User talk:源義信

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Manhhai just disappeared

I can't find him on SmugMug's Flickr, saw one of his images while searching for something else. It seems that Manhhai has completely disappeared. He basically had the largest collection of images of Vietnamese history on the internet, he was blacklisted at the Wikimedia Commons because he often mislabeled copyright ©️ licenses. I am afraid that this is the general direction that the internet is going to. 😕 Hopefully this is temporary, J can only find crops from him. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I noticed it too, extremely sad news... Maybe it's against the website's policy to upload works that do not belong to the user, in which case the account may have been permanently banned. 源義信 (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

File:2023年4月6日 仅用96天，中国快递业务量突破300亿件.webm

File:2023年4月6日 仅用96天，中国快递业务量突破300亿件.webm has been marked as a possible copyright violation. Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content—that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Traditional copyright law does not grant these freedoms, and unless noted otherwise, everything you find on the web is copyrighted and not permitted here. For details on what is acceptable, please read Commons:Licensing. You may also find Commons:Copyright rules useful, or you can ask questions about Commons policies at the Commons:Help desk. If you are the copyright holder and the creator of the file, please read Commons:But it's my own work! for tips on how to provide evidence of that. The file you added has been deleted. If you have written permission from the copyright holder, please have them send us a free license release via COM:VRT. If you believe that the deletion was not in accordance with policy, you may request undeletion. (It is not necessary to request undeletion if using VRT; the file will be automatically restored at the conclusion of the process.) This file is a copyright violation for the following reason: Prohibited background music per Commons:Video#Videos and copyright. It's sourced from the Youtube Music library with a Non-Commercial stipulation. Warning: Wikimedia Commons takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

 

Grand-Duc (talk) 02:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

File:2023年4月7日 马英九返台感言：“九二共识”又“活”过来了！.webm

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Grand-Duc (talk) 02:24, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

I can't read this handwriting 😖

I found this document on eBay, the document begins with "XXX Yên / An Province, XXX Prefecture, Tư XXX District, ...", I have looked at a map of the Nguyễn Dynasty and I can't find the province, I thought that it was likely Vĩnh Yên (永安), but I'm not sure. As for the district, is it "思趈縣"? But I can't find any historical district in Vietnamese history with this name. Prefectures have been abolished since the fall of the Nguyễn Dynasty after World War II (two), so I can't even look for the prefecture name anywhere. Can you read this? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it elsewhere, apparently it's 恩施縣 (Ân Thi District) 快卅府 (Khoái Châu Prefecture), 興安省 (Hưng Yên Province), but 快卅府 should be 快州縣, so it's a rather unorthodox spelling. The "興" is also written in a really weird simplified way, probably "兴安". --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Disappeared French websites

While searching across Ecosia.org today I came across this result, it's an old Nguyễn Dynasty certificate in French that was found on a personal website that was hosted by Orange France. While Ecosia cached the image, the website itself has completely disappeared. "Le service Pages Perso s'est arrêté définitivement le 05 septembre 2023 pour tous les clients. Vous pouvez récupérer vos contenus et demander le transfert d’adresse de votre site vers un nouvel hébergeur jusqu’au 09 janvier 2024. Rassurez-vous, on vous explique tout." Now, these websites aren't "just gone", as Orange France explains below:

"Les pages perso Orange sont susceptibles d’être sauvegardées par la Bibliothèque nationale de France (BnF). En effet, dans le cadre de sa mission de dépôt légal, la BnF collecte les sites internet du domaine français enregistrés en .fr dont font partie les pages perso Orange."

Now, this is actually great news 📰, these websites are preserved for the future, but as of now, they will slowly disappear from all search engines as their caches get renewed and they clear old cached content. So, the National Library of France will use a robot 🤖 to get all websites and content:

"Les collectes sont réalisées à l’aide d’un robot-logiciel qui explore les sites de lien en lien en copiant à mesure de sa progression toutes les pages et les éléments qui les composent."

But... There's a huge catch, any consultation of archived Orange France sites is only possible in the reading rooms of the National Library of France (BnF) and its regional partners, and access is only available to duly accredited researchers. The reason they did this is for the same two (2) reasons why everything is censored on the internet these days, privacy 🔏 and copyright ©️.

Thankfully, public access is still available through The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine and the page entitled "Reconnaissance Optique de Caractères chinois - Brevets annamites - Biographie d'un sergent automobiliste entre 1916 et 1918 (Mis à jour le 11/02/2022)" is still preserved. Now, I remember this website very clearly because of the sub-title "1 - Brevets annamites illisibles par des européens." where the man who documented these documents then completely seems to not know how to read Traditional Chinese characters and Chinese seal script. In fact, he seems to compare both to Simplified Chinese characters and gets the meaning of them wrong. I found this quite interesting, as it shows how someone with absolutely no interest in Traditional Chinese characters will try to decipher them using surface level knowledge and investigation skills in this respect. But tbe issue remains is that these websites went from being publicly accessible to anyone with an internet 🛜 connection, to only accredited researchers who happen to be physically in any building of the National Library of France or one of its official partners.

At a later Ecosia search I found this interesting image, which now only directe to a "404" page. As far as I know SmugMug's Flickr doesn't have any official archival partners and once images are deleted they are deleted. More and more countries are adopting ever more stricter privacy and copyright ©️ legislation while more and more websites are disappearing.

Once, in the 1990's and early 2000's America On-Line (AOL) and the Microsoft Network (MSN) were major social media platforms where people posted videos and pictures, I remember when using Microsoft SkyDrive that Microsoft announced that they were getting rid of MSN Groups and that content would be migrated to Microsoft SkyDrive, no archival service was offered. Likewise, Yahoo! GeoCities has disappeared, and while many archival services have been set up, one thing I've learned watching a lot of "internet archaeology" videos on Google's YouTube service is that a lot disappears all the time.

Meta's Facebook is another example of this, I see a lot of people sharing things there and who knows when those groups were disappear. Since the smartphone revolution, I've noticed that a lot of content is produced to be consumed in a short time and is then deleted. While promotional websites that would later be deleted have always existed, I remember LEGO™ having a huge Bionicle game that you could play online that disappeared when they went for a new series, deliberate archival destruction seems to become more and more common. The Wikimedia Commons can only operate within its scope and the laws, until we see a global change in how people view content and the need for archiving I doubt that much of the internet will get saved. These worries have gotten worse as I've seen news articles like this (We're about to enter the Digital Dark Ages - Online archives are vanishing — and they're taking our history with them. - A man walking down a corridor of apps that are falling away - Lorenzo Matteucci for Business Insider, A middle-aged white man with silver-gray hair, smiling slightly Adam Rogers - Oct 15, 2024, 11:40 AM GMT+2) and this (Video game libraries lose legal appeal to emulate physical game collections online. - Register of Copyrights sides with industry's "market harm" argument for rereleased games. - Kyle Orland – Oct 25, 2024 9:25 PM), the Wikimedia Commons is also a better place for a lot of these media files because of category systems.

I have come across websites about coins or various topics where things have only a handful of surface level categories and it's nearly impossible to properly navigate any topic. Wikimedia websites are truly superior for storing a lot of information, especially archival information, but it seems like more and more archives seem to be doubling down on making their archives less accessible. Some European Library Archives have already stated that they won't publish any content online because of the GDPR and other "privacy rights". These data protection laws seem to have an Orwellian definition where "data protection" just means data destruction. As I live in the European Union, it is literally impossible for me to permanently sell my data to anyone because at all times I legally maintain the right to request its destruction. This is like me selling someone a car and then demanding that they destroy the car whenever I feel like it. These types of laws are getting more global and I've also noticed a trend of countries expanding the post-mortem author copyright ©️ duration. Recently, Viet-Nam went from 50 (fifty) years PMA to 70 (seventy) years PMA.

My guess why Orange France closed its service is because it probably became more costly than what it provided in return. Fewer people visit blogs and forums these days as Meta's Facebook and Reddit have completely taken over these spaces. A few decades ago the internet was full of public websites with comment sections where anyone could comment without even registering an account, today the internet is a very different place and revolves more around mobile apps.

I know that I've complained about this before, but this is why I tend to quickly try to import many things as soon as I come across them. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, I still can't believe how I didn't recognise the 興安 above, as I've literally lived in that province for years. 🙃 Anyhow, some more advice for finding good old documents is Delcampe, some Nguyễn Dynasty documents I found there via Ecosia today already linked to "404" pages as (like with eBay) it's an auction website. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Establishment of the Association pour l'étude du Centre Vietnam

• Création de l’Association pour l’étude du Centre Vietnam (AECV)
• Official website: Association pour l'étude du Centre Vietnam (AECV)

源義信 (talk) 12:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Việt Tự (越字)

I recently came across a post at Meta's Facebook entitled "Việt Tự, một lối viết tiếng An Nam của Vi Huyền Đắc xuất bản năm 1912" (Internet Archive's Wayback Machine) about a proposed script for the Vietnamese language. As you advised against importing from Meta's Facebook I thought that I would bring this to your attention in case you're interested. Or maybe this is more up the alley for use "Lachy70" who knows more about scripts and calligraphy.

The main reason I notified you about this is because I didn't want to import inferior quality files if you would know where to find superior quality versions of these images. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Donald,

Thanks for asking.

As it said, these images are from a book titled "“Việt Tự, một lối viết tiếng An Nam" by Vi Huyền Đắc. You can find the full book here. 源義信 (talk) 00:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. 😃 — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Modern certificate of the Ordre du Dragon d'Annam?

[1] (Image) 源義信 (talk) 02:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)