Primefac

AWB edits causing citation error

It looks like you are replacing some deprecated templates. In doing so, you have introduced a number of citation errors into articles, inserting the invalid parameter value |display-authors=etal2, as in this edit. "etal" and "2" are valid values for |display-authors=, but not "etal2".

Can you please make a pass through Category:CS1 errors: invalid parameter value to clean up these instances of "etal2"? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:26, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Jonesey95, thanks for the note, I apparently added the "2" accidentally, probably when entering the replacement code. I'll get that fixed up straightaway. Primefac (talk) 13:13, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, that was fast! – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:38, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

18:29:55, 23 September 2015 review of submission by Commando Mark

• Commando Mark (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Shifuji Shaurya (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Commando Mark, do you have a question? Primefac (talk) 20:04, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for your help (about the Machpella Cave)

Naytz (talk) 02:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I meant to use { { request edit } } not request help. Sorry and thanks for your trouble. --Naytz (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

No worries, Naytz, glad I could be of assistance. Primefac (talk) 20:06, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Preferential Treatment to Our Competitor

Hello Primefac,

I am writing to voice my complaint about preferential treatment given by Wikipedia and you in reviewing my company's updated page (submitted in January 2015). My company, Worth Ave. Group was updating its Wiki page in response its top competitor Square Trade having its products listed in its Wiki page as well as touting its own horn:

In 2006, SquareTrade began providing consumer protection plans for portable devices, appliances, and other electronics, both on-line and through large retailers. PC Magazine listed it as number 93 in its list of the best 100 web sites of the year.[5] In 2012, Bain Capital and Bain Capital Ventures announced they were investing $238 million in the company, marking the second largest venture capital deal of the year.[6] The company's underwriter has been AmTrust Financial Services, Inc., but as of 2013, SquareTrade was shifting toward Starr Indemnity.[7]

We would like an explanation as to why one company is allowed to get away with this while another company is not. If our content is deemed unsuitable for Wikipedia, then by your own guidelines, Square Trade's content is also unsuitable. Please let us know when the latter will be removed.

Thank you.

Jan Miller, SEO Specialist Worth Ave. Group

jan@worthavegroup.com http://www.worthavegroup.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janm~worthavegroup2793 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Janm~worthavegroup2793, you're going to have to give me some Wikilinks, because I have no idea what you're talking about. Primefac (talk) 19:13, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Our revisions (since purged) discussed our lines our business and included some relevant third parties discussing our company. Wikipedia shot them down as being "self-serving". Yet our primary competitor was actually scolded by Wikipedia editors for "wikispam", but then allowed to get away with the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:SquareTrade. Looking at the "What links here" to the Square Trade Wiki page, it looks as though there is some kind of link farm going on within Wikipedia. Several Wiki pages appear to have been created solely to link to the Square Trade Wiki page. Here is that list: {{cot|big list|width=75%}

• PlayStation 3 ‎ (links | edit)
• Consumer electronics ‎ (links | edit)
• Online dispute resolution ‎ (links | edit)
• Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Computing ‎ (links | edit)
• Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Business ‎ (links | edit)
• Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Computing Miscellaneous ‎ (links | edit)
• Xbox 360 technical problems ‎ (links | edit)
• History of video game consoles (seventh generation) ‎ (links | edit)
• User talk:63.77.139.254 ‎ (links | edit)
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 August 18 ‎ (links | edit)
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SquareTrade ‎ (links | edit)
• Squaretrade (redirect page) ‎ (links | edit)
• User:AlexNewArtBot/LogicSearchResult/archive10 ‎ (links | edit)
• User:AlexNewArtBot/SouthernCaliforniaSearchResult/archive15 ‎ (links | edit)
• User:AlexNewArtBot/CleanupSearchResult/archive2 ‎ (links | edit)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject History Merge/28 ‎ (links | edit)
• User talk:Joe Decker/Archive 16 ‎ (links | edit)
• Protect Your Bubble ‎ (links | edit)
• Consumer Cellular ‎ (links | edit)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject History Merge/28 ‎ (links | edit)
• The Pitch (TV series) ‎ (links | edit)
• Talk:SquareTrade ‎ (links | edit)
• User:Lalazhang/Yek Mobile ‎ (links | edit)
• File:SquareTrade New Logo.png ‎ (links | edit)
• User talk:Squaretrade ‎ (links | edit)
• UBreakiFix ‎ (links | edit)

|}

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Janm~worthavegroup2793 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Janm~worthavegroup2793, that's actually a rather small list, compared to some other pages, and after looking at a few of them I see no reason to suspect foul play. While it's unfortunate what happened to your draft page, the fact of the matter is that other stuff exists and what happens to one article does not impact how any other article is treated. The language in the SquareTrade article could probably be modified, but it's not overly promotional. Primefac (talk) 14:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Rajiv Jain

Dear Sir,

I appreciate the time you took to read my article. I have removed CITEKILL in the tables.

Regards, Judeibinge (talk) 16:35, 26 September 2015 (UTC)Judeibinge (talk) 16:41, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Rajiv Jain

Hello Sir,

Please do see the article, How it looks ???

Thanks for your time!

Regards Judeibinge (talk) 20:03, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Eckhart II revision

Hi Primefac:

YES you are rightr pointing to the pics should not replace real formulas... but this case was entirelly the opposite... I've put the pic to how that formulas... and another contributor did the one one the page.... AND I've ask for help TO CORRECT THE FORMAT of that addition as do not respect the spacing between lines nor fonts. rendering that two formulas to seem ONE. And also left the pic there to show the true formatting as visual reference.

Can you, maybe do that formatting fix? I can't (for now). And want to ask you to revert your edit to show the pic, just until the formula's formatting will be corrected and shows accordingly. I prefer to ask you as it should be instead any other option.

TienShenLong @ 21:05, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Olowe2011 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 27 September 2015‎ (UTC)

Draft:Batman: Detective No. 27

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia. I submitted the article (Draft:Batman: Detective No. 27) which you turned down. I have added a new 3rd party source, which I think is a reliable source, as per your instructions. Can you please help me by checking the article for any other flags before I resubmit it.

Ananda.mondal.cal (talk) 08:48, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

You have been mentioned in an Arbcom case

Hello User:Primefac, you have been mentioned in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Complaint_against_administrator_conduct and if you desire, enter a statement, and any other material you choose to submit to the Arbitration Committee's attention. You may find useful information by reviewing the following links as well:

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for arbitration Wikipedia:Arbitration guide

Thank you for the attention you have given this matter. Olowe2011 ^Talk 12:52, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Draft talk:Fathollah Marzban

Hello Primefac

Thank you for the comment on my article draft

"Verification is needed for all awards. Primefac (talk) 12:52, 27 September 2015 (UTC)"

Please tell me how can I verify the awards? Scanning and sending the certificate of the awards would be sufficient?

Please guide me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nader.parham (talk • contribs) 13:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Nader.parham, you should be verifying the awards using independent reliable sources such as magazines, newspapers, and trustworthy websites. Note the word independent, which means "not directly connected to the source." In other words, scanning the certificate and using it as "proof" does not count, because (in theory) you could have created that award certificate yourself and we'd never know (see WP:PRIMARY). Basically, we need third-party evidence that the person has actually won an award, and if there is no proof then the award should not be listed. Primefac (talk) 14:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

14:01:43, 28 September 2015 review of submission by Judeibinge

• Judeibinge (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Rajiv Jain (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

'REQUEST' Sir, Please change the article name Rajiv Jain to 'Rajiv jain (cinematographer)' and I am sorry if asking for too much, Is it possible to create: Find sources: "Rajiv Jain (cinematographer)" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · highbeam · JSTOR · free images · wikipedia library. Promise you will find articles/references that are about Rajiv Jain (cinematographer). Rajiv Jain is very common name in India and There are too many Rajiv Jain(s), who are doing excellent in their respective fields. There are other articles who are also following same on WP: Om Prakash (cinematographer), Ashok Kumar (cinematographer), Jeeva (director). Sir I have re-edited the article, whenever you have time time, have a look and guide me. Thanks very much Judeibinge (talk) 14:01, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

 Not done Judeibinge, per the Naming Criteria, article titles should be short and concise. As there is currently no article on Rajiv Jain (in any profession), if and when your Draft is accepted it will stay "Rajiv Jain." If another article about a different Rajiv jain is written, only then will we disambiguate the title with (cinematographer).

I am sorry.Judeibinge (talk) 14:25, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Judeibinge: I had reformat the article on Rajiv Jain. Hope it will help you. Peace Manikadsouza (talk) 20:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Manikadsouza, you have copied directly from IMDb, which is strictly not allowed. I have removed the offending content and stress that you should not do that again. Primefac (talk) 20:48, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Primefac Respected Admin: With all due respect same bio u will find every where including Rajeev's Bio site: Plz look its same every where, yes I copied from other source not from IMDB. So IMDB should not have any claim...

• http://pagelous.com/en/pages/537035be421aa9441e096b80
• http://kalpvriksh-cinematography.blogspot.in
• https://m.facebook.com/rajivjaincinematographer?v=info&expand=1&nearby
• http://rajeevjain.blog.co.uk/tags/indian-director-of-photography/
• http://www.hotfrog.in/business/maharashtra/mira-bhayandar/rajeev-jain-films-cinematography-and-grips

Regards, Manikadsouza (talk) 21:20, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter where the content came from, Manikadsouza, it's still directly copied, which is against Wikipedia's copyright policy. Primefac (talk) 21:28, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Primefac Judeibinge: I have tried to edit same article again and if you see there is clear evidence of why this subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia - 20,226 people who like "Rajeev Jain Cinematography" facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/rajivjaincinematographer (COMMUNITY PAGE ABOUT CINEMATOGRAPHY) Manikadsouza (talk) 15:30, 2 October 2015 (UTC)Manikadsouza (talk) 08:29, 2 October 2015 (UTC)Manikadsouza (talk) 15:30, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

THANK YOU!

I hope I'm doing this right! Thank you!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mishaindiana (talk • contribs) 17:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

The Arbitration Committee has declined the Request for Arbitration Committee judgement arbitration case request, which you were listed as a party to. For the Arbitration Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 13:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing Draft:Racal Recorders

Dear Primefac,

Thank you for reviewing Draft:Racal Recorders the changes that you suggest have been made.

This is principally a historic article about an important company in the history of the UK electronics industry between 1950's - 1990's. Hopefully the article will seed others to add further details and improve the entry.

Once live, the page will be linked from:

• Racal
• Voice logging

Many thanks

Silverknight1960 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverknight1960 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Johnny & the Dicks

Hi Primefac,

I am writing to discuss your reasons for declining: Draft:Johnny & the Dicks My correspondence here is only to achieve clarity. You listed "Only two references, and a lot of unsourced content." I don't know how the criterion of "only two" evolved but The New York Times and Jon savage, a noted authority on the subject seem sterling references. I was trying to avoid a string of redundant references just for the purposes of wiki inclusion. The sited "guidelines on the notability of music-related topics" is difficult in that this band was primarily a performance art band, though it was firmly rooted in "punk rock" Mr. Morton is a sited innovator of the "punk" genre when the classification "punk" was not available. He once asked me, "How could we be proto-punk, when the term "punk" had not been invented?"

As far as your comment: "a lot of unsourced content." Much of the information came directly from John D Morton, the leader of the band and I do not see why his historic self-observations could be in doubt or how to "site" them as a reference without being circular.

At the time of the bands existence, this type of work was unheard of, Ground breaking if you will. Given their 6 month lifespan that they achieved little notoriety in that time is perhaps anathema.

I will prevail to edit this to an acceptable article, but any response you might have would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance of your reply, (Pre-PS: I could not quite figure out how to sign my post "Sign your posts on talk pages: 99Kitty Kats (talk) 20:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC)" so I've done my best)

99Kitty Kats 99Kitty Kats (talk) 20:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC) 99Kitty Kats

Okay, 99Kitty Kats a few things to cover in response to your post.

• References - "only two references..." was simply a statement that there were only two references, and that there was a lot of unsourced content. It wasn't a criterion, but an observation. A page of this size should have at least 3-4 solid references.
• You are allowed to re-use references (see this section of REFB), and I encourage you to do so if it's necessary.
• I used the musician criteria for the decline because the band played music. It doesn't matter what it was defined as because NMUSIC is for any musician/musical group.
• You cannot use information directly from the source. That is called a PRIMARY source. Who's to say he's not lying, embellishing, or simply mis-remembering the facts? Sources used in Wikipedia articles need to be independent reliable sources that discuss the subject.

If the band has received no press coverage, then they do not meet The Golden Rule and therefore cannot have a page on Wikipedia. Offline sources are acceptable, however, so don't worry if you can't find anything online.

As a side note, when you sign your posts, use ~~~~, which will insert your signature after you save the page. Primefac (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I will edit and re-submit. 99Kitty Kats (talk) 14:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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Elementary school articles

Hello, I noticed your name on another page. I've been trying to get help regarding two articles about elementary schools. I started this discussion on the WikiProject Schools talk page. One person replied but it doesn't really address my issues. I asked someone else who had posted previously on that talk page, but I haven't heard back from them. So, if possible, could you read what I wrote on the WikiProject Schools page and take whatever action is appropriate. I don't know what to do and don't even want to attempt it since I'm just not knowledgeable enough about it. Thank you. Czoal (talk) 23:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Primfac, please check out Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools for more information regarding redirects. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:25, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Kudpung, thanks for the clarification. I'm usually on the AFD side of OUTCOMES so I rarely see the redir side of it. Will keep that in mind for next time. Primefac (talk) 00:28, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

hi

I hate it when people stalk my contributions. If only you had replied to my message in the astronomy wikiproject, it would be a somewhat less bad Huritisho (talk) 02:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Huritisho, an edit that is unrelated to the query at WT:AST does not require a comment. I'm not sure how you can hate edit stalking when your account is only six days old, but it does happen. I occasionally check user's edits just to see what they've done (mostly out of curiosity), and I noticed some interesting things. Out of courtesy I've commented on two issues on WT:AST but I think I should also mention that Yellow is not a shade of Orange. I'll hold off undoing that one but I do not think that was an appropriate edit.

You seem to be off to a quick start here, which is great, and should you want to bounce ideas off someone (other than AST) I'm happy to give feedback. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 03:07, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

The thing is that I'm not used to the wikipedia-way of getting things done. Nothing belongs to anyone here and it is kind of strange and creepy. cheers Huritisho (talk) 03:20, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Oohhh, the shade of orange edit. Haha. Well, technically it could be, why not? It is red with green with some more or some less black. Anyway, I'll remove that. That was more of a test edit than anyting else, I have to admit. Huritisho (talk) 03:29, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Care to talk to me here regarding your concerns on the lists?Huritisho (talk) 04:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Martin Suleki speedy deletion

Martin Suleki was indeed the wrong name, as reported by questionable sources in the immediate wake of the shooting. Currently waiting on speedy deletion of Chris Harper Mercer so the page can be moved accordingly. So yes, slander of whomever Martin Suleki may be, but I believe the information is accurate in relation to Chris Harper Mercer. CocoaPuff310 (talk) 01:51, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

It would redirect there if there wasn't an article waiting to be moved. (It is a stub, for now, because of the lack of information about the perpetrator). Other school shooters have their own articles; I don't see why that can't be attempted here. CocoaPuff310 (talk) 01:57, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

CocoaPuff310, WP:BLP1E and similar policies state that when an event is caused by one person, and that is all they are known for, then the person's article should redirect to the event article, where the details can be listed. Other shooters' articles tend to exist because of other things happening after the fact (the trial, for instance). A dead shooter isn't going to be making any new news. Primefac (talk) 02:02, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

awb edits

are you sure those edits are really necessary? I mean, you're assassinating the small articles... Huritisho 23:20, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Huritisho, yes. If you feel that a particular one is worth keeping, feel free to bring it up on its talk page. The templates, however, are slated for deletion, and WT:AST feels that the majority of those tables are unnecessary. Primefac (talk) 23:22, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, can you explain me exactly what the problem is? I read the links but I still don't understand what's going on. I'm asking this because all your negative byte change is unsettling.... geez Huritisho 01:48, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Huritisho, the templates that created the tables were complicated, convoluted, and I'm pretty sure the only person other than me who knew how they worked was the creator. After a deletion discussion it was determined that the templates needed to be substituted or removed. The templates were pretty much impossible to substitute, and the tables created were just listcruft (with no particular historical or scientific merit as to why they were included), and thus the discussion at WT:AST decided that the tables themselves weren't really necessary.

I'm sorry you feel flustered by my edits. Primefac (talk) 02:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

It's ok. I just think that the removal of the list is bad for the small articles. Huritisho 01:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

In for a penny, in for a pound

Was worth a try. Well done, the article will be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.204.46 (talk) 20:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

03:11:01, 6 October 2015 review of submission by 76.103.15.233

• 76.103.15.233 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Sianirose/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have now added a reference to the Wikipedia Mediterranean diet page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet

on which the PREDIMED Diet study is built. I believe that as a therapeutic diet, it can stand as a Wikipedia entry on its own. My write-up is objective (I think!) and solely based on the scientific literature (as referenced). 

I did read the reference link for what is not appropriate for Wikipedia, but still think this is an objective, well-referenced description of a particular diet, and its causal links to preventing cardiovascular and other diseases. I reference several papers which show how this unique study compares different variants of the Mediterranean diet to a Control group. Consequently, the clinical study outcomes are uniquely controlled and therefore "real."

If this does not meet your criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia, can you please give me more information about why not, and perhaps what I could do to make it appropriate.

Thank you, Mike Siani-Rose

21:58:50, 7 October 2015 review of submission by Graffitihistory

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  • Draft:Raseone (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. Thank you for reviewing the article so quickly. I have improved the specificity of the citations & added more sources. I am working now to add citations to existing wikipedia pages and fair use images from the yale book.

Request on 22:22:28, 7 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Graffitihistory

• Graffitihistory (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Raseone (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. I was told I can not add the images until the article is approved. I have enhanced the citations. Can you please tell me more specifically what is lacking here. I am surprised that a yale university textbook is not reliable enough. Am I doing the citations wrong? This is my first article but I have several other well known artists & musicians I would like to list so I could really use your help in understanding how to get these articles started so the community can see & contribute to them.

Graffitihistory (talk) 22:22, 7 October 2015 (UTC)