***2024-25 CFB Playoff/Bowl (Dec. 17-Jan. 20) Games Thread***
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Not particularly.
Boise State is itself a part of the polling problem where certain G5s often get bumped way too high.
Boise shouldn't even be one of the top 4 conference champions. That's where the problem lies, not with having the bye in the first place.
Yeah give conference champions who aren't ranked high enough for a bye home field in the first round. That makes sense. What doesn't make sense is giving ASU or Boise St. a bye over Texas. That's just dumb. Texas had a way better season and was much more deserving.
Yeah but that's sidestepping the point. In a 12-team tourney there'll be 4 byes. Those should go to the highest ranked teams in the field.
The rankings are pretty much utter trash set up to try to maximize ratings. Week in and week out we see that.
The only thing we really know is who won the power conferences (of which boise state is not)
It's not quite the same. In BB, every team gets to play in their conference tournament, so you can get auto qualifiers that aren't very good. In FB, now that conferences have eschewed divisions, the top two teams play for the championship. I'd argue these are more deserving of a bye.
Also, the BB tournament committee use defined criteria for seeding. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than the CFP committee, who make criteria up to suit their desires.
But those aren’t the games that would be played under this system.
It’d be:
ND vs Clemson
OSU vs ASU
Tenn. vs SMU
IU vs Boise State
if the argument is playing at home (or on neutral fields) would have made IU and Tennessee competitive it seems like all the more reason to keep the byes as-is.
The byes are really the only mitigation for conference/school bias.
Having a home game is a HUGE advantage. The 9 thru 12 seeds are going to win about twice a decade.
Having a week off is also a HUGE advantage, though not nearly as much. Id guess it will be 3/4 of the top 4 than win annually.
This isnt going to be march madness. Theres no cinderella here. There ia a big gap between the top team or 3 and the rest, so there was never a need to go past 4 teams. The other games are just about money.
Having a week off is also a HUGE advantage, though not nearly as much. Id guess it will be 3/4 of the top 4 than win annually.
This isnt going to be march madness. Theres no cinderella here. There ia a big gap between the top team or 3 and the rest, so there was never a need to go past 4 teams. The other games are just about money.
Since they want to expand it anyways, just make it 16 and the conference champions get a top 8 seed and get to host a game. Cause I’ve heard all week from podcasters from the South that cold weather is not football weather. To me, that’s just a result of playing these important bowl games in the South for too long. Let’s give everyone a chance to experience what football is in the Northern half of the country.
And while we’re at it, let’s get some of the later round games up North. Even if they’re in indoor stadiums, let’s take the sport back and get some games in Indianapolis or Minneapolis to allow other fanbases a chance to have close games.
I think it's okay to have the 1st round games played on the higher seeded team's home field, but if you want to determine a true champion all subsequent games should be played on neutral fields.
There's such a thing as a home field advantage, and then there's an unfair advantage. There were times yesterday when the SMU QB literally could not hear the play call in his helmet speaker so he had no choice but to use up a time out.
No way. What's clear to me is that Tennessee, Indiana and SMU were ranked too high and BYU should have been somewhere in the mix. So we need guardrails (automatic bids and automatic byes) to help overcome the bias toward the SEC and B10. Next year the committee also needs to put more weight on quality wins and head to head. It never made any sense that SMU was always ranked ahead of BYU when they had the same number of losses.
If you (and the talking heads) had your way, Indiana (#8) would have hosted a playoff game against Boise State (#9). How in the heck would that be fair? Boise State has better wins, a better loss and a conference championship. If this isn't B10 bias on full display, I don't know what it is.
College Football Playoff - Rankings
Well, weekend 1 of this experiment was a total disaster. I wonder how many people turned these games off at halftime and watched the NFL or Carry On?
Totally won't happen since we're in the abyss but college football is not going to get better in its current format and I'm sure there's a lot of logistics and 'But what if?'s or whatever, but:
8 Conferences.
10 teams each. Don't care if the SEC wants to keep 'divisions' and have two 10 team conferences. Whatever.
Everyone plays one another.
CCG is two top teams, is treated like a 1st round playoff, just like the pros, winner goes on, loser goes to a bowl. That's cutthroat for an undefeated team, but too bad.
Keep the committee out of it outside of using an actual formula that seeds the teams.
8 Conferences.
10 teams each. Don't care if the SEC wants to keep 'divisions' and have two 10 team conferences. Whatever.
Everyone plays one another.
CCG is two top teams, is treated like a 1st round playoff, just like the pros, winner goes on, loser goes to a bowl. That's cutthroat for an undefeated team, but too bad.
Keep the committee out of it outside of using an actual formula that seeds the teams.
I watched the FCS playoff games. SDSU / NDSU was easily the best game of the day.
d'accord!
A couple of things.
Notre Dame, Penn State and Ohio State all won because they are better teams than Indiana, SMU and Tennessee. Better teams that play at home usually win. Weather had NOTHING to do with it. Yes, it was cold, but it was cold for all 6 teams just like games in September can be really out for both teams that play in extreme heat early in the year.
The myth that northern December cold, etc. is "Football Weather" is just that, a myth. The majority of games played by northern teams are not in this kind of weather. One, maybe two games a year in November are played in wintry weather and it usually is not as cold as it is in December. As was pointed out in all three games, ND, PSU and OSU all hosted their FIRST December home games EVER this weekend. So, by the myth of northern football weather - those three teams have never played a home game in true December football weather - not even against each other.
It's actually funny when fans (not you
Once again, weather was not the reason ND, PSU and OSU won yesterday. Beaing BETTER and playing at HOME were the reasons. ND would have won @ Indiana, Penn State would have won @ SMU and Ohio State would have won @ Tennessee yesterday. They were all three just better than their opponents. Maybe an Upset happens due to being on the road, but I doubt it.
However, I do like the point of giving everyone a chance to experience what football is in the northern half of the country. That is a good thing. This is especially true when it comes to travel. It has not been fair that northern teams always have to travel far for their Bowl Games. I am all for northern Bowl Games indoors or outside. FWIW, that is one of the reasons so many Tennessee fans travelled to Columbus, because Columbus is closer to Knoxville than New Orleans, Miami, Pasadena, etc.
On the lighter side, I've always thought the B1G should start a Bowl Game @ Solider Field (outdoors) or Ford Field (indoors) on NYD to send their Champion to play to set the narrative, but they LOVE Pasadena on NYD. Cannot figure out why? So, blame the B1G!
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KidSilverhair
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Can’t wait for the first time in the playoff when a 2-loss 11 seed manages to upset an undefeated SEC team and everybody starts screaming about “unfair!” and “a decent system wouldn’t have allowed this outcome!” and “we must protect the better teams!”
Cause it’s gonna happen. Maybe not for a really long time, but it will happen. Sports are funny that way.
Cause it’s gonna happen. Maybe not for a really long time, but it will happen. Sports are funny that way.
