Talk:Artem Mikoyan

First paragraph

Armenia did not produce aircrafts by itself. Hence, the "Armenian aircraft designer" phrase makes no sense. It is more common to say "A Soviet aircraft designer of Armenian descent".

Comment

Please read my remark at Anastas Mikoyan discussion page. His relatives in Sanahin strictly pronounce his name as "Artem" so I don't know how "Артём" (Artyom) in his Russian transcription arose.

Russians generally take the Armenian name Artem to be the same as Russian name Artyom, because e/yo (е/ё) are seldom distinguished in Russian writing.  So Soviet encyclopedias give "Артём" for Mikoyan.  Btw, what is the place of accent in Artem? — Monedula 07:49, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Those relatives place accent to 'A' (the first sylable). Aramgutang seems to be an expert for Armenian language and maybe he knows more about it and can write the name in Armenian script.

In Russian, the stress in Artyom is on the last syllable, and the name is never pronounced Artem (although may be written as such due to ye/yo (е/ё) substitution). In Armenian, the name is usually also pronounced Artyom, although Artem can be acceptable. Since most Armenians (in Armenia) speak Russian, the Russian and Armenian names can be used interchangably, and depend on individual preference. Since in Armenian the stress is always on the last syllable, the relatives may just pronounce it that way in English (eg. my name "Aram" is stressed on the last syllable in Armenian, but I prefer it when the first A is stressed in English and pronounced like "Adam", rather than "a dam", (replacing the d with an r of course)). --Aramgutang 10:29, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Politician

I included him as a politician since the article indicates he was six times a member of the Supreme Soviet, which, according to that article, was a policy-making body. Maybe there should be instead a category "Members of the Supreme Soviet" which may or may not be a sub-category of Politicians. But even if these Soviet "celebrities" were conscripted into service (like Roman plebian senators), I don't think Category:Politicians intends to distinguish between conscription and election. Fleminra 16:29, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

In the Soviet Union, the term "politician" was never used at all (more exactly, it was used for Western politicians only).  For a Soviet citizen, applying the term "politician" to a member of the Supreme Soviet would sound really strange. — Monedula 17:03, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sure thing! --jno 08:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. —Fleminra 19:07, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

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Causing WW3

Of course we are not saying that the beautiful Fulcrum was designed to become the cause of WW3. KnownAnon (talk) 17:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)