Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (film)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2024

Nickelodeon Movies isn't making it 50.86.228.234 (talk) 13:15, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

So what? Paramount is making the Sonic movie series excellent so far. Tech and Car Savvy (talk) 19:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2024

98.16.93.221 (talk) 10:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

James Wolk was revealed to play Metal Sonic

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 11:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

He says that James Wolk's role in Sonic 3 was revealed and his role was Metal Sonic. 172.103.254.229 (talk) 15:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

He says that James Wolk's role in Sonic 3 was revealed and his role was Metal Sonic. 172.103.254.229 (talk) 15:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a source (a link to where you found it aside from a YouTube video)? SuperWikiBrother (talk) 17:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Its not me he found out but i have no idea from where he found it from, I even check everywhere but nothing said anything. I think he didn't even confirm it. 172.103.254.229 (talk) 19:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

or maybe he just made a claim. 172.103.254.229 (talk) 04:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I believe what you're talking about is probably this ScreenRant article right here (link:https://screenrant.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-3-new-cast-character-predictions/), but the thing is that this article doesn't confirm any new voice roles for the characters, it's merely a fan-speculation about which characters the actors who were confirmed, but haven't revealed which role they're in, would or should be playing. TonyZangrand (talk) 22:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Concerning Keanu Reeves

from what i’ve been hearing, keanu reeves as shadow the hedgehog is still simply rumored, as neither paramount or any of the other cast members have been able to verify the decision, and given how secretive this film has been, it’s entirely possible the rumors could be false. idris elba was reportedly confused when the casting was brought up. please, converse. Flyless Kyle (talk) 07:03, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

While Paramount have not directly confirmed it themselves at this point (which, given how close we are to the film, it is odd we haven't even had a teaser - unless they're planning a delay - but that's not the topic of discussion here), the source cited for the casting is The Hollywood Reporter - and they're pretty damn accurate, with good sources. giftheck (talk) 07:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

So Paramount and Sega Sammy like to decline to comment on these sorts of castings, right? I recall hearing that Colleen O'Shaughnessy was even directed by Paramount to not speak on it. I have no source for this though.

What is going on here? They're being game-y. They would have outright denied them and Reeves's agency would have commented had this been verifiably false. Hell, MCU actors have long-standing histories of playing dumb when character castings are reported. source

Ain't a novel concept. Happens in big studio films all the time. BarntToust (talk) 23:53, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

and from today [1]

See? the company is just playing silly. BarntToust (talk) 17:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, there it is. The trailer just confirmed it. giftheck (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, well well. Just note that if a reliable source like THR or Deadline or Variety reports something, we include it in cases outside of outright denial from the company. They love to faux-on "secrecy". BarntToust (talk) 15:15, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Marketing

@BarntToust Let's deal with this dilemma in a civil manner. You want to add a marketing tidbit about a TIkTok teasing Keanu's casting, and I think that's unnecessary. I explained my reasoning as follows:

A tiktok teasing a casting that had been reported months prior by a reliable hollywood trade isn't significant. A trailer, viral marketing campaign (like the building projections), or promotion shown at a big event are. We don't have to cover every bit of marketing or the section will become cluttered.

Let me just add that there has already been a similar discussion regarding a matter like this on The Super Mario Bros. Movie talk page. Please read it.

Zingo156 (talk) 17:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Look, I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that you want minimalism here. It's an address of a central character being in the film. If it was a guy named "Johnny" I would not support this. But, it's the first address of a central character. I'm not going to advocate for every single solitary TikTok that is posted by the account, but this one is important.

The idea that just trailers are important is wholly misguided. But I'm being reasonable here. If I covered every single social media post, I'd be making an ass of myself. But this particular one is actually important and merits inclusion. BarntToust (talk) 17:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I didn't say trailers are ONLY valid (I literally said viral marketing campaigns or promotions shown at the big events like a sports game are ok). That TikTok, I'll argue isn't significant enough for the lengthy sentence you put in the marketing section. The Cinemacon sentence that precedes it is fine because it is the first footage of the film shown at a important event. Zingo156 (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Look, I'm in support of adding things that have meaning. Such as, y'know, this.

I'd really not be covering every darn poster + reaction like THAT silly shenanigan stuff. Look, I'm just here to keep things simple but have some fleshed-out information.

Believe me, there's a right way to make a marketing section big. Deadpool & Wolverine#Marketing is something I've helped work on for a good while, and it's a pretty large section. But we don't cover every darn social media post on there. We don't mull every silly vanity poster. But if something big is covered, then we mention it.

Keanu Getting teased as shadow for the first time is big. first-time basis only.

It would only be extra if I covered, say, every single Instagram story they've been posting in minute detail. BarntToust (talk) 17:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm aware it's been reported for a while, but this is the first time it's "officially" been posted on. It makes sense. If they keeping doing it, I wouldn't add more and more and more, unless the voluminous posting itself proved notable. BarntToust (talk) 17:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Look, I get Zingo's concerns here. But I also recognize Barnttoust's point of this post being a first, and is inherently notable. I don't want this going wayyy over detailed but there are benchmarks and they do deserve to be recognized. YodaYogaYogurt154 (talk) 17:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

In short, there's a line that's as fine as Keanu Reeves is between a random TikTok post or Instagram reel and a first-time tease for an anticipated casting for a character. I want to emphasize that you, Zingo, are totally right in your concerns about this section becoming as bloated as Dr. Eggman, but this one is not some mundane tidbit.

Much love, BarntToust (talk) 17:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this one to discussion. I noticed that yesterday, you'd deleted something with the rationale "Who cares" and SleepDeprivedGinger added it back. Thanks for giving your input here. Thanks for taking the time to put out your rationale here. BarntToust (talk) 18:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I understand now. Thanks for being willing to discuss it out civilly. Zingo156 (talk) 18:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

hey, thanks for offering an ear to listen to my rationale. I totally get the need to do marketing and reception, commentary stuff like this the right way. I love doing that stuff on the encyclopedia. I'm glad you pointed out the Mario movie discussion, because that shows what we need to stay away from, and along with this, sets some ground rules on what is accepted as meritorious and what is frivolous.

I don't expect we'll mull every bit of promotion so closely as that, lol!

You have a good one, Zingo! BarntToust (talk) 18:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Explaining about Keanu being mentioned in the first film from the cast section

Just a quick question: when saying about Keanu casting as Shadow in the Cast section, why can't they say about Keanu being mentioned in the first film? Mr.Shadow514 (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)