Talk:Blooper
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Human Error Factor in Bloopers
editQuick question, would uncontrollable factors (ie, spasms of coughing, farting, etc), be considered a blooper. If yes, would it be a human error, or other? KB1KOI 19:16, 2006 Dec 29
I have merged the former article out-takes with this one as the out-takes piece was virtually identical. 23skidoo 07:58, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- While we're at it, how about creating a redirect for "gag reel"? I checked and there was no page for gag reel, but it really should redirect here. How is one supposed to explain that the Firefly boxset includs a "gag reel" as an extra, without being able to link to a page to explain it? Well, obviously, it's possible, but it's kind of annoying that there's no redirect to blooper. I have no idea how to set that up, though. 63.21.22.253 06:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- I have redirected "blooper reel" here, as I realized it probably didn't need its own article. Daniel Case 20:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
The British bloopers show It'll Be Alright on the Night has been running since 1977, so it certainly isn't an imitator of the 1982 NBC show - more likely the other way round. Bonalaw 08:51, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I've added in the bloopers shows that appear or have appeared on British television. Robert Mc Cann
IMHO this page is insufficiently related to grenade launchers to justify the category. Wyrm 00:15, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Eh?
- Methinks they were using more than one window with Wikipedia in it. :P 63.21.22.253 06:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
"Blooper" can also be another word for flatulence. —Bill Conrad 16:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
The line referring to Gord Martineau contains a dead link to a video. MDonfield 14:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I would like to add my 2¢ worth to the discussion on the difference between bloopers and out-takes. It is my opinion that "bloopers" and "out-takes" are entirely different entities.
A Blooper is, by nature, anything that would appear on film or other digital means that would intrinsically be funny or humorous and isn't necessarily tied to 'actors' or a 'movie', 'TV show' or any other 'organized' entertainment entity.
However, an 'Out-take' IS directly related to a misread or mistake made by an actor or TV personality which may or may not be funny or humorous.
Conclusion: A Blooper by design HAS to be funny. But an out-take may very well BE funny but can also be something different altogether. (Example: Anything that ends up on the cutting-room floor could be considered an "Out-take"; A person standing in a wrong position on stage, causing a re-take. Someone saying the wrong thing, forgetting lines...etc.)
Therefore, I would suggest that bloopers and out-takes remain two separate and individual entities on Wiki and should NOT be combined into one.
That's like saying that a car and a motorcycle should be categorized as the same thing since they both are modes of transportation and get you to the same place. It's HOW they convey you that matters, not that they MAY end up in the same place.
Ok, that was about 4¢ - but you get the point.
References
editThis article is in real need of inline citations and/or references. Badbilltucker 16:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Acceptance of out-takes
editThis sounds like it would be more appropriate on some Star Trek page. Mentioning Star Trek is fine, dedicating the entire section to it is a bit much.
Games with bloopers
editNo games with bloopers have been mentioned. I know Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones has one. Maybe there are other examples. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronnodas (talk • contribs) 17:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Intro; Pixar
edithi! the intro is quite long (I think there is even a guideline suggesting to have relative short intros) and the Pixar-section is .. well, I think it speaks for itself (the two internal links are broken and no text at all). of course I assume the broken links worked once but currently they are merged/moved/deleted with no redirect set and I don't know how to track down what exactly happened. — HTurtle (talk2me • sign) 23:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Blooper? Sort of...
editThe BBC quote about Don Quixote sitting on his ass may or may not be a blooper, depending on when it happened. The American use of "ass" for backside was not that familiar outside America until relatively recently – perhaps the late 60s or 70s. It would have been understood readily enough, because of its similarity to the British English "arse", with which it is probably connected, but the humour perceived by the American listener would not have been felt by a British listener forty or fifty years ago. The correspondence in sound of American "ass" to (r-dropping) British "arse" exactly parallels that between the American and British pronunciations of "glass". However, the a in British English "ass", meaning "donkey", represents a short vowel sound.
The converse situation is represented by the word "bum", which means "tramp, hobo" in the States, but means "buttocks" in Britain and the British Commonwealth. The use of the word in American film and TV was always amusing to our ears, and occasionally it occurred in a sentence where either meaning might conceivably have fitted. But the American would not feel this as an ambiguity he needed to avoid, and so it wouldn't really constitute a blooper, unless he was addressing a British audience and forgot, or didn't know, about the difference in usage.
I think it's still worth keeping on the page - perhaps with a short added comment? Or do we need to introduce a concept of "transdialectal blooper"? That might be classed as original research.
On the other hand, if it was a fairly recent broadcast, then it was probably deliberate—a double-entendre rather than a blooper. Koro Neil (talk) 14:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Bloopers in animation?
edit"Some films that there were bloopers in include A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Monsters, Inc.,"
Assuming this refers to so-called "mistakes" shown during the credits, how exactly do you get a blooper in an animated product? It's not a mistake when the character does exactly what it's drawn to do. Calling it a "blooper" doesn't make it one. Go4thAndDie (talk) 19:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Merge tag
editI'm not wedded to one name or the other (or a third, neutral name which doesn't give rise to a British vs. American conflict). However, we do not need two different articles about different names for the same thing. Bearcat (talk) 05:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Bloopers in books, magazines, and newspapers
editI know, we live in the age of television and film. In former times, long long ago, people read books, magazines, and newspapers. In Yagoda's About Town (p. 15) I read this: "I was attracted to the magazine (The New Yorker, 13P.) by the wit of the comments that followed the bloopers in books, magazines, and newspapers..." --13Peewit (talk) 09:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- If someone wants to add a section, feel free. For the record, Schaefer published several books of newspaper bloopers so the originator of the term endorsed its use in this context. 70.72.215.252 (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Incomplete definition
editSince blooper was coined by Kermit Schaefer, I find it odd that the original definition is not included - bloopers are not outtakes alone, but also include errors made during live broadcasts. 68.146.71.145 (talk) 15:20, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Travolta example
editThe "contemporary examples" section mostly dealt with film and TV bloopers released voluntarily. As bloopers also occur during live broadcasts, I felt it important to give a recent example. The John Travola "Adele Dazeem" incident from the 2014 Oscars, which was widely covered by notable media (the source I used was Time Magazine's website), I think is justified as an example. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 14:31, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Link Christmas tape with Blooper#United Kingdom?
editChristmas Tapes typically included Bloopers, such as the 1979 BBC Good King Memorex tape. Its a compliation of bloopers created by a department within the broadcasting company/corporation and it compiles skits and bloopers in one. Winhelper (talk) 04:52, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
"Christmas reel" listed at Redirects for discussion
editA discussion is taking place to address the redirect Christmas reel. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#Christmas reel until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
What a mess this page is
editOverly long, no references, muddled examples, meaningless examples, desperately needs sorting. 2A02:C7E:3AFE:E600:F09F:B300:3F7B:49AF (talk) 19:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)