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SVG Barnstar: 19 August 2013

	The SVG Barnstar
	Thanks a bunch for creating an vectorized USSS flag! Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 06:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Most welcome - thanks for the star FOX 52 (talk) 06:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	Thank you for taking the time to create some vector images for me. Dainomite (talk) 23:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Aircraft carrier diagram - Update request

Hi. I'm sure you know we're using your aircraft carrier comparison diagram [1] in the WP article on aircraft carriers. It's a really good image, but looking closely I think some of the details are slightly out of date. Is there any chance you could update it to reflect the figures on the respective articles for each carrier? For example, the displacement of the British "Queen Elizabeth" class has crept up to 70,000 tonnes and it's not quite as long, the Russian and Chinese carriers are closer to 60,000 tonnes (but are longer), and the air group of the Gerald R Ford is now supposed to be a bit smaller. There might be other slight differences, but I've only been looking at the first four. Wiki-Ed (talk) 20:47, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

SVG Barnstar: 3 February 2014

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	Good job with the SDCSD badge SVG! Illegitimate Barrister 21:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Most welcome -FOX 52 (talk)

SVG request!

Howdy there, FOX-52! Great work on your SVGs, especially the U.S. Federal Reserve flag. I was wondering if you'd be interested in vectorizing this raster image as well as improving this existing SVG (it has embedded raster images in it, thanks to my vastly sub-par SVG skills). Cheers! Illegitimate Barrister 10:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I'll see what I can do - FOX 52 (talk) 15:01, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! Illegitimate Barrister 21:17, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Just saw the SVGs and they look great! Just one thing, the SVG'd flag appears to be transparent, when it should be opaque. Regards, Illegitimate Barrister 04:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Done - buddy, let me know if any adjustments are needed - FOX 52 (talk) 04:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Will do! Thanks again. Illegitimate Barrister 04:59, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

 Request: I just checked the SVG and there appears to be some extra space on the bottom of the flag. Could you take a look at it? Thanks! Illegitimate Barrister 23:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

• Never mind, I fixed it. Sorry about that. Illegitimate Barrister 23:21, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey again Fox

Heya Fox, it's been a while. I was wondering if you would be up for converting another raster image to an svg. It seems like there are no good copies of File:MARSOC LOGO.JPG on Commons or Wikipedia for that matter; they're all low quality and I was hoping this would remedy that. If you're too busy then no worries. Thanks again! Dainomite (talk) 00:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do - FOX 52 (talk) 17:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Done - FOX 52 (talk) 04:06, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I really appreciate you taking the time to vectorize the image. Dainomite (talk) 18:43, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Ye olde SVG request

Sorry to trouble you again, but I was wondering if you could make another SVG for me. It's this one and uses elements from an already existing SVG. Thanks again. Illegitimate Barrister 22:58, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Done -(ATF flag file) - FOX 52 (talk) 04:54, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. Illegitimate Barrister 11:56, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

File:Coat of Arms of Ulcinj.svg

Hi, can you recolor the red flag in white in the File:Coat of Arms of Ulcinj.svg , as it is appeared in the official site of Ulcinj here. And, if possible to make the border a bit thinner. Thanks in advance, --Ammartivari (talk) 16:21, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Done - FOX 52 (talk) 01:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--Ammartivari (talk) 14:30, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

SVG request (18 July 2014)

Howdy there, I was wondering if you could make an SVG version of this PNG flag. It uses elements from an already-existing SVG here. Thanks! Illegitimate Barrister 13:38, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Done Flag of the United States Border Patrol.svg - FOX 52 (talk) 22:44, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! You da man! Illegitimate Barrister 15:35, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

New York City diagram update

Hi FOX 52, I just noticed that the NYC building diagram needs an update. There are many (tall) buildings under construction, like 432 Park Avenue, 225 West 57th Street, One57 etc. It would be nice if you could add those three towers to your (new) diagram. I hope you can help me out! Thanks, Skylinerider (talk) 13:27, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

The diagram is for building height comparisons only - Affixing newer buildings would add no value as they are less likely to be recognized to the reader. FOX 52 (talk) 17:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I guess you are right. Maybe when 432 Park tops out and the other WTC buildings finally get completed (sigh!) ... till then, keep up the good work! Greetings from Vienna, Skylinerider (talk) 12:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Chinese military flags

Please observe this source, the ratio is the same as File:People's Liberation Army Flag of the People's Republic of China.svg and the colour divide is not equal. Fry1989 ^eh? 20:28, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes that's exactly the source I refered to - bottom of that webpage has a picture, and I even had the text translated "flag of upper half with the army the same equal lower part of the flag is sky blue, like-Blue heaven" - there's no way that flag is as square as you've made it - FOX 52 (talk) 03:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Venezuela Roundel

Hi Fox.

The Roudel of Venezuela (Escarapela) was changed in 2012 according to the directives of painting directive issued by CEO-DIR-119 (31/08/2012) and CEO-DIR-120 (4/9/2012). Unfortunately it is not online official information and that the guidelines were printed on paper.

However, here's a tweet issued by the Venezuelan Air Force confirming that is guided by the guidelines issued by the CEO-DIR-119.

These links more information. Include infographics Bolivarian Military Aviation. [2] [3] [4]. The information was written by Adolfo Alfonzo, Subdirector of the magazine "Ámbito Cívico Militar" and Editor of the virtual magazine "CAMUFLAJE, ARTE E ILUSTRACIÓN".

I leave a link (http://www.ceofanb.mil.ve/index.php/publicaciones/revista-ambito-civico-militar) to the official website of Strategic Operational Command of the Bolivarian National Armed Forces of Venezuela. As you may notice, the magazine "Ámbito Cívico Militar" it is edited and published by this institution. Unfortunately only be seen online the latest publication of the magazine. As I said before, the changes of the roundel were published in the edition No. 37 of the magazine.

Given that the image I uploaded was reversed, I do not know what steps to take, because the roundel (File:Roundel of Venezuela.svg) going for three years outdated.

Sorry for my bad English. I use a translator.--Vinotinto1000 (talk) 02:05, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

The problem with your sources is they aren't reliable. The first one only states (translated) "New scheme of paint and logos of systems of weapons" makes no mentions and shows nothing of the "new" roundel. The other group of sources are all from a blog which are not permitted per- WP:SPS. Best to find some photographic evidence FOX 52 (talk) 06:52, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Fox, thanks for answering. I understand the point and seems very valid. I can only hope that out official information, or some images issued by a government agency. Greetings. --Vinotinto1000 (talk) 18:52, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Zimbabwe military flags

Request to a graphist with experience in air force emblems. There a two Zimbabwe military flags showing a low-quality bird, File:Flag of the Zimbabwe Defence Forces.svg and File:Flag of the Air Force of Zimbabwe.svg. Improving the first one should be trivial for you, by taking the bird of the emblem you already vectorized, while for the first one I am not 100 per cent sure of the depiction is the same. Can you improve them?--Antemister (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do - FOX 52 (talk) 06:43, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

 Done - FOX 52 (talk) 03:13, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Really better now!--Antemister (talk) 12:00, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

HuAF roundels

Hello FOX 52!

Why did you revert my edits? I have updated the roundels according to Decree 2/2007. (I. 18.) of the Minister of Defence. The pre-2007 roundels have also been uploaded separately (see here and here).

Regards, Thommy (talk) 11:56, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

You should not over write a file with those kinds of major changes per -WC:Overwrite Policy. You need to create new files under a different file name. - Further your Minister of Defence Decree 2/2007 appears to be something that was under consideration, I can't find any other source (images, artilcles, etc..) to support the claim. - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 17:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

About PLAAF Emblem

Please do not revert People's Liberation Army Air Force since the armband of PLAAF has been changed ([5] and [6]) and the emblem I uploaded is the official emblem of PLAAF, it can be found on car of PLAAF in Military Parade, you can see it [7] and [8] --解放的高加索 (talk) 11:17, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Only problem is your image in translation is titled with "Chief Designer secret army "-15" series armband chest" so not sure where you getting the Air Force part of it - FOX 52 (talk) 21:35, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Coat of arms of the Khmer Republic

Could you, if you have time, create a vector version of File:Coat of arms of The Khmer Republic.jpg? Shouldn't be that difficult, since you can use many parts form already existing files.--Antemister (talk) 21:55, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I'll see what I can do - FOX 52 (talk) 22:02, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@Antemister: - Done Coat of arms of The Khmer vecttor FOX 52 (talk) 01:16, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for doing so! An issue remain, that is the color shade. The file already uploaded ist from Jiri Laudas flag book. Instead an official statistical yearbook as well as Whitney Smith 1975 book show it yellowand red only (BTW, the same applies to the pre-1970 version of today's arms as well). Your depiction seems to be a compromise between both of them. Actually, I consider a goverment publication as more reliable. DO you think it should be changed?--Antemister (talk) 11:40, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Nah I think were good, the use of heavy black line, ends up making the image distorted, and this way the true image is represented without compromise - FOX 52 (talk) 17:46, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

RAF Banners

G'day Mate

I see you Vectorised the RAF Queens Colour by Wally, Would you consider Vectorising's some of the Other Banners he has created?Hawkeyebasil (talk) 11:37, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Overwrite

Will you please stop being disruptive. I'm trying to discuss this matter on Ellin Beltz's talk page where you started a conversation, but until it is resolved can you please stop just reverting? Fry1989 ^eh? 00:18, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

@Fry1989: I'm not sure of what part of major changes is confusing, when it comes to the overwrite policy. Then you're not taking into account of what should be placed in the Former insignia section, because if you update an insignia, then there should be a "Former insignia" for historical purposes. - ei Roundel of the Korean Air Force (current) to Roundel of Korean Air Force 1950-2000 (former) - Roundel of Hungarian Air Force (current) to Roundel of Hungary (1938-1942) - FOX 52 (talk) 05:57, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

If you're going to give me that sarcastic attitude, we're not going to get along. As I explained on Ellin Beltz's talk page, this is common practice for an image that has changed. They did this with the flag of Malawi. It is the same thing. Fry1989 ^eh? 16:58, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

That's not sarcasm, it's common sense - and if it's standard practice then why are there two separate files for South Africa (South Africa 1958-1981) & (1982-2003)? - Again their should be a separate file for the "Former insignia" - regards FOX 52 (talk) 17:16, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Flickr2Commons

I have just come across a few images you have recently uploaded from Flickr. I would appreciate it if in the future, you used the Flickr2Commons tool. This tool allows images to be moved to Commons from Flickr without having to download the images to your own computer. It also brings in the largest resolution of the image, as well making sure to list the correct license and url, making it easy for the automated Flickr Review system. Also, it is fairly easy to categorize images with this tool. To use it, you just need to go to the url and authorize it (where it says "authorise first"). Elisfkc (talk) 17:57, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

File:New York Bldg. Height Comparison.svg

Could you please update File:New York Bldg. Height Comparison.svg so it looks like File:SCAN0003b.jpg (without Condé Nast), just taking into account architectural height, please?

Built buildings over 300 m:

1. One World Trade Center (541 m, spire, with antennae it is 546 m)
2. 432 Park Avenue (425.5 m, roof)
3. Empire State Building (381 m, roof, with antennae it is 443.2 m)
4. Bank of America Tower (366 m)
5. Three World Trade Center (327 m)
6. Chrysler Building (320 m)
7. [53W53] has not been topped out yet (320 m)
8. New York Times Tower (320 m)
9. One57 (306 m)

Thanks Triplecaña (talk) 16:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Mozambique Air Force

It appears Mozambique has created a new roundel, rather than use the overly-complicated coat of arms as an aircraft marking. I intend to recreate this roundel later today after work. Fry1989 ^eh? 20:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fry1989: Just a heads up the Mozambique COA is not the same as their roundel, and there has been some validity issues concerning that insignia (perhaps mention as an alternate) - FOX 52 (talk) 21:01, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I was referring to File:Mozambique Air Force insignia.svg. They use it as an aircraft marking, but it is more properly the Air Force's coat of arms/badge/logo or whatever we shall call it. I agree this new roundel needs more sources before we know for certain it is the official new marking. Fry1989 ^eh? 23:28, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fry1989: And the website has several examples of the current one, but no mentions of yours (yet) - FOX 52 (talk) 23:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I am in a group on Facebook with the person that runs that website, which is where that photo was posted. I haven't spoken with him about this, but I imagine he will add it to the website when he has spare time. Only time will tell if this has been adopted for wider use. Fry1989 ^eh? 00:45, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I just uploaded my drawing. If you have any comments I'm open to hearing them. I decided to name it as a test roundel for now, until more conclusive evidence presents itself. Fry1989 ^eh? 00:55, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Nah, looks good, - Job well done FOX 52 (talk) 01:14, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Image request

Hey there, Fox. I was looking to see what I can do to provide an infobox image for the Police Benevolent Association of the City of New York, and I noticed that the shield they use as the organization's primary symbol is almost identical to a file you've created, File:NYPD badge.png. Would you be willing to work your magic and whip something up? Thanks! Rockhead126 (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@Rockhead126: give me a few days, I'll see what I can do - FOX 52 (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! No rush. Rockhead126 (talk) 22:07, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@Rockhead126: see if this works - File:Police Benevolent Association badge.png - FOX 52 (talk) 04:44, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

That's perfect! Thanks so much. Rockhead126 (talk) 06:18, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Derivative

A short message just to inform you that I used your Aérospatiale Alouette III orthographical image to create c:File:Alouette III AFZ 1998.svg. I modified the angle of the tail since according to me the tail was too horizontal in the previous version.--Le Petit Chat (talk) 12:04, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good - FOX 52 (talk) 17:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Request for SVG US Army unit coat of arms

Hello, would you be interested in creating an svg version of the coat of arms of the US Army 1st Infantry Regiment as the current versions online are low quality? The appropriate colors can be seen on File:1st Infantry Regiment (United States) Coat of Arms.gif and here. Kges1901 (talk) 14:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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DRs

Please ensure you give some rationale when you open Deletion Requests - thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 17:20, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

@Herbythyme: will do - just a note "User:Kaung Kaung4" looks to have randomly pulled several images of the net claiming to be the author - FOX 52 (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

I do realise that however to have a DR there must be a rationale. In this cass information about the copyright status of the image would be very helpful. Thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 07:37, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Issue with Emblem of People's Liberation Army Air Force

Hello, I see you made the most recent edit to the Emblem of People's Liberation Army Air Force so I wanted to inform you that there's a small issue with it; the top left side of the star has a transparent background when it should be white. Oqwert (talk) 15:02, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

OK got it - FOX 52 (talk) 18:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Bhutan Air Arm roundel

The File:Bhutan roundel.png I drew 10 years ago doesn't have its source in a dodgy site. It is from an authoritative book: Jane's Aircraft Recognition Guide Fifth Edition. ISBN 978-0-06-134619-4 (in the US), page 522. Please forgive me for the delay in replying, I was not sure where I had stored that book and it has taken me a while to find it. Xufanc (talk) 14:40, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Flower template

@FOX 52: Hello, and sorry for the bother, but I was wondering if you'd be able to help out with the creation of an SVG template of a certain fictional flower? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 01:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

file:World Navy Aircraft carries chart.svg

Very nice chart :) However, "Charles de Gaulle" seemed too big to me - and I checked all, and I'm afraid, that several carriers are out of scale :( Would you possibly care to improve this valuable picture? I resized all using "Gerald Ford" as a reference, and first of all, "Ch de G" is much too long, as well as "Sao Paulo". "Queen Elizabeth" is slightly too long and too wide (note, that official RN page states legth only 280 m and her ski-jump actually doesn't stick out). "Kuzniecov" and "Liaoning" both have length 306 m, so it's pretty OK. The ones in lower row are generally too big... Pibwl (talk) 23:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Wentworth and Bland flag

Hi,

Apologies but I didn’t realise that overwriting an image on Commons required special approval and I would like the black lines and text colour matched to the same blue used in the Union Jack within the flag. Would you have the time to do this?

Many thanks, Willthorpe (talk) 04:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

@Willthorpe: -  Done - FOX 52 (talk) 06:13, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Where I can find heraldic templates

Hi @FOX 52, I have a question about heraldry (If you can respond this), on what page can i fint Svg Heraldry templates

Greetings El Fámirano (talk) 13:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

@El Fámirano: am not sure- try @Fry1989: may have a better answer for ya Cheers- FOX 52 (talk) 21:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

File:Seal of the Iraqi Air Force.svg

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The factual accuracy of the chemical structure File:CAFENE~1.svg is disputed

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I wonder if the problem is the result of a poor autotracing or similar conversion from File:Cafeïne.png, which does not have any of the problems I highlighted? DMacks (talk) 17:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)