block the user based on this edit summary alone. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 23:06, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 01:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- I have blocked them for one month based on that absolutely unacceptable comment. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
I posted a petition about undeletion of File:Carlos Garcia y Garcia.jpg, and @Nat: answered in opposition, the argument was:
- Peru's Copyright Law (Legislative Decree No. 822) of 1996, works of the government
I read it and I noticed that works of the government is based on Law 13714 from 1961 which was repealed by Legislative Decree No. 822 in 1996. The current text (Legislative Decree No. 822 ) doesn't say anything about what is written in works of the government.
I posted that explanation in the project page discussion COM:Peru and undeletion of File:Carlos Garcia y Garcia.jpg, then I made corrections on COM:Peru pointing that Law 13714 was repealed and deleted the text which was based on it because it is not currently valid.
However, @Nat: reverted my changes without typing anything in the proper discussion page of COM:Peru. @Nat: wrote in undeletion of File:Carlos Garcia y Garcia.jpg, "that there is no confusion", but @Nat: didn't write any argument. @Nat: just accused me that my changes "suits my needs".
So, I declined my request undeletion so that I am not misunderstood. But, firmly persisted to validate my changes on COM:Peru. However, @Thuresson: protected COM:Peru, I guess that @Nat: ask to do it.
My request undeletion of File:Carlos Garcia y Garcia.jpg was closed (Not done) by @Nat: . Additionally, @Nat: wrote that COM:Peru should not be altered unless there is a change in legislation or a clear and explicit legal opinion by Peru's Copyright Office (INDECOPI) on copyright status of government works.
However, as I stated in the discussion page of COM:Peru, the government webpage of INDECOPI lists the laws that are in force, among them the Law 13714 is not found, with this it is clear that INDECOPI has ruled that it does not recognize its validity.
There is a problem because I pointed out my position about the errors in COM:Peru and correct it, but @Nat: revert it without any argument, abusing his/her position. I ask here if there is any punishment for it.
I consider that is not convenient that foreigners make inferences and conclusions about Peruvian laws, thus generating confusion. If something about Peruvian law needs to be discussed, it would be advisable to be done among the Peruvians.
Jjrt (talk) 05:35, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- The page Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Peru has been protected from editing for 24 hours. I see no no reason to remove this now. Peruvian citizens as well as anybody else can discuss future edits at the talk page. Thuresson (talk) 09:18, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js behaves weirdly
After changing existing category (or adding sorting key to it, to be more precise), gadget displays additional buttons (highlighted): Category (++) (++): Russian pronunciation (−) (±) (↓) (↑) (−) (±) (↓) (↑)(+)(+). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:02, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
History split
Please can someone split the history of File:Heritage Engine at Valsad.jpg in order to rescue the over-written image? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:22, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Ancient Greek Main Page
Hello! I created the main page for the ancient greek language at Κυρία Δέλτος. Could you please add Ancient Greek (Ἑλληνική) to the Template:Lang-mp after galego and before ગુજરાતી? PastelKos (talk) 16:43, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support, with COM:FILTERT#Report by PastelKos as background. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 16:56, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- Done, please use {{Edit request}} from next time. Thanks! -- CptViraj (talk) 18:32, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Name of Ancient Greek
Hello! I am really sorry for bothering you again. I don't know where to post this so excuse me if this is not the appropriate place, but why is Ancient Greek rendered as "Ἀρχαία Ἑλληνική"; Ἀρχαία means ancient and it doesn't make sence for the Ancient Greeks to call their language ancient. It would be like if Old English was rendered as Eald Ænglisc instead of Ænglisc. It should be changed just to Ἑλληνική. The rough breathing diacritic and the different suffix is enough to distinguish it from Ελληνικά. Again, sorry if this isn't the appropriate space to post this complain. PastelKos (talk) 20:08, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Persistent border changing (edit warring), even after source provided
Hi, I'd like to report that User:M.Bitton is constantly reverting an edit for this file, (map regarding CIA flights), even after I provided a reliable source from the CIA itself. Please let him know that his reverts are destructive and that Commons and other Wiki pages are about facts/neutral positions, not baseless POV's. Thanks - EdDakhla (talk)
- Not done I see only two reverts, one of which was after you posted here. Please attempt to resolve disputes on talk pages before you ask for administrator intervention. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
As you can see, he was the one actually threatening admin intervention (in one of the revert descriptions), unwilling to resolve this thru a talk page but rather get an admin he frequently relies on (Christian Ferrer I believe) to defile maps of Morocco/Western Sahara and potentially get me blocked. I have a sourced change with a reliable source, there's no reason for him to go and revert it just because his POV didn't like it. He will go to his favorite admin Christian Ferrer, who's views regarding this dispute are parallel to his, to antagonize me like I'm the one who's being disruptive and started an edit war. I know he will accuse me for editing based on my "baseless POV" but the fact is if I wanted to, then I would have just changed the many maps of Morocco that cut Western Sahara to include it, but I will not do that because that would be a violation of Common's terms and guidelines. So the change I made to the file regarding the CIA has nothing to do with my POV but the CIA itself. I respectfully ask again, please do something about this editor's disruptive reverting and additionally review his contributions to get an idea of exactly what I am talking about. Thanks - EdDakhla (talk)
- 1. You are supposed to notify the concerned editors, especially when casting aspersions on them. I will do that for you and ping Christian Ferrer.
- 2. I have a very good reason reason for reverting your upload, which is explained in details in COM:OVERWRITE. The image in question, which has been stable for the past 4 years, is about an event that took place years ago and is based on a 2008 source, therefore, there is no valid reason for you to change it, let alone engage in an upload war.
- 3. You claim not to have changed the many maps of Morocco, yet, that's exactly what you did to the Morocco Commons article. You replaced the following three images [3][4][5] with the new ones that you uploaded [6][7][8]. This undiscussed and unwarranted change should be reverted.
- 4. Since we're here, I will take this opportunity to ping koavf and Jeff G. since both editors have been dealing with you on a related issue. Maybe you can explain to them why you removed the deletion tag. M.Bitton (talk) 14:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- @EdDakhla: M.Bitton is right, COM:OVERWRITE prevent you to change the meaning of an old and used map. There is room for different point of views and we accept the Moroccan maps with and without the Western Sahara included. Do stop reinstalling your version on File:CIA illegal flights.svg, note that I placed this map on my watchlist, and also you must not do the potentially the same thing on other Morrocan maps. If you persist despite every one say you not to do it, then you may be blocked. Note that as this kind of issue with Morrocan maps is not the first time, I made a request to Check Users. Christian Ferrer (talk) 16:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Started the above section and removed a deletion tag without notification or sufficient basis. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- He has also explicitly stated that he will not follow consensus (i.e. if a file is deleted, he will just reupload it anyway). This merits a stern talking to at least. (Thanks, User:M.Bitton.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:55, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- It might also be a good idea to review the files uploaded by EdDakhla. F.ex one of the files mentioned by M.Bitton, File:Morocco Topography.svg is clearly not own work and is presumably derivative work of File:Morocco Topography.png? Same goes for f.ex File:Morocco Satellite View.png which is unnlikely to be "own work". I haven't done any further review than a quick cursory glance through his uploads, so there may be more. TommyG (talk) 16:52, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
rev del request
Edit summary. sensitive infoDeepfriedokra (talk) 04:20, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra: Done, also hid the logs. -- CptViraj (talk) 07:12, 27 December 2020 (UTC)