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Dubious revert

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Hello @Andrew Davidson: you have reverted most of my edit without any explanation, as if it had been vandalism. Do you really think it was so very wrong to add

to this list? Could you please explain why. --SI 12:50, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

My apologies. I was making several changes and, when I looked at your edit, the diff highlighted the correction of the Avangaard spelling so I didn't notice the addition of those other entries too. I have restored them, ok? Andrew🐉(talk) 13:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Restructuring

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This page could use some more additions, main areas of concern would be additional background + making the list a bit more expansive. I discuss this because the page would be extensively restructured by such an edit. Anthropophoca (talk) 06:14, 14 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hype

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One of the references is Scientific American's Overhyped: The Physics and Hype of Hypersonic Weapons.[1] Would it be reasonable to mention some about this? Gah4 (talk) 12:35, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

I think that would improve the article. 104.246.222.63 (talk) 18:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ David Wright; Cameron Tracy (1 August 2021), "Overhyped: The Physics and Hype of Hypersonic Weapons", Scientific American, 325 (2): 64–71, doi:10.1038/scientificamerican0821-64


V-2 rocket

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I've removed the section for Nazi Germany's V-2 rocket, as its own Wikipedia article lists its maximum speed as 5,760 km/h, which is below mach-5, and thus not hypersonic. It was a very fast missile for its day, but it wasn't a hypersonic missile. -2003:CA:871C:DEB:AFE8:C123:13A3:CC0F (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

MBDA Aquila

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According to this change, the MBDA Aquila should be added to the missile defense section. -- Iri1388 (talk) 07:29, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Content moved from United States Army Futures Command

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I'm moving this text here from United States Army Futures Command; it doesn't belong there and may be of use here. PRRfan (talk) 13:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC) Reply

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Hypersonic
  • Hypersonic: The US Army (August 2018) has no tested countermeasure for intercepting maneuverable hypersonic weapons platforms,[1][2][3] and in this case the problem is being addressed in a joint program of the entire Department of Defense.[4] The Army is participating in a joint program with the Navy and Air Force, to develop a hypersonic glide body,[5] by mutual agreement between the respective secretaries[5][6] In order to rapidly develop this capability, a dedicated program office was established,[7][8][9][10] in behalf of the joint services.[11] A division of responsibility was agreed upon, with researchers who demonstrated hypersonic capability in 2011, teaching industrial vendors, to transfer the technology.[12] Joint programs in hypersonic are informed by Army work;[13][14] however, at the strategic level, the bulk of the hypersonic work remains at the Joint level.[15][16][6][17][12] Long Range Precision Fires (LRPF) is an Army priority, and also a DoD joint effort.[14] The Army and Navy's Common Hypersonic Glide Body (C-HGB) had a successful test of a prototype in March 2020.[18] After the US realized that a catch-up effort was needed, billions of dollars were expended by 2020.[17] A wind tunnel for testing hypersonic vehicles is being built at the Texas A&M University System' RELLIS Campus in Bryan, Texas (2019).[19] The Army's Land-based Hypersonic Missile "is intended to have a range of 1,400 miles".[11]: p.6 [12] By adding rocket propulsion to a shell or glide body, the joint effort shaved five years off the likely fielding time for hypersonic weapon systems.[20][21]
    • Countermeasures against hypersonic[22][23][24] will require sensor data fusion: both radar and infrared sensor tracking data will be required to capture the signature of a hypersonic vehicle in the atmosphere.[25][26][27][28] In 2021 the GAO counted 70 separate hypersonic projects, in both offense and defensive categories overseen by DoD's Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering, which oversees only research and development, and not DoD's Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment —DoD's acquisition and sustainment office, which do not need oversight until the hypersonic projects are ready for the acquisition phase.[29][30]
    • By 2021, the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) realized that it almost had a countermeasure to hypersonic boost-glide weapons, by using existing data on the adversary hypersonic systems which were gathered from existing US satellite and ground-based sensors.[31] MDA then fed this data into its existing systems models, and concluded that the adversary hypersonic weapon's glide phase offered the best chance for MDA to intercept it.[32] MDA next proffered a request for information (RFI) from the defense community for building interceptors (denoted the GPI —glide phase interceptor) against the glide phase of that hypersonic weapon.[32] GPIs would be guided by Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensors (HBTSS).[25][33] These GPI interceptors could first be offered to the Navy for Aegis to intercept using the C2BMC,[34][35] and later to the Army for THAAD to intercept using §IBCS.[32][36][37][35]

References

  1. ^ In, for example Waverider hypersonic weapons delivery, China has flown a Mach 5.5 vehicle for 400 seconds, at 30 km altitude, demonstrating large-angle deviations from a ballistic trajectory, as well as recovery of the payload. See
  2. ^ Stephen Carlson (14 Nov 2018) DARPA issues contract proposition for hypersonic missile defense
  3. ^ Sébastien Roblin (11 Oct. 2019) China's stealth drones and hypersonic missiles surpass—and threaten—the U.S.
  4. ^ Sydney J. Freedberg, Jr. (22 August 2018) Army Warhead Is Key To Joint Hypersonics
  5. ^ a b Paul McLeary (31 January 2020) SecNav Tells Fleet Hypersonic Competition Demands 'Sputnik Moment;' Glide Body Test Set Hypersonic Glide Body test for 2020
  6. ^ a b Jason Cutshaw (19 September 2018) Secretary of the Navy visits AMC, SMDC memorandum of agreement in June to co-develop a hypersonic vehicle
  7. ^ Sean Kimmons, Army News Service "Joint hypersonic weapon tests to start next year". www.army.mil. Retrieved 2021-12-15.
  8. ^ Clark, Colin (2019-05-24) Army Moves Out On Lasers, Hypersonics: Lt. Gen. Thurgood
  9. ^ Sydney J. Freedberg Jr. (28 Feb 2020) Army Ramps Up Funding For Laser Shield, Hypersonic Sword In FY2021 HELs funding is up 209 percent; LRHW funding is up 86 percent. RCCTO spending is $1 billion in 2021.
  10. ^ "The Army joins the Air Force, Navy in attempt to develop hypersonic weaponry". www.army.mil. Retrieved 2021-12-15.
  11. ^ a b Kelley M. Sayler, Analyst in Advanced Technology and Global Security. Congressional Research Service R45811 (11 July 2019) Hypersonic Weapons: Background and Issues for Congress Lists names for hypersonics programs
  12. ^ a b c Sydney J. Freedberg Jr. (30 August 2019) Hypersonics: Army Awards $699M To Build First Missiles For A Combat Unit prototypes—Dynetics: Common hypersonic glide body (C-HGB); Lockheed: Long range hypersonic weapon (LRHW)
  13. ^ US Army (15 August 2018) Army Futures Command aims to tap into innovative culture in Austin and beyond
  14. ^ a b "Long-range precision fires modernization a joint effort, Army tech leader says". www.army.mil. Retrieved 2021-12-15.
  15. ^ Aaron Gregg (2 August 2019) In conversations with investors, defense firms double down on hypersonic weapons As of August 2019, Lockheed reports $3.5 billion in hypersonics work, while Raytheon reports $1.6 billion; Boeing declined to give the value of its hypersonics awards.
  16. ^ Insinna, Valerie; Kahwaji, Riad (2018-03-01). "DoD Boosts Hypersonics 136 % In 2019: DARPA". Breaking Defense. Retrieved 2021-12-15.
  17. ^ a b Jon Harper (4 March 2020) JUST IN: Pentagon to Spend Billions Mass-Producing Hypersonic Weapons "Aero shells that provide thermal protection for the high-speed platforms will be a key component of the systems"
  18. ^ Sydney J. Freedberg Jr. (20 Mar 2020) Hypersonics: Army, Navy Test Common Glide Body "The U.S. Navy and U.S. Army jointly executed the launch of a common hypersonic glide body (C-HGB), which flew at hypersonic speed to a designated impact point"
  19. ^ By (2019-08-14). "The Army is getting a new $130 million hypersonics playground in Texas". Task & Purpose. Retrieved 2021-12-15.
  20. ^ "Army aligning modernization programs with other services". www.army.mil. Retrieved 2021-12-15.
  21. ^ Sydney J. Freedberg, Jr. (11 September 2018) Aiming The Army's Thousand-Mile Missiles Multi-domain Ft Sill
  22. ^ Jen Judson (20 August 2019) US Missile Defense Agency boss reveals his goals, challenges on the job Increase the discrimination of the radars and other sensors. Use Large aperture sensors. Use Space-based missile sensors. An SM-3 Block IIA missile test against ICBM is scheduled for 2020. Plan out the detection, control and engagement; the sensors, the command-and-control, the fire control, and the weapons (the kill vehicles).
  23. ^ Theresa Hitchens (9 October 2020) SDA Missile Tracking A 'Strategic Win' For L3Harris, SpaceX
  24. ^ Center for Strategic & International Studies (7 Feb 2022) Complex Air Defense: Countering the Hypersonic Missile Threat Dr. Tom Karako, Director of the CSIS Missile Defense Project; Ms. Kelley Sayler, CRS; Dr. Gillian Bussey, Director of the Joint Hypersonics Transition Office; Dr. Mark Lewis, Executive Director of NDIA's Emerging Technologies Institute; Mr. Stan Stafira, Chief Architect at the Missile Defense Agency (MDA)
  25. ^ a b John L. Dolan, Richard K. Gallagher & David L. Mann (23 April 2019) Hypersonic Weapons – A Threat to National Security Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensor (HBTSS)
  26. ^ Theresa Hitchens (24 February 2020) 2021 Budget Will Finally Fully Fund Next-Gen OPIR, Says Roper Space-Based Infrared System (SBIRS) replacement: three satellites in Geosynchronous Orbit (GEO) and two satellites in a polar orbit
  27. ^ Theresa Hitchens (17 May 2021) New SBIRS Sat Creates Bridge To Next-Gen Missile Warning SBIRS GEO 5
  28. ^ Theresa Hitchens (1 Aug 2022) Space Force plans launch this week for final SBIRS missile warning sat GEO 6
  29. ^ Theresa Hitchens (22 Mar 2021) DoD Needs To Sharpen Hypersonics Oversight: GAO
  30. ^ Nathan Strout (5 Oct 2020) SpaceX, L3 to provide hypersonic tracking satellites for Space Development Agency SDA's National Defense Space Architecture (NDSA)
  31. ^ Paul McLeary (18 Dec 2019) MDA Kickstarts New Way To Kill Hypersonic Missiles HBTSS is 'Space sensor layer'
  32. ^ a b c Jen Judson (13 Aug 2021) Missile Defense Agency dials up the speed in quest for hypersonic interceptor
  33. ^ Theresa Hitchens (19 Nov 2021) Raytheon, Northrop, Lockheed to compete for hypersonic interceptor
  34. ^ Jen Judson (20 Nov 2021) Here are the three companies selected to design hypersonic missile interceptors for MDA
  35. ^ a b Jen Judson (24 Jun 2022) Raytheon, Northrop advance in competition to develop hypersonic weapons interceptor
  36. ^ Theresa Hitchens (12 Aug 2021) Next Budget Will Limit Glide Phase Interceptor Contractors: MDA Head 2028 target date is being accelerated. FY2022 decisions on GPI/Ground-Based Interceptor, GBI replacement (the Next generation interceptor NGI) will be made by Deputy Secretary Kathleen Hicks.
  37. ^ Naval Technology (27 Jun 2022) US MDA awards contracts to continue developing Glide Phase Interceptor The GPI deliverable is a System Requirements Review—Prototype by Raytheon, Northrop-Grumman in Feb 2023

PRRfan (talk) 13:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Fattah 2

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According to the Iranian officials fattah 2 is a hypersonic cruise missile! the English Medea has miss informed the public when they reported it as another ballistic missile. 88.236.65.96 (talk) 11:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Like -- Iri1388 (talk) 19:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply


Iran

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@Jules Agathias:, you made this change and this one. I don't know Fattah (missile) is a hypersonic weapon or not, but the point is that Iranian officials insist that "Fattah-1" can maneuver at hypersonic speeds + I don't have enough information about Fattah-2. -- Iri1388 (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yemen (Houthis) Now have a hypersonic missle

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https://www.businessinsider.com/houthi-rebels-claim-fire-homemade-hypersonic-missile-first-time-iran-2024-6 108.48.90.132 (talk) 18:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

No, the Houthi's *claim* to have a hypersonic missile. What they have, is a missile that by all accounts appears to be a modified Fatteh, with no actual indication that it's hypersonic capable. Per that link you gave: Given the footage published by the Houthis, it is unlikely that the "Hatem-2" possesses that kind of advanced capability. "Hypersonic in this case is clearly a buzzword, trying to create hype," said Schiller. The newly announced munition is likely similar to the Fattah anti-ship missiles already fired by the Houthis several times, Schiller said. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 19:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Russian propaganda

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This article was created in 2019. After that period, it was not edited at all for years. Until February 2022. Just before Russia invaded Ukraine. It seems the entire term 'hypersonic weapons' is a Russian propaganda invention. About a weapon that only Russia possess and we in the west should be very scared about. This article seems to be completely uncritical and unaware of this propaganda angle to this entire term. I am actually going to check now if the IP addresses of the first edits are Russian. If they were made by Russian intel, they probably spoofed their IPs, but it will be fun to check. For anyone that actually edits wikipedia, there should be a section about how Russia introduced this term. And how Russian's fabled 'hypersonic' weapons are not actually what they told us they are. --86.84.200.125 (talk) 09:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is not helpful, nor accurate. If you believe the term "hypersonic weapons" is a Russian propaganda invention, you're wildly misinformed; if you believe that "only Russia possesses" them, you're wildly misinformed; if you believe that you can identify "Russian intel" by checking the IP addresses of anonymous editors on this page, you're also wildly misinformed. Please stop; this article is not a battleground for your fringe conspiracies. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 20:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I started this article and am not Russian. The primary source used was a primer produced by the Atlantic Council in 2020. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
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